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Game Day The 2025 Draft Day Thread

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And a song to sing as we watch,

Hey Matty Clarke by Kevin (Random260) Wilson :

Hey Matty Clarke you campaigner, where the **** is Sharp
I’ve looked at all these other spuds and there’s no one that I like
I wrote you a ****ing letter and posted about it twice
You dopey ****ing Richmond fart, you forgot my ****ing Sharp

If I wanted a stupid ruckman type, I would’ve bloody asked
And this half back flank and temu mid, you can shove right up your arse
You’ve stuffed the bloody order up, it’s enough to make you spew
But it’s not just me who’s snakey, SGIO is dirty too

Next time I come to see ya, I’m going to punch you in the guts
And I’ll sack the other recruiting knobs and kick Toddy in the nuts
You just wait 'til next year when you go back to the draft
And me and me little GIO come stomping through the door
And we'll say, yeah, you wait for it

Hey Pyke and Woosh you smell his breath
And check his bloodshot eyes
And don't listen to him eagles fans 'cause he tells ****ing lies
He's just a ****ing useless campaigner and he's not even very bright
'Cause the stupid ****in' w***er, forgot me ****in' Sharp

Hey Matty Clarke you campaigner, where the **** is Sharp
I’ve looked at all these other spuds and there’s no one that I like
I wrote you a ****ing letter and posted about it twice
You dopey ****ing Richmond fart, you forgot my ****ing Sharp
A Quick Ai rendition: https://suno.com/s/blQP3cSnulhqYb5g
It's funny how it interrupted the lyrics XD
 
The draft gradings are so stupid either way. It’s something you judge in 5 years time. The strategy is another thing and hopefully Cals article might have some intel into why we did certain things because there are plenty of questions and we ain’t going to get answers out of the club.
Maybe, but the trade of that future 2nd to move up one spot in the draft, do double unsuccessful bids doesn't look great (particularly with the responses from our team captured on camera) and really only can be justified if we were certain that Hawthorn was going to take Lindsay (or trade to some other team who would've taken Lindsay in front of us). Otherwise it was a bit of a head scratcher.
Ditto the lack of a Patterson bid at the start.
On the evidence, our draft day team just ain’t that smart when compared to the other clubs brains trust.

Couple this with Woosha who scraped over the line in 2006 with a generational midfield, presided over the implosion of the club and was moved on pretty quickly from the Bombers and Pyke (BTW was a knob at Uni college) who orchestrated the unmitigated disaster at the Crows, we seem to have filled the club with meh leaders.
 
That dual premiership player that just signed a four year deal with the wooden spooners should prove himself in number 47 before being allowed to choose his number.
Nothing in post insinuated Starce having to prove himself.

Heck he should have been pushed in the direction of wearing 5 cause of who wore that before Hunt
 
if our recruiters pick a dud they get canned ! If they pick a jet they are only picking by No’s . Can’t win!
Lindsay gets boot to ball so quickly and generally to the right place. Gun!
Our recruiting has been top notch for the last couple of years. Bo is certainly not lost. If he gets his body right and has a big preseason I think we’ll erect statues to our recruitment team.
Great defence ,great key forwards ,wings covered,Archer rucking or anywhere in the spine.Maybe another mid ( Gross/Bo ) and definitely small forwards.Maric /Hutch mid size forwards.
CDT?
I expect us to launch late in the season and win a few unwinnable games.
Stop stressing the pissant stuff and look at what’s right in front of you!!
 
Nothing in post insinuated Starce having to prove himself.

Heck he should have been pushed in the direction of wearing 5 cause of who wore that before Hunt

Then I don't understand what you would've preferred.
 

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Based on your views, surely if Evans would have been picked ahead of Angove in a stronger draft last year, he would have been taken a lot earlier than pick 38 in a more compromised draft this year. Other players with long term injuries were taken before Evans. All things considered it seems club recruitment teams did not rate Evans and Banfield as highly a few posters here.

You know the draft is just an aggregate of every clubs own rankings in a very specific order?
 
I know its early but I love who massey has picked the last 2 years. Picks the best available talent. His drafting will get us back up the top. The pieman speculative picks like burgiel and chesser are hopefully a thing of the past.
****ing lol, neither of those were speculative, Chesser went maybe 5 picks early and Burgiel was rated higher than were he was drafted.
 
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On the evidence, our draft day team just ain’t that smart when compared to the other clubs brains trust.

Couple this with Woosha who scraped over the line in 2006 with a generational midfield, presided over the implosion of the club and was moved on pretty quickly from the Bombers and Pyke (BTW was a knob at Uni college) who orchestrated the unmitigated disaster at the Crows, we seem to have filled the club with meh leaders.
What evidence is there to support that the draft team aren't smart?

Putting the disappointment of Banfield and Evans to one side, our last three drafts have been strong. High quality kids coming through.
 
You think Evans gets drafted earlier than 24 in last years draft?

You are absolutely off your head mate.
Given you don't know how the draft works in the slightest, so I'll pose a simple question.

With GWS picks this year where does Cody Angove go in this year's draft?
 
What evidence is there to support that the draft team aren't smart?
There isn't any.

Some are just peeved that the son of a club legend was passed on, even though 2 other clubs did the same thing this draft.

The current team is still fixing up the mess inherited by the old mob, in regards to list balance, so they're going to have to make some unpopular choices along the way.

I was pissed about trading pick 3 last year but understand the rationale and circumstance behind it, even if I didn't agree. In the end, I feel like we didn't miss out on anything in the end, as the options around pick 3 aren't exactly players that'd have made much of a difference to our fortunes this year and if we didn't do that trade, perhaps we'd have gone differently with our next pick and missed out on Shanahan.
 
We will continue to improve.

Harley into his 3rd season after having a poor start to his 2nd. Ginbey, Hewett and Hall season 4.

Yeo and Waterman hopefully contribute more.

And we are adding 3 x 24 25 yr old mids to add experience and depth straight away into the midfield group. None are superstars but last season we literally ran out of mids late due to injuries.

Our depth and quality has improved. That should lead to improvements across the board.
Great post and with competition for spots it will lead to quick improvement.

Hough Edwards starcevich
McCarthy young ginbey

We now have a very strong backline with great depth in Duggan, Cole, baker, lindsay, grego, Johnston (this is hopefully his year as he is quite adept on both sides of his body and has good vision), Maric, b Allan, brock, bazzo etc

What I would like more of is consistent goal kickers and hopefully the likes of Hewett, brockman, shanahan, a Reid, Davis can lift our scoring in 2026.
 

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There isn't any.

Some are just peeved that the son of a club legend was passed on, even though 2 other clubs did the same thing this draft.

The current team is still fixing up the mess inherited by the old mob, in regards to list balance, so they're going to have to make some unpopular choices along the way.

I was pissed about trading pick 3 last year but understand the rationale and circumstance behind it, even if I didn't agree. In the end, I feel like we didn't miss out on anything in the end, as the options around pick 3 aren't exactly players that'd have made much of a difference to our fortunes this year and if we didn't do that trade, perhaps we'd have gone differently with our next pick and missed out on Shanahan.
Banfield wasn't 'passed on' though. Do you think we wouldn't have matched if we had the list spot available?
 
Given you don't know how the draft works in the slightest, so I'll pose a simple question.

With GWS picks this year where does Cody Angove go in this year's draft?
So your contention is that GWS specifically would have taken Evans at 24?

GWS would have traded into a pick if they wanted him, as they’ve done many times before, when they like a player they do whatever possible to take them.

No serious draft watcher would rate either Banfield or Evans in the top 50 of last draft.

You’ve got no clue.
 
We will continue to improve.

Harley into his 3rd season after having a poor start to his 2nd. Ginbey, Hewett and Hall season 4.

Yeo and Waterman hopefully contribute more.

And we are adding 3 x 24 25 yr old mids to add experience and depth straight away into the midfield group. None are superstars but last season we literally ran out of mids late due to injuries.

Our depth and quality has improved. That should lead to improvements across the board.
Just a nitpick but Clay Hall is actually the same age as Harley Reid. Will enter his 3rd season in 2026! Putting that into perspective makes his inside mid performances (especially in the WAFL) particularly impressive. Hopefully both him and Harley can enjoy a traditional '3rd Year Breakout' season and if so combined with the organic growth of such a young list and draftees this year will be exciting.
 
We will continue to improve.

Harley into his 3rd season after having a poor start to his 2nd. Ginbey, Hewett and Hall season 4.

Yeo and Waterman hopefully contribute more.

And we are adding 3 x 24 25 yr old mids to add experience and depth straight away into the midfield group. None are superstars but last season we literally ran out of mids late due to injuries.

Our depth and quality has improved. That should lead to improvements across the board.
Not just those 4 either, 15 of our round 24 team have natural development to come + Harley who didn’t play.

Add in the injured Yeo, Waterman, Starcevich, Young, our mature age mids, draftees, development from those outside the 23.

Take out Liam Ryan and regression from Kelly and Cripps.

It’s literally impossible we don’t significantly improve.
 
As you've mentioned, he has the final say as List Manager and therefore, the ultimate responsibility is with him.

If Brisbane used an F3 to nab Evans, that's a good enough indication to me that the kid is worth the risk.
Hell, one of the maniacs on here took him in the early 20's in a mock draft ;)

He's the one I think is going to come back and bite us for not taking.
We can bring him back in 2 yrs time if he shows a bit of talent but doesn't get much opportunities to play ..
 

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You know the draft is just an aggregate of every clubs own rankings in a very specific order?
Yes, and that is why Evans and Banfield went at the selections they did. If Evans would have gone ahead of Angove comfortably as you stated, surely a club would have selected him a lot earlier would they not? Or do you think your knowledge and rankings is better than most clubs?
 
On the evidence, our draft day team just ain’t that smart when compared to the other clubs brains trust.

Couple this with Woosha who scraped over the line in 2006 with a generational midfield, presided over the implosion of the club and was moved on pretty quickly from the Bombers and Pyke (BTW was a knob at Uni college) who orchestrated the unmitigated disaster at the Crows, we seem to have filled the club with meh leaders.
You have to blame the board for this... that's essentially their job. The amount of nepotism and boys club hires has been embarrassing for a while. No real success since cransberg was on the board
 

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