Traded Brandon Starcevich - traded to West Coast as part of a 3-way trade with Brisbane and Fremantle

[leighmo]

Unlikely to be true as well. Brisbane need points, not picks. They also get nothing if Starcevich or Robertson leave.

Trying to get WC to move up on their offer of 23. I don’t see a reason for us to budge though.

 

[Barrybran]

Trying to get WC to move up on their offer of 23. I don’t see a reason for us to budge though.

23 is already way too high given the circumstances

 

[Hollow Knight]

Not a convenient development for those sticking to the tinfoil belief that the AFL generated the priority pick specifically for it to be given to Brisbane.

 

[txbyhull]

so much for good faith negotiation lol

 

[Mop]

Not a convenient development for those sticking to the tinfoil belief that the AFL generated the priority pick specifically for Brisbane.

I have no real feelings on the above. Wouldn’t have surprised me, but as it wasn’t tied Brisbane are free to try their hand.

Keeps it interesting at least

 

[amazingjoshy]

I have no real feelings on the above. Wouldn’t have surprised me, but as it wasn’t tied Brisbane are free to try their hand.

Keeps it interesting at least

The PP not having to be traded makes it at least look like a negotiation now I guess

Given the dates these things need to be sorted by, WC literally just need to sit on their hands and see what happens

 

[Hollow Knight]

so much for good faith negotiation lol

Ultimately the media aren’t in the room. They’re speculating to juice any many clicks out of the situation while they can.

 

[Mop]

The PP not having to be traded makes it at least look like a negotiation now I guess

Given the dates these things need to be sorted by, WC literally just need to sit on their hands and see what happens

Let’s say Brisbane decide yep we actually only want to pay band 2 money for Oscar Allen. We then match. How does that actually benefit Brisbane?
They’ve lost all leverage for any comp for Starcevich, they have to pay for a forward - be it OA or someone else with picks they didn’t need to.

I understand trying to get maximum value and the art of a deal, but I’d be really annoyed if I was team WC here and the reported circumstances are genuine

Lucky I’m not a negotiator I suppose.

 

[M Malice]

Draft picks outside the top 10-15 are grossly overrated IMO... Ah Chee and Starcevich are much better value than a speculative pick in the 20s.

Why would the Eagles list management be offering (as reported) around 900K per season x 5/6 years if they didn't think he was worth a relatively good pick for us? Possible concussion does not come into it when the Eagles are offering that length of tenure.

 

[txbyhull]

Draft picks outside the top 10-15 are grossly overrated IMO...

Probably not for a rebuilding club pre-Tas

Ah Chee and Starcevich are much better value than a speculative pick in the 20s.

Would say it’s about right value considering contract status, concussion issues, and position for Starc

Why would the Eagles list management

Who suck at their jobs

be offering (as reported) around 900K per season x 5/6 years

4+2 (or +1/+1) on games based triggers, vague protection against concussion issues but not all guaranteed money.

f they didn't think he was worth a relatively good pick for us?

A relatively good pick for you is a late first early second given it’ll just be chewed up by Annable or moved into next year for someone desperate enough to trade in.

Possible concussion does not come into it when the Eagles are offering that length of tenure.

Yes it does

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Brisbane are trying to fleece WC by the sound of it.

BRISBANE will push to land West Coast's pick No.16 in a trade for Brandon Starcevich as negotiations trickle on between the clubs.

Lol, pick #23 is ample.

 

[txbyhull]

Lol, pick #23 is ample.

wouldn’t even say that. honestly generous given the concussion issues

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

wouldn’t even say that. honestly generous given the concussion issues

They are a concern no doubt.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Let’s say Brisbane decide yep we actually only want to pay band 2 money for Oscar Allen. We then match. How does that actually benefit Brisbane?
They’ve lost all leverage for any comp for Starcevich, they have to pay for a forward - be it OA or someone else with picks they didn’t need to.

I understand trying to get maximum value and the art of a deal, but I’d be really annoyed if I was team WC here and the reported circumstances are genuine

Lucky I’m not a negotiator I suppose.

Agreed, they have to try I guess but the PP should be more than enough to get it done, and I suspect it will be in the end.

Looking at it just logically, if they offer Oscar Band 2, WC match and take Starcevich as an FA. They'll have to manufacture a trade for Oscar (or walk away I guess) and get nothing for Starcevich because of Draper

We can still work a trade with GC and take picks 1 and 7 to the draft. Still get Starcevich and either keep Oscar or get whatever Brissy want to trade for him

Our worst case feels a much better scenario than theirs but we'll see i guess

 

[bzparkes]

Draft picks outside the top 10-15 are grossly overrated IMO... Ah Chee and Starcevich are much better value than a speculative pick in the 20s.

Why would the Eagles list management be offering (as reported) around 900K per season x 5/6 years if they didn't think he was worth a relatively good pick for us? Possible concussion does not come into it when the Eagles are offering that length of tenure.

Umm, you honestly think Lions want the pick to get a player?

 

[M Malice]

Umm, you honestly think Lions want the pick to get a player?

No.

They want as high a pick as possible to match the bid for the top rated mid in the draft, and to have points left over for possible later bids for another 1 or 2 potential bids later in the draft.

 

[Elixuh]

Mmm pick 16.

 

[txbyhull]

No.

They want as high a pick as possible to match the bid for the top rated mid in the draft, and to have points left over for possible later bids for another 1 or 2 potential bids later in the draft.

Really? Bc every second bris fan has been saying they’ve already got all the points in the world to bid on Annable so there’s no leverage for west coast

 

[M Malice]

Really? Bc every second bris fan has been saying they’ve already got all the points in the world to bid on Annable so there’s no leverage for west coast

Points are like coitus, you can never have enough.

 

[Senor M]

Jack Martin and Tim Membrey can both attest to the PSD option as being not a myth. Although I agree that it’s unlikely to get that far, especially with WC’s draft hand this season. I would still rather WC offer some combination of later picks given 19 is likely to be eaten up by matching a bid on Annable.

Tim Membrey never went the PSD route mate.

 

[Pns_blister]

If West Coast aren’t careful we’ll take Allen and pick 2.

 

[leighmo]

Tim Membrey never went the PSD route mate.

Fair enough, still moved clubs without any trade going through. Point on Hack Martin stands.

 

[bzparkes]

No.

They want as high a pick as possible to match the bid for the top rated mid in the draft, and to have points left over for possible later bids for another 1 or 2 potential bids later in the draft.

Great and which club can save you points more than anyone?

 

[Mop]

What does this shit really add to this thread?
Absolutely nothing.

 

[Mop]

Points are like coitus, you can never have enough.

Thanks mate MJ’s in my head