Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[CarnTheScray]

Duryea, Kennedy?

The reverence for him didn't start with either of those trades. Was the 2021 one that made so many of us, myself included, proud of our list management. Wasn't Kennedy also a Treloar type acquisition.

PS I am also melting.

 

[Tony Barber]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

 

[Dogs Rule]

I don't think we are to blame, but any situation like this requires an intensive review. There are always tiny things to be done better, no matter how well it's been handled.

A devil's advocate argument would say that we have had two #1 picks fail under this current regime as well as a long, long history of a poor reputation for indigenous players. There are definitely going to be things to improve.

Yep and I would argue that we think very very carefully about who we draft in future. Been burnt too often.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

Cool. Thanks for the intrusion

 

[Mojorisin]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

If he took the 800 it would be the last pay check he got. He may be on less next year but has the potential to revive his career.

 

[Struggle]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

There was no option to stay. If he had a claim to keep his contract for next season, we would be posting 650k for him to play for the Suns

We clearly had grounds for tearing it up after everything that happened this season

 

[doggie dog]

Hoping our developing VFL ruck who is yet to debut at AFL level could be our KPD savior next year is peak BigFooty.

Just trying to stay positive mate, I never said Savior.
Who knows how we could use our new interchange. But we haven't been given a 1st choice FB, so we gotta suck it up and make use of our best resources.

 

[Sentinel]

Jamarra off the books and no overpaying of other recruits allows us to bring forward $800k worth of existing contracts for other players, and in turn open up a chunk of cap for 2027. We should have a Saints style warchest developing that we can perhaps a little more wisely on A graders level targets.

 

[weltschmerz]

Just trying to stay positive mate, I never said Savior.
Who knows how we could use our new interchange. But we haven't been given a 1st choice FB, so we gotta suck it up and make use of our best resources.

you're not a real fan if you're not having a huge tantrum about how we couldn't materialise a prime full back who wanted to be traded to us and had his club's blessing

 

[Optimistic Dog]

On a trade ladder over last 10 years we would be down near the bottom. The 2 biggest names are Tom Boyd and Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

32

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

and no other high profile players. If we were in business as traders, we would be bankrupt.

Thankfully we have been pretty good at the draft and lucky with father and sons without this we would be a bottom of the ladder team.

We do not have a lot of picks so will have to be spot on with our first pick in this draft.

 

[ossie_21]

If we don’t get Butters next year, I want heads to roll from top to bottom within our club.

We will still need a KPD more than ever this time next year too.

 

[Tony Barber]

There was no option to stay. If he had a claim to keep his contract for next season, we would be posting 650k for him to play for the Suns

We clearly had grounds for tearing it up after everything that happened this season

Ok, I'm just being positive about a humans health and your club.
Thank god I'm not a GC supporter posting this

 

[HK_Bulldog]

If he took the 800 it would be the last pay check he got. He may be on less next year but has the potential to revive his career.

Not sure about that.
He could've taken the 800k, then spend a year in the VFL. If he does well and kicks plenty of goals, he would revive his career. Its a more difficult path as it seems we have blacklisted him but better financially for him.

 

[CarnTheScray]

We ain't a destination club, always have been that way.....we are underdogs for a reason.
We get nothing handed to us eg Plastics/Suns/Northern Acadamies
No MCG home games/ANZAC/Queens BDay to draw free agents, or pay in brown paper bags.
Sam Power is doing a fantastic job at list building with what he has.
Just the last 3 years
Rory Lobb
Matt Kennedy
Harmes
DRAFT
Fridge
Sanders
Croft
Dolan
Davo
Sellwood
Cleary
All possible best 22 next year.

I hope you are right and I like a lot of those players but I reckon I heard this same thing in 2021 and 2022 when we drafted, Buss, Charlie Clarke, Gallagher, and rookied McComb and Parker. Since then we have only used the rookie draft to keep McNeil and Duryea on the list.

I was never impressed by those draftees. Though I have watched this recent group closely and like what they have especially Hynes. Have hope for Davidson and Dolan as well.

 

[Dog 36]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

AFL is paying the balance take it to the bank.

JUH types do not walk away from 650k a year

Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story

 

[weltschmerz]

I hope you are right and I like a lot of those players but I reckon I heard this same thing in 2021 and 2022 when we drafted, Buss, Charlie Clarke, Gallagher, and rookied McComb and Parker. Since then we have only used the rookie draft to keep McNeil and Duryea on the list.

I was never impressed by those draftees. Though I have watched this recent group closely and like what they have especially Hynes. Have hope for Davidson and Dolan as well.

I think we've also done quite well in the mid-season draft this year.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Polite intrusion incoming. And I'm not sure how to word it.

JUH needed a slap. No doubt.

But the fact that he could have stayed and dragged $800k out of your club but decided instead to go play for $250k with a one year contract deserves some credit.

If it was your son and he said "dad, I'm going to drop $600k, move interstate and try to sort my shit out".

You'd applaud your son.

If you really cared you could've lent us a Cotton On photoshoot or an Aston Martin.

 

[iambrilliant]

On a trade ladder over last 10 years we would be down near the bottom. The 2 biggest names are Tom Boyd and Adam Treloar and no other high profile players. If we were in business as traders, we would be bankrupt.

Thankfully we have been pretty good at the draft and lucky with father and sons without this we would be a bottom of the ladder team.

We do not have a lot of picks so will have to be spot on with our first pick in this draft.

Alex Keath and Josh Bruce were nice trades from us

 

[The Inbetweener]

If we don’t get Butters next year, I want heads to roll from top to bottom within our club.

We will still need a KPD more than ever this time next year too.

We certainly seem to have a lot of eggs in the Butters basket. Going to be pretty bleak if we don’t land him given we’ll have plenty of cap space

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

disappointed with the outcome and what we got
however that many talls was never going to work and someone had to go unfortunately regardless

 

[Selim]

i really think we should bring in May honestly try and get him as cheap as possible i think it would do wonders for the development of JOD & Buss in the long term

 

[Iamspock]

Haha I wonder which part?

He really needs to grow up or **** off. I imagine he thinks he’s untouchable, once he’s out of the AFL bubble (and he’s unbelievably lucky he isn’t right now) he’s going to be screwed.

He's an AFL pet player, now playing for the AFL's nepo team, they'll do everything to protect him, and thereby their brand, screw the rest of us.

 

[Marsy]

The most disappointing thing about this trade period is no Zac jones

 

[Struggle]

Alex Keath and Josh Bruce were nice trades from us

Ehhh Josh Bruce had one very good season and one ruined by injury. But his first year with us was close to the worst season i can remember for a player locked in the team each week.

17 games for 14 goals and was genuinely shit most weeks

Keath was a very good buy

 

[Norm De Guerre]

1 minute and 8 seconds of Sam Power

Sam Power

Age

42

Ht

190cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

saying meh! we're moving on.