Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[DannyB4]

Logan Morris -> Jordon Croft (Croft vastly superior athlete)
Ty Gallop -> Aaron Naughton (Draw both very athletic)
Oscar McInerny -> Sam Darcy ( Sam Darcy vastly superior athlete)

No 3 talls isn't an issue

We'll wait and see. I maintain that a club is still yet to win a flag with 3 proper Key Forwards. Just because a system has 3 short blokes as "Key Position" doesnt mean they are true KPF.

 

[Foxman98]

Naughton is taller the Gallop. Croft is of a similar height to McInerney but more mobile. And Darcy and Morris are as far apart as 2 "Key Position" players can get.

Is Joel Freijah a Key Forward if he stands in the forward line?

Also once again when was the last time a team won a flag with 3 pure KPF? (2 of whom are 200cm+)


The fact that you think Logan Morris is in anyway equivalent to Sam Darcy is hilarious.

Naughton is 1-2cm taller

Croft is similar height to McInerney and more athletic then the smaller Morris correct (hint one of the 2 finished top 4 in the 2km time trial in their draft year)

Where did I compare Darcy to Morris quite clear reading is a struggle Darcy is comparable to McInerney

 

[Golden_6]

Naughton is taller the Gallop. Croft is of a similar height to McInerney but more mobile. And Darcy and Morris are as far apart as 2 "Key Position" players can get.

Is Joel Freijah a Key Forward if he stands in the forward line?

Also once again when was the last time a team won a flag with 3 pure KPF? (2 of whom are 200cm+)


The fact that you think Logan Morris is in anyway equivalent to Sam Darcy is hilarious.

You are exposing your complete lack of football knowledge with your arguments.

Your logic is that we aren't going to contend because Darcy is tall and not 191cm like Logan Morris. Croft is more athletic and quicker that Morris & Gallop regardless.

 

[Foxman98]

We'll wait and see. I maintain that a club is still yet to win a flag with 3 proper Key Forwards. Just because a system has 3 short blokes as "Key Position" doesnt mean they are true KPF.

Brisbane in 2024 then Daniher Hipwood Morris

 

[Cudi]

Why aren’t we having a go at Weitering? I know that most of what we hear is what they want us to hear but I have not heard about any connection to him.

He would be on very good money (1 million) and contracted for 5 more years. No reason for Blues to do the deal and he doesn't seem disgruntled. He turned down 1.5 mill a year last year by St Kilda.

We targeted Wilke because he was getting majorly underpaid, that's not the case with Weitering.

 

[MaxiBont]

We'll wait and see. I maintain that a club is still yet to win a flag with 3 proper Key Forwards. Just because a system has 3 short blokes as "Key Position" doesnt mean they are true KPF.

Cameron, Hawkins and Rohan? Rohan was shorter but still played as a key forward.

 

[Foxman98]

Cameron, Hawkins and Rohan? Rohan was shorter but still played as a key forward.

If they're smaller then a midfielder it doesn't count so anyone shorter then 198cm midfielder Connor Nash isn't a KPF

 

[TiAn_]

Brisbane in 2024 then Daniher Hipwood Morris

Brisbane have been thereabouts for years using combinations of Daniher, Hipwood, Morris, McInerney, McStay, Gunston, Fort, etc, that often include three KPFs and a ruck.

 

[Foxman98]

Brisbane have been thereabouts for years using combinations of Daniher, Hipwood, Morris, McInerney, McStay, Gunston, Fort, etc, that often include three KPFs and a ruck.

Yep not sure what bee he has in his bonnet but we have 3 talls who are more athletic then the back to back premiers certainly not what is holding us back now

 

[El Rancho]

Yep not sure what bee he has in his bonnet but we have 3 talls who are more athletic then the back to back premiers certainly not what is holding us back now

Slightly off topic, but Foxman, your new profile pic/video of sniff getting owned is inspired

 

[DannyB4]

Yep not sure what bee he has in his bonnet but we have 3 talls who are more athletic then the back to back premiers certainly not what is holding us back now

Cool lets keep running the same setup and see why it isnt getting us anywhere.

No wonder this board blows up every year at round 23 wondering why we've failed yet again. Not flexible to change.

My whole point was to move one of them back to shore up both sides of the ground but apparently that is the stupidest idea anyone has ever come up with.

 

[Foxman98]

Cool lets keep running the same setup and see why it isnt getting us anywhere.

No wonder this board blows up every year at round 23 wondering why we've failed yet again. Not flexible to change.

My whole point was to move one of them back to shore up both sides of the ground but apparently that is the stupidest idea anyone has ever come up with.

Our tall forward set up has never been an issue,

We moved Lobb back last year

Naughton and Darcy averaged 2.6 and 2.8 goals a game why would you move them back?

Croft won't help our backline issues as he has a smaller build then what we already have,

You've kept saying 3 talls will never work whilst continually being proved wrong and continually doubling down

 

[Mojorisin]

Is our offer as good as others or chance North offering too good a deal?

Our offers are similar, if he leaves i cant see it being anywhere other then the dogs. He wants to play defence not wing or small forward, we've been heavily into him for more the 6 months were as others club interest has come later and is more around his flexibility.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Our tall forward set up has never been an issue,

We moved Lobb back last year

Naughton and Darcy averaged 2.6 and 2.8 goals a game why would you move them back?

Croft won't help our backline issues as he has a smaller build then what we already have,

You've kept saying 3 talls will never work whilst continually being proved wrong and continually doubling down

Three talls worked in 2024 where we still kicked loads of goals, though poor accuracy. And conceded some of the least points in the league with the same defenders we have now minus Jones. So it shows three tall forwards can work, and that our defensive issues are just as much about structure, as it is with personnel.

 

[Thunderoad]

Gold Coast also hold their BnF tonight so expect an official announcement tomorrow from Budarick.

Budarick was the only trade target that Michael Regan specifically named.

Only spoke generally about anyone else.

Found that interesting.

 

[X_box_X]

So not only can we not attract anyone to our club, but now Sanders is asking to be traded to a team that doesn't even exist yet? Something stinks at Whitten Oval.

Let's be real for a second. Please.

If Sanders requests a trade to Tasmania, it isn't a reflection on the club. If he requests a trade to a team outside of Tasmania, then your point is valid.

 

[DannyB4]

Our tall forward set up has never been an issue,

We moved Lobb back last year

Naughton and Darcy averaged 2.6 and 2.8 goals a game why would you move them back?

Croft won't help our backline issues as he has a smaller build then what we already have,

You've kept saying 3 talls will never work whilst continually being proved wrong and continually doubling down

Yep Naughton and Darcy averaged that in a 2 tall fwd setup.

How well did Naughton and Darcy go against a Top 8 team with Croft in the side?

Like I said it's whatever it's fine. This board is inflexible to change but just likes to complain in August every year when we've failed. It's cool. Bet you were one of the ones that got mad that we didn't overpay to get a cooked JSOS either.

 

[Mojorisin]

Budarick was the only trade target that Michael Regan specifically named.

Only spoke generally about anyone else.

Found that interesting.

What was this on? Generally if a list manager brings up a name unprompted it is as good as done.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Budarick was the only trade target that Michael Regan specifically named.

Only spoke generally about anyone else.

Found that interesting.

He only spoke about Budarick because it was been reported that we were interested in him

 

[Bulldogs85]

What was this on? Generally if a list manager brings up a name unprompted it is as good as done.

I posted the podcast you will find it page 76

 

[Foxman98]

Yep Naughton and Darcy averaged that in a 2 tall fwd setup.

How well did Naughton and Darcy go against a Top 8 team with Croft in the side?

Like I said it's whatever it's fine. This board is inflexible to change but just likes to complain in August every year when we've failed. It's cool. Bet you were one of the ones that got mad that we didn't overpay to get a cooked JSOS either.

So your basis is off 1 game sample size?

Not at all Danny I was actually one of the ones saying 600-650k was an over pay,

Our issues are structure not personnel which I have also been highlighting this whole time our high line worked well against shit teams and was cut open against the good ones

 

[Mojorisin]

Yep Naughton and Darcy averaged that in a 2 tall fwd setup.

How well did Naughton and Darcy go against a Top 8 team with Croft in the side?

Like I said it's whatever it's fine. This board is inflexible to change but just likes to complain in August every year when we've failed. It's cool. Bet you were one of the ones that got mad that we didn't overpay to get a cooked JSOS either.

The three talls isn’t our issue, especially considering there are only usually two on the field at any given time. The issue is the players at their feet. Smalls with genuine forward craft and defensive pressure are nearly as much a need as a key defender.

 

[CDBulldog]

I think people underestimate how much talent is on the dees list. They've drafted really well. Just need a refresher in the game plan and natural growth in some of younger players and they should be competitive again even from next season.

Disagree. They are a few years off. Gawn, petracca, viney, May, Lever and Oliver were their core and they are approaching the cliff, have dropped off or have looked for trades (albeit Gawn is still playing well). I think they enter rebuild territory and it will take them a few years to get back up and competitive again. They are one Gawn injury away from falling away at the moment.

 

[Thunderoad]

What was this on? Generally if a list manager brings up a name unprompted it is as good as done.

Regan was on the Danny Boyd podcast released today.

It was a good listen. Impressive individual.

 

[Mojorisin]

Logan Morris and Ty Gallop are shorter than some of MIDFIELDERS let alone our 200cm+ key forwards. Terrible comparison.

Logan Morris is 191cm btw. The same height as Joel Freijah.

The reason Morris wasn't picked in the first round was due to concerns about his athleticism or lack of transferring to AFL level. Not all 191cm players are created equally. It's like comparing Mason Cox and Darcy because they're similar hight when Cox can't even touch his toes.