List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[stavro#4]

I somewhat agree on Saints, certainly they are going for it though, just think it'll be too much of a risk for us to bother with.

The player we are heavily linked with is Jevan Phillipou and Twomey in Gettable today was saying he is looking at sliding out to the 20s.

Highly doubt we are sending anyone an F1 for one of those picks. I would imagine we would be looking at multiple 2nd/3rd/4th rounders.

 

[Goomba1973]

Insights from Twomey's latest phantom form guide.

Top end:
Open draft top 8 locks are Duursma, CDT, Robey, Taylor, and almost definitely Cumming...
But not Sharp who was even linked to our Pick #13 if he gets past Essendon and Hawthorn (crucially, Melbourne not mentioned), nor Grlj who was linked to GWS. Schubert a chance to go into the 20s if Bombers don't snap him up. Farrow not linked to us directly but has interest from Bombers, Dees, Hawks, and Giants so sliding to our third pick very unlikely unless we trade up to #9.

Beyond that:
Lindsay's starting point is Hawks pick.
Dovaston only linked to Melbourne as far as the higher picks are concerned but even that is considered "a bit early." Would be stoked to land him at #9 but perhaps #13 is a better chance than anticipated.
No link between us and Pickett.
NHH not linked to any higher picks.
Addinsall a possibility for us, do we bid early on Uwland and Patterson so that we can snap him up at #13?

My best guess at this stage:
WC Duursma
WC CDT
RICH Robey
RICH Taylor
ESS Cumming
ESS Farrow
MELB Grlj
MELB Dovaston/Pickett
WCE (if we trade up) Sharp

Yep, that's right, we're getting Duursma, CDT and Sharp. In all honesty, I think this is very possible, I can't see Melbourne selecting Sharp after taking Langford last year and I feel Richmond like him but not as much as other options at the pointy end, so it all hinges on whether or not Essendon snap him up but I suspect they'll prioritise Cumming and there's every chance they pick Farrow, Schubert, Grlj etc. before Sharp with #6.

With Josh Smillie having the injury issues he is having ( won't be back to full training till Feb and probably won't play till mid season) I think they will be much more interested in Sharp than they were before.

 

[maxrm]

With Josh Smillie having the injury issues he is having ( won't be back to full training till Feb and probably won't play till mid season) I think they will be much more interested in Sharp than they were before.

You may be right, but probably not to the extent that he forces his way into their long-established four targets (assuming we go Duffma) in Robey, Taylor, Grlj and Cumming. Personally suspect they go the first two, Bombers take Cumming + Farrow or Sharp, and Dees take a combo of Grlj or Farrow if available, maybe Sharp, Dovaston a chance, or a bit of a surprise in Nairn or Pickett.

If one of the initial invitees to opening draft night make it to #9 I really hope we can trade up, otherwise I'd probably prefer we just sit back and see who makes it to our selection. Happy to trade into next year for Saints F1 if they come hard for Phillipou, too. Another Harley who also happens to be a Baker wouldn't hurt either, we can afford to let him recover next year and hopefully have a big 2027. And I believe Pickett is also big chance at #13, which I have mixed feelings about. Seems early but I'd back the recruiting team in to get it right.

 

[bzparkes]

With Josh Smillie having the injury issues he is having ( won't be back to full training till Feb and probably won't play till mid season) I think they will be much more interested in Sharp than they were before.

I wouldn't have thought so. They're not drafting for next year.

They don't have any reported interest in Sharp from any mainstream sources. The only consistent is Taylor and whoever we don't take out of CDT/Robey.

 

[eaglespremiers]

My mates son plays footy with CDT, reckons he’s well loved around the club and his team mates love him. Has a very good character from what he told me so that’s a plus I guess.



KOLOKOTRONIS

Good to know people will actually attend his 21st birthday.

 

[Elite Pete]

Delisted crow Harry Schoenberg coming your way- rejected a date from a friend of mine because he's "moving to Perth pretty soon"

Started following the Eagles on Insta so lock it in.

Harry vs ? (Berry) in the SSP showdown as our last rookie spot.

Seem to be a key defender/ruck short unless magnets are getting moved.

 

[bzparkes]

Wonderful we intend to fill the inside mid spot with Greg Clarks. If you collect them all one of them is bound to be good is the dumbass logic of the club

We'll never know, because Greg Clark never actually played inside for us..

 

[Forward Press]

Started following the Eagles on Insta so lock it in.

Harry vs ? (Berry) in the SSP showdown as our last rookie spot.

Seem to be a key defender/ruck short unless magnets are getting moved.

Played 22 in his second season (including a Rising Star nomination), then 5 in his last two. Still only 24. I guess we could do worse, not like we have a lot of star players wanting to come here.

 

[bzparkes]

Koby Evans on SEN this morning.

Apparently quite close with Mini already, although he played it down a fair bit.

 

[Goomba1973]

I wouldn't have thought so. They're not drafting for next year.

They don't have any reported interest in Sharp from any mainstream sources. The only consistent is Taylor and whoever we don't take out of CDT/Robey.

It's just a thought as they drafted Smillie and an inside bull / extractor and now he has a question mark over his head. There is no better inside mid in this draft except maybe Annabel but he is club tied.

 

[bzparkes]

It's just a thought as they drafted Smillie and an inside bull / extractor and now he has a question mark over his head. There is no better inside mid in this draft except maybe Annabel but he is club tied.

Issue is you can't change your whole future list management strategy based off one bloke getting an injury in his second preseason.

Either player would need to be more versatile for them to have both at such high picks, IMO.

 

[Elite Pete]

Played 22 in his second season (including a Rising Star nomination), then 5 in his last two. Still only 24. I guess we could do worse, not like we have a lot of star players wanting to come here.

Yeah especially as a train on most likely.

I did hear he was likely heading to the Power as a rookie but that must of fell through or picked a more likely to get a game option.

 

[Goomba1973]

You may be right, but probably not to the extent that he forces his way into their long-established four targets (assuming we go Duffma) in Robey, Taylor, Grlj and Cumming. Personally suspect they go the first two, Bombers take Cumming + Farrow or Sharp, and Dees take a combo of Grlj or Farrow if available, maybe Sharp, Dovaston a chance, or a bit of a surprise in Nairn or Pickett.

If one of the initial invitees to opening draft night make it to #9 I really hope we can trade up, otherwise I'd probably prefer we just sit back and see who makes it to our selection. Happy to trade into next year for Saints F1 if they come hard for Phillipou, too. Another Harley who also happens to be a Baker wouldn't hurt either, we can afford to let him recover next year and hopefully have a big 2027. And I believe Pickett is also big chance at #13, which I have mixed feelings about. Seems early but I'd back the recruiting team in to get it right.

If Dovidson is there are 13 I'd take him. We have a lacklustre batch of small forwards, none of which seem to have much mongrel about them. I just think the Smillie issue might get Richmond to get the white board marker out. They picked a couple of gun mid forwards last year ( Lalor and Hotton ) so I think definitely Taylor and Grlj have the need aspect covered, but Sharp does as well. Think Dusty had Prestia , Lalor might have Sharp. I think he fits the need a bit more than Robey and Cummings.

 

[Goomba1973]

Issue is you can't change your whole future list management strategy based off one bloke getting an injury in his second preseason.

Either player would need to be more versatile for them to have both at such high picks, IMO.

Normally I would agree, but with Richmond's massive haul last year , they can afford to hedge their bets. A player like Sharp to pair up with Lalor (think Dusty and Prestia) is not a bad future list strategy.

 

[Wce17]

If Nairn goes to melbourne with 7 or 8 thats gonna throw a massive curveball into the draft order.

That & bidding on Dean at 2 means we'd have a couple more players to pick from at 13

 

[PRANKSTER666]

I'm starting to worry we will somehow lose the draft armed with picks 1 & 2.

If Clarke is in fact a sleeper agent for Richmond as some suspect, perhaps he will pull the trigger on Wes Walley and Charlie Banfield at 1 and 2 leaving Richmond to take Duursma and CDT?

 

[Chris_6678]

I'm starting to worry we will somehow lose the draft armed with picks 1 & 2.

If Clarke is in fact a sleeper agent for Richmond as some suspect, perhaps he will pull the trigger on Wes Walley and Charlie Banfield at 1 and 2 leaving Richmond to take Duursma and CDT?

Look as long as we pick 2 actual players with Pick 1 & 2 it is a win and if it ends up being those 2 mentioned then we are on a roll.

 

[bzparkes]

Normally I would agree, but with Richmond's massive haul last year , they can afford to hedge their bets. A player like Sharp to pair up with Lalor (think Dusty and Prestia) is not a bad future list strategy.

Was it really a massive haul though? Sure, they brought in a few blokes but they have bugger all coming in this year. Reckon they'll just pick who they think is best available. They also need players with speed, which is why they reportedly had such an interest in Grlj.

Sharp doesn't really fit what they're supposedly looking for. If they didn't have Smillie last year, I could see it but they have Hopper and Taranto for a few more years yet and Sharp would be directly competing with Smillie for a senior spot. There's no way you'd play both at the same time around stoppage.

 

[BSD]

Seems Duursma and CDT are locks

Farrow, Cumming unlikely at 13

If we can get one of Sharp, Grjl or Dovaston at 13 that would be the dream

Or trade up with Carlton to 9 if Sharp or Grjl are still there

With Pick 39 Collingwood select Fred Rodrigues from The South Fremantle Football Club

 

[kane249]

We'll never know, because Greg Clark never actually played inside for us..

He did, albeit in limited time, but was thoroughly out classed when he did

People need to get over the obsession with Clark, good WAFL player and nothing more.

 

[beagles]

Interesting that we we're only linked to Addinsall after picks 1 & 2. If the bids went as expected, would GCS match a bid for him at 13?

Is our interest in Dean to exhaust points so they can’t match a bid on Jack Ison. He looks pretty good

 

[Doashuey]

Is our interest in Dean to exhaust points so they can’t match a bid on Jack Ison. He looks pretty good

IF we bid on Dean at 2 or 3, that would eat up their pick 9 and push their pick 11 back several spots. Which brings our Pick 13 up two spots (ignoring the pick that is used to bid on Dean) leaving us with 2 additional options to choose from. Its why I still think we are a strong chance to trade 13 + something into 9 with a guarantee not to bid on him.

 

[Goomba1973]

Is our interest in Dean to exhaust points so they can’t match a bid on Jack Ison. He looks pretty good

I'd rather go with Riley Onley than Ison. IMO he has far more upside , someone just needs to get him to be more of a two way player and use his size to be more combative.

 

[Convocation]

Conversation between Duff and Adam Jones re WA Draft Talent

Some Quotes

Koby Evans - "I think west coast will get an absolute bargain, because I feel he would have been our first round consideration if he had had a good run at it this year"
"Kobe is a little bit different, because he hasn't had much footy on his belt this year, so clubs might be a little bit less reluctant to bid on him, even though, if I was a club, I'd be, I'd be certainly putting a bid on him"

Charlie Banfield - "Charlie banfields finish to the season, I think, has really elevated his standing and cemented himself as a genuine draft prospect. So I won't be surprised if there's a bit on him"

Cooper Ramsay
Duff - "If there's one player from WA you think he's being completely underrated, and therefore may be the bolter in this draft. Who would you say that is"
Adam - "Confidently say Cooper Ramsey, who's missed the year with stress fractures and shin and feet. He would be a top 30 picks, in my view, and he only played two games for the year. He's a tall, developing Ruckman who's going to take time anyway. He's the one that if a club was willing to take a punt on him as a rookie pick, the reward that you could get down the track could be enormous. So we try to push his case, not sure if he'll get there, but if he doesn't get selected, he's certainly going to be in our summer program and 8h program for next year"

 

[Goomba1973]

Was it really a massive haul though? Sure, they brought in a few blokes but they have bugger all coming in this year. Reckon they'll just pick who they think is best available. They also need players with speed, which is why they reportedly had such an interest in Grlj.

Sharp doesn't really fit what they're supposedly looking for. If they didn't have Smillie last year, I could see it but they have Hopper and Taranto for a few more years yet and Sharp would be directly competing with Smillie for a senior spot. There's no way you'd play both at the same time around stoppage.

Yeah IMO it was a massive haul. To the point Richmond were open to trade out one of their picks this year for a late first this year and another 1st next year. Don Prestia is 33 and he is that middle mongrel that Richmond love and need, Sharp is a walk in replacement for him more so than competing against Smillie.