Recommitted Zach Merrett [UFA 2027] - Wanted a trade to Hawthorn, but it didn't get done

[Lore]

There we go, that's the clip:

 

[Obeanie1]

lol, the WC posters still in the Merrett thread, still cracking the sads over picking hawks picks instead of the blues.

Oh my my.

Lol at the Hawks posters who are so sensitive when others have opinions that arent blowing hot air up their backsides.

Just to be clear. There are many many reasons why opposition fans dont like your club and its supporters.

It isnt hard to find reasons either. And it is more than one group of fans who dont respect that club.

Hoping an arrogant Hawthorn fall flat on their faces gives us all something to look forward to. Simple concept really.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

8, F1 and a promise that we'll never, ever end up with Ned Reeves or Henry Hustwaite on our list.

Guess you must hate talent, both get a game for Essendon

 

[Dewyyyyy]

If only there was a filter on here that changed ‘8’ to ‘13’.

It would make the trade talks around here much more realistic.

Considering it’s pick 9, and academy picks are irrelevant because they were never available to begin with, I’d say pick 9 is still pick 9. Extremely simple.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Oh my my.

Lol at the Hawks posters who are so sensitive when others have opinions that arent blowing hot air up their backsides.

Just to be clear. There are many many reasons why opposition fans dont like your club and its supporters.

It isnt hard to find reasons either. And it is more than one group of fans who dont respect that club.

Hoping an arrogant Hawthorn fall flat on their faces gives us all something to look forward to. Simple concept really.

This is awesome I mean just imagine when (notice not IF exuding that arrogance you talk about ) we win a premiership in the next few years. It might go up a level. There is no end to the levels of arrogance that hawthorn supporters will reach

 

[Dewyyyyy]

IMO if Hawks want to get Merrett, then MacKenzie will need to be part of the trade. Merrett will make the Hawks so much better through their midfield, and they should pay up for that. Sure Mackenzie "could" be as good, but lets see the facts, he barely could break into their best 22 this year, clearly being held back for some reason, highly talented and highly regarded, but is that enough to knock back a sure thing in Merrett.

IMO no, and Essendon need something to sell to their members. Another high pick (to potentially trade into the top 2-3 players in the draft) plus Mackenzie is exactly the type of thing that would be sellable to the Essendon members. Their board know that a bad deal would burn the place down, so they need to be shown to get something valuable for their members.

I'm not sure personally why the Hawks wouldn't do a deal like that, Merrett is far more valuable in pushing their list towards a premiership next year than Mackenzie will be.

Bolded isn’t fact, it’s your opinion.

Mackenzie was best 22 categorically without a doubt and then got injured spending time on the sidelines, he returned not the same player and wasn’t able to get back to form, he has been consistently best 22.

 

[TazHawk15]

Oh my my.

Lol at the Hawks posters who are so sensitive when others have opinions that arent blowing hot air up their backsides.

Just to be clear. There are many many reasons why opposition fans dont like your club and its supporters.

It isnt hard to find reasons either. And it is more than one group of fans who dont respect that club.

Hoping an arrogant Hawthorn fall flat on their faces gives us all something to look forward to. Simple concept really.

Cut to the chase most WCE supporters don’t like the Hawks because we have made you look silly in two Grand Finals by flogging you by a combined 22 goals.

The fact the idiots running your club chose our draft picks instead of a team who the year before had won 2 games out of the last 13 and that was against your rabble and Richmond, only adds to the hurt.

Stop coming on here pretending to have some legit interest in this trade other than to display your sore arse about the Hawks, it’s soooo obvious it’s not funny.
PS if you can’t be arrogant when you have been the most successful club since joining the comp 100 years ago, when can you be?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Midfield will be thin again next year if Day doesn't make it back and McKenzie doesn't step up. If those two are good for 40 games in the midfield Hawks will be pretty sweet imo.

A lot of ifs in footy

Midfield going into next year without any new additions is still

Weddle - Day - D’Ambrosio
Meek - Newcombe - Ward
Mackenzie - Nash & Butler

 

[Hawkk]

Oh my my.

Lol at the Hawks posters who are so sensitive when others have opinions that arent blowing hot air up their backsides.

Just to be clear. There are many many reasons why opposition fans dont like your club and its supporters.

It isnt hard to find reasons either. And it is more than one group of fans who dont respect that club.

Hoping an arrogant Hawthorn fall flat on their faces gives us all something to look forward to. Simple concept really.

How do you say ‘I’m all in with Matty Clarke’ without actually saying it?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I disagree, the club is clear it doesnt want to trade ZM, so if Hawks need to send a player its their job to set it up.

Sure we will obviously chat to them, but it’s not our job to actually convince them.

If Hawthorn offer 2 firsts and Mackenzie (not saying it’ll happen, because it probably wouldn’t). Mackenzie says no I don’t wanna go, Essendon like the trade but Mackenzie doesn’t want to go there. Meeting with him and convincing him, talking deals specifically with him is apart of it. Goes for fringe players, guns and everyone inbetween.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Oh my my.

Lol at the Hawks posters who are so sensitive when others have opinions that arent blowing hot air up their backsides.

Just to be clear. There are many many reasons why opposition fans dont like your club and its supporters.

It isnt hard to find reasons either. And it is more than one group of fans who dont respect that club.

Hoping an arrogant Hawthorn fall flat on their faces gives us all something to look forward to. Simple concept really.

You literally came in here and started laughing at the prospect of “Hawthorn wasting their firsts on two 30 year olds” one of which played at your club.

It’s obvious your position here. If you wanna add something of actual value, leave that out next time, or be prepared to be called out for it. Either or is fine just don’t be “sensitive” about it.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Guess you must hate talent, both get a game for Essendon

Out of respect to the board mods I don't want to derail this thread by discussing other players, I'd be happy to talk about them in the VFL forum though.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Literally no proven A graders.. plenty of potential though

This is funny.

Newcombe and Day are both A Graders, whether Day can stay on the park consistently is to be seen however.

 

[Yoda_]

This is funny.

Newcombe and Day are both A Graders, whether Day can stay on the park consistently is to be seen however.

Day is as much of an a grader as Jordan Ridley

Newcomb isn’t as good as the good folk at Hawthorn think.
He’s a good player but there is a pretty obvious reason Hawthorn are chasing A graders talent

 

[RCAB]

There are many Hawthorn posters that come onto this forum with the sole purpose of slagging off Essendon. Adding nothing to the trade discussion. Look at your posting, changing it so that you pretended to not to know Tsatas, or having a whinge when all the drug talk in here was stopped.
These are the same posters who also have a big cry when called out for their shit-posting.

You just proved my point again. Your Essendon cohorts gave you a heap of likes on this post.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Day is as much of an a grader as Jordan Ridley

Newcomb isn’t as good as the good folk at Hawthorn think.
He’s a good player but there is a pretty obvious reason Hawthorn are chasing A graders talent

Jordan Ridley

Day is a bonafied gun, anyone with a brain knows that. The fact he hasn’t been able to stay fit doesn’t change his ability.

Newcombe* is a gun, been the best finals player 4/5 games, tough being tagged consistently when there hasn’t been enough capable support.

When Day isn’t playing, you can’t expect to win big finals consistently with just one A Grader in the middle, until the younger guys make it consistently, Day gets to play consistently or Hawthorn get in another A Grader it is pretty self explanatory.

 

[Hawkk]

Literally no proven A graders.. plenty of potential though

Can you BOG in four out of five knock out finals and not be an A grader? As an aside who was the last Essendon player to actually BOG in a final?

James Hird…21 years ago

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Hmmm Reeves and Hustwaite would both play for Essendon’s afl side, so I wonder what that makes Essendon’s AFL side? Team of VFL players?

Yes, Essendon finished 15th this year and are generally regarded as a bad football club. It is typical to improve a football club by moving out substandard players and replacing them with AFL standard players. Your suggestion to replace them with more substandard players is an interesting one, and something I'll raise at the next board meeting. Thank you for your attention to this matter

 

[RCAB]

Dewy some posters are just not worth replying to. Just clogs up the thread with nonsense.

Also I'm not gonna to say who, but there's one poster who's said the same thing here about 300 times now. Extraordinary.

 

[HeHateMe]

As I said, Jordan Ridley is a bonafide A graders, might even be better than Day.

Newcomb is a B grader, he is not a top tier mid. Not consistent enough.
You can deny it all you want but facts are facts

Wow, must be easy to win finals and make prelims then if you don't even need A graders.

You listening to yourself?

 

[TazHawk15]

Day is as much of an a grader as Jordan Ridley

Newcomb isn’t as good as the good folk at Hawthorn think.
He’s a good player but there is a pretty obvious reason Hawthorn are chasing A graders talent

So let me get this straight you think a guy who has been BOG in 4 of the 5 Finals he has played in (not that any Essendon supporter would know anything about finals) who got voted by all the AFL coaches as the best young player in the game the same year Daicos played and has been voted in the top 50 players in the comp the last 2 years is a B grader.

Will Day is not an an A Grader.

Either you confess to being the DODO or on ignore you go.
I am all for a bit of banter but I can’t deal with that spectacular level of stupid.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Yes, Essendon finished 15th this year and are generally regarded as a bad football club. It is typical to improve a football club by moving out substandard players and replacing them with AFL standard players. Your suggestion to replace them with more substandard players is an interesting one, and something I'll raise at the next board meeting. Thank you for your attention to this matter

It’s very simple that players that may not get opportunities in one side, which is a strong club playing in a prelim. That they would in a side that were bottom 4.

Hawthorns ruck was in this boat aka Meek at Freo, plenty of talented players aren’t able to break through, find opportunities and then thrive. Ned Long has done it at Collingwood this year.

Both Reeves and Hustwaite would play for Essendon. Hence their position being mentioned as steak knives in a trade.

 

[matey]

Big reason Bombers want 2/3 firsts is because they’ve got little idea and confidence in their recruiters identifying quality young talent and think we’ll hopefully get one good one out of 3! Delusional bunch

 

[HeHateMe]

A long history shows this happening. Disagree all you want but it occurs

But seriously think about it, what's stopping Essendon making finals then since you guys have great youth and A grade talent better than some finals teams like Hawthorn.

 

[cAsEy_18]

Big reason Bombers want 2/3 firsts is because they’ve got little idea and confidence in their recruiters identifying quality young talent and think we’ll hopefully get one good one out of 3! Delusional bunch

Yes, yes if we were confident in our drafting... we'd want less picks?

C'mon now. If it's in there, please use any sort of common sense before posting.

 

[Donflicted]

Big reason Bombers want 2/3 firsts is because they’ve got little idea and confidence in their recruiters identifying quality young talent and think we’ll hopefully get one good one out of 3! Delusional bunch

Dodoro works at Port Melbourne