Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

 

[year of the cat]

Im critical of going after contracted players. We clearly spent effort into it and were willing to throw up to many draft picks to get old overrated players.

I think in the period we are currently in, that is vying for a flag and possibly being only one or two pieces away, it's not unreasonable to at least explore all options to improve our side. Including bringing in contracted players. Mackie had a price he was prepared to go to and didn't offer anything ridiculous. Over the odds? Possibly. Because that's what you need to do to prize a contracted player from a side.

In the end it's all moot. It didn't happen. And there was really no one I saw (aside from perhaps a fit and healthy Oliver) was worth really looking at.

 

[thegerman]

Changes quickly though. I agree they're often overvalued, but you still need them.

Trading out of three straight drafts for Baz (superstar, but has his issues) and a 30 year old ruck before Tassie comes in is the type of situation that could get us a documentary made in 10 years for exactly what not to do.

Part of the reason we are the club we are is we don't overpay for B-graders. Worpel a perfect example, if we're giving up 19 instead of nothing as a FA, then you walk away. It turns a net positive into a net negative.

If you become that club, you end up like Hinkley's port where every B-grader is the 'last piece of the puzzle' - and before too long, the middle falls out because you've got nothing coming through.

Agree, however, we are not trading everything away. I feel again we’ve got this mindset that draft picks have higher value than the risk of the unknown.

 

[D BRIDGE]

You really made that sound sexual.

Anything to get my man Ollie up and going.

 

[you pick one]

No Curnow no Marshall no Continental tyres and no Rheem hot water and the Sun still came up this morning how does that work.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Geelong just needs to go after free agents and uncontracted players. Stop going after contracted players. You either dont get them or pay too much. Mackie failed this trade period.

Yeah... Nah... Not sure we went after them or they choose to initiate it all from the get go.
So in saying that, Mack actually did what was best for the GFC.
Not a fail in my eyes.
If he bent us over and we paid overs then folks would be saying the same thing.
And so would I.
He did the GFC thing as in we do what's best for the entire organisation.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Brisbane has potential to keep getting better.

Gold Coast are just warming up + added Petracca.

Selling the farm for Roma (whilst would be a good player for us) isn't enough anyway IMO.

We need Butters.

 

[jim boy]

Yes all those things are what they are. I’m just pointing to a sense of overvaluing draft picks.

Hmmm - maybe we should have offered lower draft valued picks than we did but let Stephen Wells make the draft selection for the other team.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Brisbane has potential to keep getting better.

Gold Coast are just warming up + added Petracca.

Selling the farm for Roma (whilst would be a good player for us) isn't enough anyway IMO.

We need Butters.

It would have been like selling the farm for Goldy in 2019.

It would have helped, but it wasn't going to get us a flag. We still needed Cameron (Butters this time) and Stengle (a Zorko style distributor IMO) to truely be the best team.

 

[year of the cat]

Brisbane has potential to keep getting better.

Gold Coast are just warming up + added Petracca.

Selling the farm for Roma (whilst would be a good player for us) isn't enough anyway IMO.

We need Butters.

Butters could move the dial. He literally, like Cameron was, could be the difference between challenging and actually winning a flag. We need to land him.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Butters could move the dial. He literally, like Cameron was, could be the difference between challenging and actually winning a flag. We need to land him.

With the player he is and his age, he's actually worthy of the 'whatever it takes' approach.

Curnow wasn't only due to his age and injuries, and Marshall just flatout was never that player.

 

[thegerman]

Hmmm - maybe we should have offered lower draft valued picks than we did but let Stephen Wells make the draft selection for the other team.

yes maybe, however, as a few posters have presented the draft picks that have worked out for us, we gloss over the Cooper Sevens, Cockatoo, Lang, Thurlow… the risk of drafting isn’t a fair judgement here I think.

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

We didn't even get a little suprise player, so sad, Mackie ruins Christmas .

 

[Jumping Jack]

Spoke with someone earlier who is closely connected to a prominent player manager.

Won't repeat the exact words, but the general tone was far from complimentary towards the Saints, and whilst acknowledging that they got some wins this trade period, indicated that most other clubs and player managers will have long memories when they get to this time next year.

Words along the lines of - they've acted like tough guys this trade period but they'll pay the price in future.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Spoke with someone earlier who is closely connected to a prominent player manager.

Won't repeat the exact words, but the general tone was far from complimentary towards the Saints, and whilst acknowledging that they got some wins this trade period, indicated that most other clubs and player managers will have long memories when they get to this time next year.

Words along the lines of - they've acted like tough guys this trade period but they'll pay the price in future.

Sounds like they went BANG

 

[Del216647]

Spoke with someone earlier who is closely connected to a prominent player manager.

Won't repeat the exact words, but the general tone was far from complimentary towards the Saints, and whilst acknowledging that they got some wins this trade period, indicated that most other clubs and player managers will have long memories when they get to this time next year.

Words along the lines of - they've acted like tough guys this trade period but they'll pay the price in future.

Gee, I wouldn't have thought that. Interesting.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop as always, some great intel there.

Some would say that is quite a staggering development.

 

[Whiskers]

Why are Carlton being highly praised for getting 3 crappy 1sts for a gun and no one mentions Melbourne who snagged 3 1sts, 2 of which are top 10 picks for a player who is past his best?
Saints are also paying some of Steele’s contract.

 

[jim boy]

yes maybe, however, as a few posters have presented the draft picks that have worked out for us, we gloss over the Cooper Sevens, Cockatoo, Lang, Thurlow… the risk of drafting isn’t a fair judgement here I think.

Oh yeah, that was why I said a later pick. Stephen wells is very much the sav rocca of selectors, gets the shanks when it is a gimme, but usually nails them from outside 50.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Oh yeah, that was why I said a later pick. Stephen wells is very much the sav rocca of selectors, gets the shanks when it is a gimme, but usually nails them from outside 50.

Wells with 15 aint a thing.

 

[cats_09]

We didn't even get a little suprise player, so sad, Mackie ruins Christmas .

Just wait until you see who we draft with pick #99

 

[Gazza Greatness]

Yes his parents are at Bacchus Marsh.
But he bought acreage closer to Geelong a bit over a year ago.

So there are links to the region.

And yes, we'd need to break the mould with regards to players and dollars.

TB: when you say break the mould with regards to players and dollars I do take you mean 'within reason' and in line with a certain percentage of our salary cap and no more. I say this because there is no way known you can have sustained success as we have over the past 18 years if you burst the bubble and have one or two individuals within a club being completely out of whack 'with their payment contracts and performance' in comparison with the rest of the group, otherwise something always has to give when this is done. The Saints currently as an over-blown example will be left in this predicament a lot sooner than that they'll ever anticapicate for it's not sustainable. In the past we owe much to the likes of Joel Selwood, Tomahawk, Danger, etc.

 

[CoolCat75]

Spoke with someone earlier who is closely connected to a prominent player manager.

Won't repeat the exact words, but the general tone was far from complimentary towards the Saints, and whilst acknowledging that they got some wins this trade period, indicated that most other clubs and player managers will have long memories when they get to this time next year.

Words along the lines of - they've acted like tough guys this trade period but they'll pay the price in future.

I am staggered

I would not have gathered that a club that courts a player for 2 years and then bails on them at the last minute, costing the player $1 million, will generate long memories for future players and managers.

Bang!!

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Problem for O Henry, is that he is in the same situation next season as he was this past season.

Having Dangerfield and him in the forward line together didn't work.

I think we will find him another role to be honest.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm happy not to get curnow and Marshall. We put good offers for both of them and walked away when they wanted overs.

I'm more concerned on the lack of activity improving other parts of the list. Did we throw 3 x first round picks for any other players?

There were players available who didn't move clubs in the end that I would have grabbed.

The pool of talent this year was low. There's much better players available next year that I would rather we target so im fine with what we did.

Seems we pissed them off and then they shut up shop.
Probably just should have traded our future 1st like they wanted in the first place. Instead we refused and started telling the football world that we thought they had a salary cap squeeze.
Wells would have just done the deal I'm sure.
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If you listen to Ross lyons comments last night honestly they weren't ever trading him (which is unfortunate for him) I dont think it would have mattered what we offered.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I am staggered

I would not have gathered that a club that courts a player for 2 years and then bails on them at the last minute, costing the player $1 million, will generate long memories for future players and managers.

Bang!!

Probably more than $1 million in the end when I think about it.

offering lets say 750k for 4 or 5 years = 3 or 3.75million.

He probably just stayed at GWS for 400ish for 2x years = 800k

Because everyone knew they were so into him, nobody else had time to look into him and GWS didn't have hardly any $$$ saved for him because they expected him to go.

Deadset scammed this guy out of at least $2 million.

Complete dogs act, one of the worst I can think of... surprised they haven't been smashed even harder for doing so.

It's almost theft.

Imagine thinking for so long you are gonna get this huge contract... even last week grubby allen said "we'll get it done" and then they just say... nahhh.

It's a rug pull on Aleer... Cost him millions... Dude gonna be depressed as over it.

 

[standupand]

Probably more than $1 million in the end when I think about it.

offering lets say 750k for 4 or 5 years = 3 or 3.75million.

He probably just stayed at GWS for 400ish for 2x years = 800k

Because everyone knew they were so into him, nobody else had time to look into him and GWS didn't have hardly any $$$ saved for him because they expected him to go.

Deadset scammed this guy out of at least $2 million.

Complete dogs act, one of the worst I can think of... surprised they haven't been smashed even harder for doing so.

It's almost theft.

Imagine thinking for so long you are gonna get this huge contract... even last week grubby allen said "we'll get it done" and then they just say... nahhh.

It's a rug pull on Aleer... Cost him millions... Dude gonna be depressed as over it.

He should sue them for equitable estoppel.