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As also someone who wants him, my read is completely different. Both parties are keen for the break-up and any public reasoning is rubbish. Pick 11 is actually overs going off the North board, we'd get some good salary (hes overpaid) chucked in and a pick back
At the cost of 13 and some salary being paid (maybe a small upgrade in our favour for one of our other picks), I think he would be a good addition.

I could see him and Erasmus rotating on one wing from the midfield. So rather than 100% wing like he was last season it is more like 50%. Essentially replacing JOM who moves to Peel and comes in as half forward/Wing/mid injury replacement.
 
Spitballing here… Our picks 11 and 29 for Simpkin and North’s pick 20 (on the basis they pay a portion of his salary) then on trade pick 20 for Mcvee and Melbourne’s third rounder. Use that third rounder to trade for Serong. We go to the draft with just our third and change which would hopefully get us the younger Curtin or a Pickett / Kickett forward. Would really lift our floor and add an extra quality inside / outside mid in Simpkin. It’s your bottom 6 players that often decide games. I like the idea of spending low to mid range capital to get mid range players (eg Mcvee) to push out the bottom 6 and lift our floor. Trading to lift your ceiling (I.e Petracca, Merret etc) is bloody expensive !!!
I feel like we are overpaying in all three of those hypotheticals. I reckon 11 for Simpkin and F4, our current 2nd for McVee and our 3rd for Serong. Means we use Richmond's 3rd this year (hopefully Pickett or Rodriguez slide) and then pick up Whan. Alternatively F1 for Simpkin would be fine by me. I am in the camp that Robinson will slide to mid/late first round.

Still, I doubt it happens as we haven't been seriously linked yet and Walls seems to be keen on someone in this draft.
 

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You thinking #11 for Simpkin is quite amusing. Don't worry, your mindset was spot on lad

You think the captain of a club with 4 years left on decent dollars is going to come here for mates rates?

You probably think Humphries will go to Pies for a F2. Great mindset at the Pies!

Wish Freo could lure a Simpkin over with 4 years left and offer North O’Driscoll and a swap of 4ths.
 
I think we would keep Serong! Plenty to go before him, only Jai wants senior game time now.

If he could hold on I reckon his senior game time would increase in 2026 and 2027.

Seems down to Sydney or Freo for Jai. The Fox article indicates Hawks won’t stand in his way. Looks most likely that a trade for primary list spot will be required. A later pick - prob one we receive from either Brodie or Reidy would get the job done.

So no he won’t be at Hawthorn next year.
 
You think the captain of a club with 4 years left on decent dollars is going to come here for mates rates?

You probably think Humphries will go to Pies for a F2. Great mindset at the Pies!

Wish Freo could lure a Simpkin over with 4 years left and offer North O’Driscoll and a swap of 4ths.
Commonsense would suggest there's a reason North aren't playing him in his natural position and why he doesn't have many suitors.

As for the rest of your post, truly embarrassing.

Popping you on ignore, so don't bother replying kid
 
I feel like we are overpaying in all three of those hypotheticals. I reckon 11 for Simpkin and F4, our current 2nd for McVee and our 3rd for Serong. Means we use Richmond's 3rd this year (hopefully Pickett or Rodriguez slide) and then pick up Whan. Alternatively F1 for Simpkin would be fine by me. I am in the camp that Robinson will slide to mid/late first round.

Still, I doubt it happens as we haven't been seriously linked yet and Walls seems to be keen on someone in this draft.
Fair call, I’m just going by past history of feeling slightly shafted on most trades at the time (then hopefully happy in retrospect!)
 
Mike91 - ‘lad’ ‘kid’

What a moron.

Common sense would tell you Pies shouldn’t talk to Humphries without the means to get a deal done, yet you call that brilliant mindset.

You seem the type to walk into the shops without money in your pocket and just stare at all the gadgets.

Where I’m from, I call that dumb as dog turd.
 

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Marshall out for Sam De Koning and a pick?

Then if the Dogs want to pay insane overs for Wilkie?

I don’t mind it tbh
Its a pretty brilliant off season for Saints assuming the cap space they have makes overpaying TDK and Silvagni a non-factor.

The only one I think is stupid is Liam Ryan
 
There'll.be no DFA or SSP for him he'll need to be traded for and if JL has gone over to spruik him his role I think the club value him higher than most think.
Snuff/ Anybody

What would it take in trade value to get Jai Serong ?

Is McVee , Simpkin and J.Serong fantasy land or is there a way with the hand that we have

I think we need a winger desperately ( Simpkin or Serong ) , Sharp can stay at Peel , he's not B22
Also like the idea of JS to replace Ryan in a couple of years
 

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#mindset

At the Pies we over pay for guys and then force them out and pay their salary to other clubs.

We sell dreams to blokes with 3 years left on a contract, holding a solid hand of picks 37, 56, 68 and 74.

We’re all about fooling blokes with an IQ less than 80.
(Puts mod hat on) Probably enough of getting personal even though Mike has a thicker skin than most
 
Every time I check Liam Ryan's stats I'm shocked that his best ever season is 30 goals.
 
Snuff/ Anybody

What would it take in trade value to get Jai Serong ?

Is McVee , Simpkin and J.Serong fantasy land or is there a way with the hand that we have

I think we need a winger desperately ( Simpkin or Serong ) , Sharp can stay at Peel , he's not B22
Also like the idea of JS to replace Ryan in a couple of years
I'd be surprised if it costs more than a third round pick. Hawks don't really have a leg to stand on
 
Snuff/ Anybody

What would it take in trade value to get Jai Serong ?

Is McVee , Simpkin and J.Serong fantasy land or is there a way with the hand that we have

I think we need a winger desperately ( Simpkin or Serong ) , Sharp can stay at Peel , he's not B22
Also like the idea of JS to replace Ryan in a couple of years
Can easily get all 3 just between our first three picks with some change
 
We have a list currently of 38 players. Two will go in Reidy and Brodie, so 36. We can have up to 44. We can find room in the squad for the likes of Serong, Simpkin and McVee. We have guys who are in the 35th to 44th player on our list - we can move them around or on to others with it being an improvement to our squad.

If we can afford the salary cap, since most of these not list cloggers, more developing players, aren't on big money.

There are the players out of contract end of next season:

Sturt, O'Meara, Davies, Voss, McDonald, Nicholls, O'Driscoll, Murphy, Wagner, Carr, Switkowski, Banfield, Riddle, Dudley, Johnson.

I expect Voss, Nicholls, O'Driscoll, Wagner, Switkowski and Johnson to be extended.
 

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