Traded Charlie Curnow [Traded with #31, #42, '27 R2 (Carl) to Sydney for Hayward, #11, '26 & '27 R1 (Syd)]

[Edmund hunt]

According to someone on our page Curnow has agreed to both Geelongs and Our deal put to him. So you can put to bed he isn't interested in coming to Sydney. Now it's up to you guys to decide which deal is the better for u.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

No wonder Carlton hasn't done diddly squat in 30 years, they don't care about important relevant issues such as the health of potential recruits apparently.

Yep I'm sure Carlton hasn't done diddly squat in 30 years because some nuffies on the internet are arguing with each other over meaningless crap

 

[hammer180]

Could something like this work?
Sdk to saints for Marshall and 26 first (perhaps cats give up a f2 as well)
saints 26 1st cats 25 26 27 1 to carlton
curnow to cats

Understand carlton fans will say they don't want picks and want players but think its going to be hard to say no to 4 firsts, giving them 3 in next yrs, so they should get walker and another pick in a better draft. Cats and silvagni compo should be close to Dean and and can still trade tdk compo for a player.
Cats get Marshall and curnow
Saints get sdk

 

[Bagger72]

Could something like this work?
Sdk to saints for Marshall and 26 first (perhaps cats give up a f2 as well)
saints 26 1st cats 25 26 27 1 to carlton
curnow to cats

Understand carlton fans will say they don't want picks and want players but think its going to be hard to say no to 4 firsts, giving them 3 in next yrs, so they should get walker and another pick in a better draft. Cats and silvagni compo should be close to Dean and and can still trade tdk compo for a player.
Cats get Marshall and curnow
Saints get sdk

2027 1st is worth close to zero.
2026 1sts would interest
2025 + 2027 1sts no interest in the case with Charlie. They can be packaged up to someone that need early picks and willing to trade them for a good player of positional need for the Blues. Carlton has no interest running around trying to find that player as Charlie is contracted. The onus is on Geelong to offer 2025+227 1sts for a good player possibly another club involved the Blues will be happy with.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yep, over that period Curnow kicked 202 goals from 69 games vs Cameron 182 goals from 68 games. A very comparable sample size given Curnow only played the 1 extra game. Diluted in part because of the games at the end of 2024 that Curnow was subbed off with his ankle woes.

In terms of averages over that period...

Curnow vs Cameron

Goals - 2.9 vs 2.65
Behinds - 1.8 vs 1.6
Goal Assists - 0.65 vs 0.76
Contested Marks - 2.2 vs 0.8
Marks Inside 50 - 2.8 vs 2.7
Score Involvements - 7.3 vs 7.65

Would give the points to Curnow pretty comfortably there with almost triple the contested marks, and a considerable amount of goals more to go with it.
All while playing in a team that was far less successful, had far worse delivery inside 50, and was far lower scoring than Geelong over that period.

Goals from frees comparison?

 

[Bagger72]

Goals from frees comparison?

Wont be much difference if any - besides they play different roles. Cameron is more of a roaming CHF where Charlie is FF.

McKay plays the Cameron role. Charlie plays the Hawkins role if you like.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Goals from frees comparison?

If you can be bothered going through and finding that information you're more than welcome to

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Max Holmes or shut up.

I'm going with neither of those options

 

[Wojcinski]

No where has Cal said Carlton have asked for those players as you claimed. It's Sydney trying to find players they can include in a package which is yet to be offered to Carlton.

Rowbottom/Florent now seem to be being shopped to other clubs probably to get more capital for a potential Charlie trade. As much as I rate Rowbottom I don't think it's someone Carlton should have interest in due to our over-abundance of inside mids. And as has been provided earlier Hayward himself said he is willing to move if required.

Now think about this, why would he mention them if they all knocked it back? Because Carlton has obviously asked about them - otherwise he is just spit balling names which is not really what Twomey does

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Now think about this, why would he mention them if they all knocked it back? Because Carlton has obviously asked about them - otherwise he is just spit balling names which is not really what Twomey does

He also reported that Florent isn't interested in a move on Thursday and within 2 days Florent is apparently being asked to explore his options...

 

[carlton_99]

Now think about this, why would he mention them if they all knocked it back? Because Carlton has obviously asked about them - otherwise he is just spit balling names which is not really what Twomey does

Because Sydney are searching for players to include in a deal. It doesn't mean Carlton have asked for them when it's been said from the start that Carlton aren't going to be telling clubs what Curnow is worth.

If Rowbottom was destined for Carlton in a deal why would he be talking to McRae for? It's obvious Swans were willing to let him go to another club to get more assets for Carlton in a Curnow trade. Jon Ralph even noted in an article today that rival clubs believe Swans want to trade Florent for a F2 to use in the Curnow deal.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2026 we already have the best player in that draft class sewn up.

2027 is compromised by Tasmania.

Those picks mean very little to us, so there’s your answer.

Genuine question because I don't know the answer, but isn't F/S and academy matching limited to 2 picks to be used only next year?

If your boy is pick 2 and you have pick 8 on hand again then doesn't that mean you're going to need a pick inside 18 to match with?

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you only have a first and a third? And Cody is rated at or around pick 1-5?

 

[Benaly28]

2 First Rounders is too much let alone 3. The guy just isn't the right age profile as he is almost 30 along with having had a fairly ordinary year with significant injury concerns hovering over him. He would be a nice addition at a fair equitable price (2 F1s at best) but he probably has 3 prime years left in him, 4 if we are lucky so the Blues ridiculous asking price gets a big NO from me.

Now if he were 25 and under with reasonably good health then yeah 3 Firsts are justified. As it is, I'm quite happy to let this trade slide through to the keeper and focus on players within the right age profile with preferably no serious injury concerns.

If no Curnow trade goes through watch the Blues do a Clarry and pay for half his contract and accept just 1 First Rounder next year. Clown show if I've ever seen one.

Agree.

Charlie’s management along with himself are all a bunch of clownsWe’ll do what’s right for the CFC.

 

[Bagger72]

Genuine question because I don't know the answer, but isn't F/S and academy matching limited to 2 picks to be used only next year?

If your boy is pick 2 and you have pick 8 on hand again then doesn't that mean you're going to need a pick inside 18 to match with?

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you only have a first and a third? And Cody is rated at or around pick 1-5?

If its genuine question - then the genuine answer is clubs can go into deficit up to 1216 points. The club doesnt need to trade Charlie for Cody they both can play in the same team together.

 

[bradfisher14]

Genuine question because I don't know the answer, but isn't F/S and academy matching limited to 2 picks to be used only next year?

If your boy is pick 2 and you have pick 8 on hand again then doesn't that mean you're going to need a pick inside 18 to match with?

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you only have a first and a third? And Cody is rated at or around pick 1-5?

Yeah probably, but in any case the Swans 2026 first is odds on to be more valuable.

 

[randyzany]

Because Sydney are searching for players to include in a deal. It doesn't mean Carlton have asked for them when it's been said from the start that Carlton aren't going to be telling clubs what Curnow is worth.

If Rowbottom was destined for Carlton in a deal why would he be talking to McRae for? It's obvious Swans were willing to let him go to another club to get more assets for Carlton in a Curnow trade. Jon Ralph even noted in an article today that rival clubs believe Swans want to trade Florent for a F2 to use in the Curnow deal.

You want Sydney and Geelong to be clairvoyants or something? It's all well and good to be telling clubs in trade discussions to do Carlton's job for them.

But this has the downside of potentially ruining the relationship that Sydney and Geelong have built with their players by essentially signalling to some of them that they don't value them as much as some other player on another team by asking them if they'd like to move to a poorly performing club (in the case of Geelong to Carlton) to facilitate that trade.

Screw that, if Carlton is interested in a player at Geelong (maybe Sydney feel differently) you have to reach out to them yourselves and signal interest, not expect Geelong to damage their relationship with their players in a fishing expedition to get a trade done.

This also solves the issue of quickly finding out which player Carlton is actually interested in instead of Geelong going in a fishing expedition until they finally arrive at the player Carlton thinks would make a fair trade, potentially upsetting half the team in the process.

 

[The Unforgiven]

The answer is you’ll be a top 2 side with Curnow in it.

Max Holmes or shut up.

We wouldn't be a top 2 side without Max Holmes, so your point is reduntant.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If its genuine question - then the genuine answer is clubs can go into deficit up to 1216 points. The club doesnt need to trade Charlie for Cody they both can play in the same team together.

Ah forgot the deficit thing. Cheers

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Cats fans arguing for the sake of arguing ITT

Max Holmes or STFU

Nonsense.

Yeah, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Massive upgrade on Neale. Shifts the dial in a huge way.

And I’d be happy to part with players in order to make it happen.

Neale wouldn’t fit alongside Curnow and Cameron, so he’s the first to go. Personally don’t rate him, so not to us, but I’m sure you’d get a solid return from somewhere.

I’d also consider moving anyone not named Smith or Holmes. No-one would be off limits such is the size of the prize on offer.

It would be foolish for Geelong to take the exact same list into 2026 and expect a different result. Brisbane has upgraded massively, I think Geelong need something. Marshall and Curnow would be perfect. Curnow is a luxury that tips the scales. Marshall a necessity - Rhys Stanley cannot be your #1 option in 2026.

But Geelong has a history of “winning” every trade it’s involved in, never pays market value, and hasn’t let a great player leave for as long as I can remember.

So with all of that in mind I see zero prospect of a deal getting done with Carlton or St Kilda. And that’s perfectly ok for us, but a missed opportunity for the Cats.

Entitled to your opinion, even when failing to put yourself in our shoes.

No way should we be tapping a player to make way for a superfluous forward.

Charlie is trying to get to a club with little appetite to make it happen

Bro I don't know how to break this to you, but fpm84 isn't actually on the Geelong list management team.

I'm not sure what you want him to do here.

This

*Her

Stop posting nonsense?

Pot/kettle

Dont care if Neale is this or that - can you get a deal good enough to get Blues to the table? No - then all this other stuff is 100% pointless.

The Blues said they want an A grade player at minimum through media leaks. Thats a starting point and its also obvious also want F1. All the rest the Geelong fans spew up is just rhetorical nonsense.

We've spewed up nothing of the sort.

We are aware and agree it will take a player.
We are aware and agree that we won't.
We applaud that we won't.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yeah probably, but in any case the Swans 2026 first is odds on to be more valuable.

Yeah I agree he'll be at the Swans so it's redundant for us. I'm just trying to gauge how this change to trading impacts the value of later firsts in general

 

[Elixuh]

You are a bloody Muppet.
No wonder the Pies folk mock you relentlessly (and deservedly).

No need to get upset Arty, you get very upset when Geelong can’t get players for a packet of twisties. Now now.

 

[pressurepoint]

Move on catters, deal not accepted.

 

[randyzany]

Well STFU then. Why are you in this thread complaining about Carlton not accepting the magic beans offer, you grifting keyboard hero?

Eh? All I am doing is what Chief has set up this board to do, offer an opinion on footy related matters. That's the whole point of BF and how Chief makes a quid or am I missing something and only people directly connected to AFL clubs can participate on BF?

 

[bradfisher14]

Yeah I agree he'll be at the Swans so it's redundant for us. I'm just trying to gauge how this change to trading impacts the value of later firsts in general

Difficult to say given the AFL have made nothing public about it. Apparently the clubs have been told which is something I guess.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

No need to get upset Arty, you get very upset when Geelong can’t get players for a packet of twisties. Now now.

Very cranky man he is.