Roast David Walls -draft master but trade flop

[rgauci]

Clark, Jackson and Bolts were good.
The Schultz trade was great.

We've got a list that's in great shape.

Do Brisbane become happy after back to back flags and facilitate easy trades with the wooden spooners ?

Every opportunity needs to be taken.

 

[Swiggy]

No idea how people still think the Bolton trade was good.

His year was very disappointing, he would be close to our top paid player and can't even make the top 10 of the BnF.

He kicks close to 1 in 3 goals he attempts. Can't hit 30m easy passes to forwards.

Because got reid too?

 

[s_wd6]

Yes. We had Reid as our first choice.

That’s what they want you to think. We’ll never know

 

[jakefooty23]

Just need to take the negotiations off him and let him focus on the draft and talent ID.

Got to take the good with the bad unfortunately, if we don't give him the full gig he will piss off to Victoria.

 

[jakefooty23]

No idea how people still think the Bolton trade was good.

His year was very disappointing, he would be close to our top paid player and can't even make the top 10 of the BnF.

He kicks close to 1 in 3 goals he attempts. Can't hit 30m easy passes to forwards.

Not everyone is Lachie Neale Or Jordan Dawson mate, some players take time to adjust to the new scenery.

 

[ubiquitous226]

Got to take the good with the bad unfortunately, if we don't give him the full gig he will piss off to Victoria.

He already lives in Victoria

 

[fleur]

I dont see what the problem is really. We basically traded picks 12 and 33 for 19 and 23. The former pair didn’t work to get Juddy while the latter pair keeps us near enough to the pin while getting Juddy.

 

[rgauci]

I dont see what the problem is really. We basically traded picks 12 and 33 for 19 and 23. The former pair didn’t work to get Juddy while the latter pair keeps us near enough to the pin while getting Juddy.

If that was the whole trade no problem.

We then also traded 44 and 50 for pick 46.

Riddle me that?

 

[mightymouse75]

If that was the whole trade no problem.

We then also traded 44 and 50 for pick 46.

Riddle me that?

We don't think we will need anything to match Whan ?
Seems a bit odd.

 

[serial_thrilla]

We don't think we will need anything to match Whan ?
Seems a bit odd.

But why not ask for WC's F3 to balance it? Madness.

 

[mattis117]

If that was the whole trade no problem.

We then also traded 44 and 50 for pick 46.

Riddle me that?

It's pretty extreme to start a roast thread over two junk picks we weren't going to use anyway.

 

[mattis117]

But why not ask for WC's F3 to balance it? Madness.

Because you can't buy something with junk? WC future 3rd is worth a lot more than the picks we gave away. That pick would be around 40 and likely in a better draft than this one

 

[go_the_dockers]

Because got reid too?

The thread title is correct. Brilliant drafting hiding how shit the trading is.

 

[rgauci]

It's pretty extreme to start a roast thread over two junk picks we weren't going to use anyway.

I didn’t label it a roast thread, the mods did. It’s just reality, he’s not very good at standing his ground and extracting value. It’s hidden by the top notch drafting and sign ons; Treacy, Voss, Reid.

 

[fleur]

If that was the whole trade no problem.

We then also traded 44 and 50 for pick 46.

Riddle me that?

But those picks are shit, especially once they're pushed out, so does it really matter enough to be self flagellating over?

 

[jakefooty23]

He already lives in Victoria

Correct, I mean he will stop working for us and go to a Victorian based team.

 

[Eski3]

IMO his trading is the one thing stopping him from being the best list manager in the league. Imagine what he could do with better picks at his disposal

 

[largebus]

I'm not exactly thrilled by today's trade but now you've laid out the full history, it's... alright? A couple of bad ones but a lot of good ones. A lot of them look better in hindsight as well.

I will say he hasnt really bent anyone over a barrel a la the Weller trade which probably doesn't help his perception. People like to view every trade as a zero sum game with a winner and a loser. If McVee (and Whan) turn out well i won't really care much even if pick 33 turns out a gun.

The Bolton trade being a flop when it netted us Reid is a good laugh. That doesn't mean we "won" the trade or Richmond "lost" because again it isn't a zero sum game. It improved our team, regardless of Shai's hot and cold form, and the Tigers will probably improve from it as well.

The notion hes some drafting genius is also OTT imo

 

[chaosball32]

He’s a good list manger. He’s an awful negotiator with trades. Both can be true

In terms of talent our list is great but he’s consistently had us one of the youngest teams year after year. That looks to be no different this year with outgoing 34, 33, 29, 27 and 25 year olds and incoming 22 year old + draftees (yes the outgoings were mostly depth but that’s still experienced depth gone).

The guy is allergic to trading for anyone over the age of 25 with the exception of JOM for some reason.

FWIW I don’t consider list age to be as important as others and think with the amount of talent at our disposal that we should be contending regardless but I’ve been repeatedly told on here that this is a make or break factor.

He’s an elite talent identifier, bleh at everything else.

 

[fleur]

In terms of talent our list is great but he’s consistently had us one of the youngest teams year after year. That looks to be no different this year with outgoing 34, 33, 29, 27 and 25 year olds and incoming 22 year old + draftees (yes the outgoings were mostly depth but that’s still experienced depth gone).

The guy is allergic to trading for anyone over the age of 25 with the exception of JOM for some reason.

FWIW I don’t consider list age to be as important as others and think with the amount of talent at our disposal that we should be contending regardless but I’ve been repeatedly told on here that this is a make or break factor.

He’s an elite talent identifier, bleh at everything else.

He’s not working in isolation though. The decisions he makes are informed by the various managers, coaches, bosses and board, ie the club tells him what it wants. He’s not a rogue operator

 

[Bradesmaen]

Just curious: Did you mean to bold Dudley and not Voss in that example? You've had some interesting takes in the past but mostly I can kinda almost...ish see where you're coming from (not necessarily agree but also not going out of my way to argue either) except that one example.

I didn't for Dudley as this was his first season in the AFL

 

[Purple Suit]

Lets just hope Wallsy doesn't read Big Footy and decides to leave because of it.

I'll put up with his trading for his drafting skills. He's like prime Fyfe with old man Fyfe kicking.

 

[Purple Suit]

He already lives in Victoria

Seems like a dream job. Fifo without having to go into the office.

 

[Randomizor]

Lets just hope Wallsy doesn't read Big Footy and decides to leave because of it.

I'll put up with his trading for his drafting skills. He's like prime Fyfe with old man Fyfe kicking.

Nobody is reading these forums. Makes the constant glazing of the team even more pathetic.

 

[The Lobbster]

Nobody is reading these forums. Makes the constant glazing of the team even more pathetic.

As opposed to the heroic non stop shitting on a team you “support”