Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[carlton_99]

Cal Twomey saying we are showing interest in Lachy Dovaston

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Dean, Dovaston, Ison would be a good mix

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Cal Twomey saying we are showing interest in Lachy Dovaston

If we truly think we're a chance of getting Butters next year it wouldn't be the worst fit.

Still rather save our picks for Butler or Neocleous next year ahead of Dovaston, they're absolutely elite small fwd prospects.

 

[Stamos]

Yes we could get extra points overall but would have less points to deal with Dean and ison, particularly if the bids come in early

If the trade were for 21 and 27 (assuming they become 22 and 25 by the time of the bid), it would actually by more points. That’s the equivalent of pick 10 for our 2nd pick, rather than 14 if we hold our picks, plus the higher choice of player at 6 (9).

 

[Sin City]

Cal Twomey saying we are showing interest in Lachy Dovaston

I love this.
At some stage in their career (draft or trade) a first round pick was used on all of Hipwood, Daniher, Cameron, Bailey, Lohman, Rayner, Ah Chee. Even Sam Day that they got in as depth after Daniher retired.
Adelaide took a while to make the jump but finished the season on top of the ladder. They’ve used first round picks on Thilthorp, Fogarty, Rachelle, Rankine, Pedlar. Keays was the first pick in the second round and Tex obviously would’ve been a first rounder but he was on a scholarship. Then they tried to recruit Ah Chee this off season.
This is absolutely the right area of the ground to use the early picks on.

 

[bradfisher14]

If we truly think we're a chance of getting Butters next year it wouldn't be the worst fit.

Still rather save our picks for Butler or Neocleous next year ahead of Dovaston, they're absolutely elite small fwd prospects.

What is your analysis of Dovaston as a prospect?

 

[Juice030103]

ive just beeen watching Dovastan. Love him

Poor mans Watson vibes to me bitta papley in your nose see you next Tuesday about him. Clean hands. Recorded the 4th best agility time ever at the combine. Came 5th in the running vertical

Would be a handy addition to the forward line

 

[GoBlues!]

If the trade were for 21 and 27 (assuming they become 22 and 25 by the time of the bid), it would actually by more points. That’s the equivalent of pick 10 for our 2nd pick, rather than 14 if we hold our picks, plus the higher choice of player at 6 (9).

Not sure why people are not seeing the benefit of trading up for ESS #6, #21 and #27 - not saying it will happen but it has merit and appears to benefit both teams.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Carlton's AFL Draft blueprint: Potential targets, list needs, draft hand

With two early picks and some club-tied prospects to select, the Blues are set for an exciting draft haul.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[Blue and Silver]

Lachy Dovaston is a small forward in the modern mold.

Tenacious, Audacious, Skilled, Frustrating and Exhilarating.

The type of player opposition supporters love to hate

 

[swuzzlebubble]

ive just beeen watching Dovastan. Love him

Has clear natural footy smarts.
Similar to Kossi Pickett

 

[Jimmae]

What’s the dilemma BT?

If there’s no early bid on Dean we will use #9 on the best available player.

It doesn’t matter if the Hawks bid on Dean at pick 10, we use #11 which will easily match the bid after you apply the 10% discount to #10 points value.

If Hawks don’t bid, we still end up using use #11 on Dean.

If I'm to take you literally there, no, we would trade back and take further value in this or another draft through the points discount.

Your* strategy is not a strategy at all.

Carlton's AFL Draft blueprint: Potential targets, list needs, draft hand

With two early picks and some club-tied prospects to select, the Blues are set for an exciting draft haul.

www.zerohanger.com

ChatGPT article.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

AFL Phantom Draft 2025: Top 10 prospects, first round projections | Sporting News Australia

Now that the AFL trade period is over, it's time for focus on November's AFL National Draft.

www.sportingnews.com

No.9: Harry Dean - Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country​

Draft team prediction: Carlton (Essendon bid matched)

Position: Defender

Height: 193cm

Son of Carlton defender Peter, Harry is also a key back in a similar mould to his father.

He can shut down his opponent, play an intercept role and distributes the ball with quality.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

ChatGPT article

I see OpenAI launching Atlas browser.
Won't be long it will automatically be able to post on BigFooty to rebut arguments.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

What is your analysis of Dovaston as a prospect?

Poor man's Watson is a fairly apt comparison for mine. Plays very similar to Watson but not as gifted athletically and isn't as skilled imo.

He'd definitely be an improvement on some of our small forwards stocks but when comparing him to Butler, Neocleous and Prasad next year he doesn't really stick out as an enticing prospect for me.

I'd trade 9+11 for Butler in a heartbeat if he were in this draft. Elite speed, elite strength for a small, huge leap, tough as anything too and kicks bags on the regular.

 

[Jimmae]

I see OpenAI launching Atlas browser.
Won't be long it will automatically be able to post on BigFooty to rebut arguments.

Already happening, but thankfully the dead internet theory hasn't fully taken hold yet.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Already happening, but thankfully the dead internet theory hasn't fully taken hold yet.

Suspected you may have been an early adopter

 

[Blugazi]

Dovaston would complete our modern forward update.

HF: Ben Ainsworth

9

Ben Ainsworth

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.6

3star

, Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

, Francis Evans
F: Lachy Dovaston, Hudson O'Keeffe*, Will Hayward

9

Will Hayward

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

9.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

Bench/depth:
Kemp (or another mature age recruit) to step-in once he's over his injuries. O'Keeffe also handy as a forward/ruck moving forward.

Moir - can play HFF or third tall, but would love to see him keep having a crack at the midfield too.

Motlop - with a few others taking opposition attention, could be handy this year.

 

[bradfisher14]

Poor man's Watson is a fairly apt comparison for mine. Plays very similar to Watson but not as gifted athletically and isn't as skilled imo.

He'd definitely be an improvement on some of our small forwards stocks but when comparing him to Butler, Neocleous and Prasad next year he doesn't really stick out as an enticing prospect for me.

I'd trade 9+11 for Butler in a heartbeat if he were in this draft. Elite speed, elite strength for a small, huge leap, tough as anything too and kicks bags on the regular.

That's fair. I can't see a way for us to nab an elite prospect in next season's draft unless us and Sydney finish bottom 3. Hence why I'm keen to bring in Dovaston now while we have the chance.

 

[Jimmae]

Suspected you may have been an early adopter

No, but every time I use a semicolon the accusations roll in

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Dovaston would complete our modern forward update.

HF: Ben Ainsworth, Harry McKay, Francis Evans
F: Lachy Dovaston, Hudson O'Keeffe*, Will Hayward

Bench/depth:
Kemp (or another mature age recruit) to step-in once he's over his injuries. O'Keeffe also handy as a forward/ruck moving forward.

Moir - can play HFF or third tall, but would love to see him keep having a crack at the midfield too.

Motlop - with a few others taking opposition attention, could be handy this year.

Little Neo in next year's draft is better than Dovaston...

Will we have a pick high enough to draft him though... I'm not sure...

 

[AT97]

Poor man's Watson is a fairly apt comparison for mine. Plays very similar to Watson but not as gifted athletically and isn't as skilled imo.

He'd definitely be an improvement on some of our small forwards stocks but when comparing him to Butler, Neocleous and Prasad next year he doesn't really stick out as an enticing prospect for me.

I'd trade 9+11 for Butler in a heartbeat if he were in this draft. Elite speed, elite strength for a small, huge leap, tough as anything too and kicks bags on the regular.

Could you please give me your opinion on phillipou.

 

[GoBlues!]

If I'm to take you literally there, no, we would trade back and take further value in this or another draft through the points discount.

Your* strategy is not a strategy at all.

I wasn’t actually proposing it as a strategy Jimmae, I was responding to Blue Tongue’s specific query - what would we do with Pick 9 if Dean got there without being bid on.

“My dilemma is that if Dean makes it to our Pick 9 without a bid, will we use it on him, or Run the Gauntlet that Hawks wont use Pick 10 on him and we take him with 11.”

While you’ve presented a trade back strategy which is fine, you haven’t really considered the context of BTs question about what would we do with pick 9 if we still had it.

 

[No1Suspect]

Do you mean to trade up and then trade that pick out? Which is still really only 2 of those things because you wouldn’t be keeping the higher pick.
And that would seem to be an inefficient way of trading, because we’d have to lose points currency to get up. Would be better off trading one of our 1sts for a F1 and hopefully a little bonus, and trade our other one down for points.

Yep, trade up for a higher pick plus later picks, then with that higher pick offer it up for a swap next year plus some later picks, then try and draft Dean and Ison with the leftovers... good in theory, but being able to execute it seems almost impossible.
Just my preference for our situation

 

[ctwenty1]

Yep, trade up for a higher pick plus later picks, then with that higher pick offer it up for a swap next year plus some later picks, then try and draft Dean and Ison with the leftovers... good in theory, but being able to execute it seems almost impossible.
Just my preference for our situation

really comes back to what the club want out of this year's draft

If they end up with dean and ison only (or a third late one) but have another pick next year (ideally F1 or likely ealry F2) then I'd be happy