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Butters is not leaving Port Adelaide this season so our first rounder would most likely be used in the draftSurely we’re kissing Butters goodbye if that’s what we’re paying for Butts?
Handing a 1st to the Crows doesn’t leave a lot for Butters.
Cal Twomey was categoric again this morning in shutting down any chance of a Butters move this year.
Because Merrett and his management team have pushed the trade much harder and blown things up through the media which Wilkie was unwilling to do.There's one thing that frustrates the hell out of me.
Merrett is contracted but all assume 'that'll just get done' to the Hawks.
So why can't we get a contracted Butts or Butters or Wilkie?
Ours always fall through. Need to go harder and be ruthless. Get them to do a Merrett where it's impossible to go back.
Give up a first for Butts and if that doesn't happen throw that and everything else at Butters.
Be bold and aggressive and don't let the other club beat us.
Cal Twomey was categoric again this morning in shutting down any chance of a Butters move this year.
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Crows may be more willing to do a Butts deal if Petracca nominates them.If there’s no chance of Butters this year, I would feel comfortable offering our first for Butts.
Why?
Lobb destroyed Cameron last year when we had proper structure
Crows may be more willing to do a Butts deal if Petracca nominates them.
Was just thinking is there a possible scenario this year that sees us trade out of the first round if Butters remains off the table and we can’t land a KPD?If we are confident in getting Butters as a FA next year then it actually makes sense for us to move on out 2026 1st. It effectively lessens the chance that Port match our bid to force a trade as we won't have a whole lot to send back above what they'd get as FA compo.
If that is the case id do something like
2026 1st amd 3rd for Butts and 2026 2nd
Crows may be more willing to do a Butts deal if Petracca nominates them.
There's next to no chance that Port don't force a trade next year regardless of what we hold. Butters is worth more than whatever first round pick they'd get through FA compo. That's also on the assumption he actually comes to us, which would be unprecedented for a player of his quality.If we are confident in getting Butters as a FA next year then it actually makes sense for us to move on out 2026 1st. It effectively lessens the chance that Port match our bid to force a trade as we won't have a whole lot to send back above what they'd get as FA compo.
If that is the case id do something like
2026 1st amd 3rd for Butts and 2026 2nd
Absolutely not. Farrow or Dovaston will be there at our first, both would likely play round one next year and both fill an area of need.As someone who knows this draft way more than me, would you be comfortable trading out from our position for someone of Butt’s calibre?
We can't really afford to trade our first out now and there is no benefit in doing so a year ahead. We don't know where it'll land and where our academy kids will rise to. Most importantly as others have said Butters will be a restricted free agent next year and unless Port absolutely implode they will match any bid forcing a trade.Was just thinking is there a possible scenario this year that sees us trade out of the first round if Butters remains off the table and we can’t land a KPD?
Small forward Small Defender Half Back are just as big a weakness as Full Back and those 2 can fill 2 of those voidsAbsolutely not. Farrow or Dovaston will be there at our first, both would likely play round one next year and both fill an area of need.
We can't really afford to trade our first out now and there is no benefit in doing so a year ahead. We don't know where it'll land and where our academy kids will rise to. Most importantly as others have said Butters will be a restricted free agent next year and unless Port absolutely implode they will match any bid forcing a trade.
Butts is the only one not either VC or leadership groupVery strange that a decent key defender from a club with no real shot at a flag can look at a team with a superstar midfield and a forwardline with arguably the best young KPF in Darcy and 60 goal KPF in Naughton and not demand a trade, realising that their inclusion to our backline could be the key to unlocking a top 4 berth/shot at a flag.
Not just talking about Wilkie, but the likes of Weitering, Butts (competition for a spot in the 22), Vlastuin, etc etc.
Surely a decent contracted key defender from a bottom 10 side can be shaken out of a team.
Very strange that a decent key defender from a club with no real shot at a flag can look at a team with a superstar midfield and a forwardline with arguably the best young KPF in Darcy and 60 goal KPF in Naughton and not demand a trade, realising that their inclusion to our backline could be the key to unlocking a top 4 berth/shot at a flag.
Not just talking about Wilkie, but the likes of Weitering, Butts (competition for a spot in the 22), Vlastuin, etc etc.
Surely a decent contracted key defender from a bottom 10 side can be shaken out of a team.
I don't blame Dunks with what was going on with Hunter and Baz typesNot all players are shit blokes like Bailey Smith and Josh Dunkley. Some are in it for the love of their club and teammates over individual success and acknowledgment.
Been hoping for him for a while will be perfect Doc replacementGold Coast also hold their BnF tonight so expect an official announcement tomorrow from Budarick.
Jamarra attending?Gold Coast also hold their BnF tonight so expect an official announcement tomorrow from Budarick.
Mid year it was looking like he'd cost us next to nothing but unfortunately his stocks increased rapidly.Been hoping for him for a while will be perfect Doc replacement
I am hopeful it will just be an F3 despite playing him it was out of position and he is OOCMid year it was looking like he'd cost us next to nothing but unfortunately his stocks increased rapidly.