List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

[Keys]

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[TerryFilk]

By multi year deal for Deven Robertson

2

Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

, that better mean 2 years, because there’s no way we’ve offered him 3+… is there?

 

[TY24]

and is one more knock away from being medically retired

Sure, if he wasn’t one head knock from retirement I’d agree with you

Is there any actual evidence to support this or is it just standard BigFooty dribble?

 

[TheBudgies]

By multi year deal for Deven Robertson, that better mean 2 years, because there’s no way we’ve offered him 3+… is there?

3 would be fine.

 

[illegaleagle]

Should only offer Brisbane a pick in 50s for guy that only averages 10 to 12 disposals a game and likely to retire early from concussions

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Come on then enlighten us

Start here and also look into how they baseline performance outside of game day to compare their results.

It’s hardly “hey mate how’s the head” stuff.

The tests for concussion are interesting . You should Google SCAT5 SPORT CONCUSSION ASSESSMENT TOOL 5TH EDITION how they do it considering they can only really diagnose brain trauma physically until after you are dead

 

[twce13]

3 would be fine.

Completely unnecessary tho given where he is at in his career. Can’t be so careless with giving out longer contracts.

 

[boondy]

Do you know how they test for concussion?

They ask you a bunch of questions about how you are feeling

If I had 5 and 1/2 million on the line I would fake that shit to look fine

Where are we playing , who kicked the last scote , who did we play last week , name the 12 months backwards . Repeat this random list i say to you .
Heaps of testing done like this and days later , weeks later etc . Aside from dizziness , vomiting , headaches . Some you can fake but some you cant and its compared to earler cognitive results before a season starts

 

[TheBudgies]

Is there any actual evidence to support this or is it just standard BigFooty dribble?

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Jeremy McGovern, Brad Sheppard, Daniel Venables and Luke Edwards.

 

[jdisc]

Dev to sign on a 3 year deal then develop a lower leg injury that will keep him perpetually 5-6 weeks off being fit

 

[neng]

So next year we go in with something like, as it currently stands:

B: Hough Edwards Ginbey
HB: Baker Young Starcevich
C: Maric HReid McCarthy
HF: Cripps Shanahan Graham
FF: Brockman Waterman Owies
R: Flynn Yeo Hewett
Int: Duggan Allan Hall Robertson Kelly BWilliams

Draftees not included. Assuming all fit. Obviously some notable absentees.

We’ll win games.

Edit: We only have one Hewett.

 

[eaglevision]

He’s had one offseason and brought in our B+F and next captain (albeit with an overpay, yes) and also has delivered a draft most of us would say is a huge building block of our next core.

I’m not saying he’s a gun but do we need to reassess his tenure 300 times a day, every day of the year?

Give him a second offseason for a start.

His job is literally to balance and manage the list by bringing in players as cheaply as possible and selling players for the highest price possible.

Baker wanted to come regardless, it was Clarke’s job to pay as little as possible or even a fair price. Especially with his Richmond contacts.

I haven’t reassessed his ability since he publicly blurted out what he was prepared to pay for Baker but nothing since that moment has changed to make me think he’s even the 17th best list manager in the competition.

I will mercifully await Keys’ retrospective trade thread to discuss his failures, there will be more than enough prospective ones to discuss here.

 

[TheBudgies]

Completely unnecessary tho given where he is at in his career. Can’t be so careless with giving out longer contracts.

He's a best 23 midfielder for atleast the next 2 years. Doubt that changes year 3 unless we have an incredible resurgence. Even then he's good for the WAFL. 3 is fine.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Surely if we hand over the PP, we should bid on Annable to make it even.

 

[bindi27]

Is there any actual evidence to support this or is it just standard BigFooty dribble?

He was concussed mid-2024, pre-season 2025 and then in Round 1 2025.

Brisbane gave him 3 months off just to be cautious. He could have come back earlier but we decided to be conservative - at that point we had Noah Answerth playing his role anyway.

He was hit in the Grand Final but did not get concussed. He passed the HIA and was completely fine after the match.

His concussion history isn’t great, but it’s also nowhere near as bad as many in the media are making it out to be. It is a concern but it’s not anywhere near as bad as somebody like Paddy McCartin, for example.

Also - to the person who keeps quoting his disposal numbers… he’s the best mid-size lockdown defender in the competition. Look at Dangerfield’s numbers on the weekend and that will show you his impact.

 

[Proeagle]

Would love to know what we’re thinking with Starcevich, given that we have a very similar player in Hough already.

Midfield?
Hough to the midfield?
McCarthy to the midfield?
Baker to the forward line?

Why retain Tom Cole?

Its not good for Cole and Maric's future in the backline. And wtf do we do with Duggan. I mean I know what i would do with him but club loves Duggan.


Our backline looks pretty good next year except the key backs are inexperienced.

Ginbey - H Edwards - Hough
Starcevich/Baker - Young - Yeo/McCarthy


And rotate McCarthy, Yeo and Baker into the middle occasionally. Wont be able to fit them all in the backline though.

Might be a spot on the bench perhaps for one of Cole/Maric but not good signs for even that.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Is there any actual evidence to support this or is it just standard BigFooty dribble?

I’m 100% team Starcevich but his history is a concern. Maybe it’s a symptom of him putting his head in the trough meaning he’s a tough bugger we’d be lucky to have, but he has had some serious gaps in availability due to head knocks and some of them have been pretty light looking. Impossible to tell with concussions but anyone not concerned about his history is kidding themselves.

But it’s also that the people acting like he’s not a genuinely very good footballer are also kidding themselves, so it’s a risk the club have obviously deemed worth taking, and now we all hope for the best.

 

[boondy]

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Jeremy McGovern, Brad Sheppard, Daniel Venables and Luke Edwards.

Any player is 1 head knock away from retiring .

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Is this the first year teams can trade picks two years in advance?

 

[illegaleagle]

Surely we don't give them either

Pick 34 is fair for a guy with concussion issues and only averages around 10 disposals a game

 

[TY24]

His concussion history isn’t great, but it’s also nowhere near as bad as the media are making it out to be

I tend to agree.

Impossible to tell with concussions but anyone not concerned about his history is kidding themselves.

I think it's important to be aware of the risk but the talk of him being 'one head knock from retirement' is just pure hyperbole.

As has been mentioned above, every player can be considered 'one knock from retirement'.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Is this the first year teams can trade picks two years in advance?

Yes.

 

[bindi27]

Pick 34 is fair for a guy with concussion issues and only averages around 10 disposals a gem

His opponent on the weekend (Dangerfield) had 10 disposals, zero clearances and zero impact.

Pick 34 is probably fair given the concussion history. But you shouldn’t be judging one of the best mid-size lockdown defenders in the competition on their disposal count. He’s an absolute gun of a player.

 

[amazingjoshy]

His opponent on the weekend (Dangerfield) had 10 disposals, zero clearances and zero impact.

Pick 34 is probably fair, btw. But you shouldn’t be judging one of the best mid-size lockdown defenders in the competition on their disposal count.

100%

Post almost needs to be pinned to the top of the page

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Brisbane playing the we don't lodge allen paperwork until you hand over your PP for starcivich

We just do the old hawks trick and trade away the pick you want

No problem Brisbane, you just earned yourself a nice early bid on Annable.

Haha, playing catch up and just read we're offering our handout pick for Starcevich.

 

[Boohemian]

His opponent on the weekend (Dangerfield) had 10 disposals, zero clearances and zero impact.

Pick 34 is probably fair given the concussion history. But you shouldn’t be judging one of the best mid-size lockdown defenders in the competition on their disposal count. He’s an absolute gun of a player.

Nobody is questioning his ability, just the history and ensuring that whatever compensation we send Brisbane's way is reasonable in light of the risk we'd be taking on.

For those referencing Dan Venables as an example of anyone being one head knock away from retirement - that collision was horrific. I was there at the game when it happened, right in front of me. That kind of thing doesn't happen regularly. We're worried about those innocuous incidents, the slight knocks that are far more profound as a result of the accumulation of other instances.