Test The Ashes Second Test December 4-8 1430hrs @ The Gabba

[TY24]

A lot are saying it’s his best ever?

How can it be when he’s done it against one of our big 4 bowlers. The two quicks that are missing are usually his downfall (averages 31 and 26 against Haze and Cummins respectively) and he’s done it in a pink ball test on an average Gabba wicket.

I get the pressure angle but purely from a sporting point of view he couldn’t really have asked for better circumstances.

Didn’t have to face his two worst matchups in good batting conditions. I’ll wait to see how he does when either of those 2 come back.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Fergus O'Neill is probably the best bowler in Shield cricket but will never get a look in because of his speed

120s or 130s?

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

120s or 130s?

Think he's high 120s

 

[MarcMaverick]

Think he's high 120s

Well unless he's moving it like Philander, don't see how he gets a spot.

 

[Saint]

The Australian press have enjoyed dining out on England's perceived arrogance.

But, regardless of ths match's result, I would consider the decision to drop Lyon to come from a similar vein of unwarranted arrogance and should be called out as such.

The way the Poms bat, they give their wicket away outside off, so why not just plonk it there all day and wait for them to dangle the bat. They've not really needed to bring on a spinner to break a partnership, the poms do that all by themselves.

Honestly, the way they don't move their foot across swish the bat and nick-out is embarrassing.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Well he must be doing something right to be averaging 21 with the ball in Shield cricket

 

[crows dude]

O'Neill has been regularly taking wickets

Taken four less than Perry this year. Plus he is only medium pace. Not many Adam Dales around these days playing international cricket.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Well he must be doing something right to be averaging 21 with the ball in Shield cricket

Or the batsmen are doing something wrong. Could be both.

 

[crows dude]

Well he must be doing something right to be averaging 21 with the ball in Shield cricket

Averages 23 this year. Perry averaging 18

 

[cats_09]

This comment was made yesterday regarding the speed Nesser was bowling in his opening spell - is there an easy way to check a bowlers average speed?

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Perry's having a good year but let's see him do it consistently

Look truth is Doggett earned his shot

 

[dumb]

I like Fergus, I'd be happy for him to get a go. But he has a touch of the Trent Copeland's about him. Sheer weight of wickets alone doesn't always translate to success at a higher level.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Copeland didn't even get a fair crack, three tests in Sri Lanka, pfft

But I hear what you're saying

 

[spike101]

What makes him a complete flog. You have an agenda against him doesn't make him a flog. That comment is usually reserved for the poster.

Maybe look at the way he treated the mother of his first two children as to the reason?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Poms would love another 30 odd here

 

[FreoRicci]

Poms would love another 30 odd here

Just keep Root on strike. He ll get 150. Handy 15 runs
From 2/5 to potentially 350+.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

The Australian press have enjoyed dining out on England's perceived arrogance.

But, regardless of ths match's result, I would consider the decision to drop Lyon to come from a similar vein of unwarranted arrogance and should be called out as such.

Agreed. You would have thought after the First Test that 5-0 was inevitable, judging from comments from people who should know better. It's been embarrassing. As for Lyon, I've posted this once before, but you should never go into a Test without a frontline spinner. Ever.

 

[jb04]

The last half hour will also give England enormous belief that they've got the Australian batters shook

I usually say this phrase with tongue in cheek but what happened last night was un-Australian.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Just keep Root on strike. He ll get 150. Handy 15 runs
From 2/5 to potentially 350+.

350 may be par but you always take the runs locked in the bank v the side yet to bat

 

[PhatBoy]

The way the Poms bat, they give their wicket away outside off, so why not just plonk it there all day and wait for them to dangle the bat. They've not really needed to bring on a spinner to break a partnership, the poms do that all by themselves.

Honestly, the way they don't move their foot across swish the bat and nick-out is embarrassing.

Well they tried that to Crawley and while he might have dodged a bullet with that murmur on Snicko and played and missed a few times, he also left better and dined out with some nice drives, and Root left, dabbed, and had no trouble whatsoever with dozens of balls put in those spots

And with Brook it is a trade off because if you keep bowling there you can get him but you WILL go for runs.

 

[t_94]

No.

I want to see sides bowl 90 overs.

There's a dozen ways they can speed things up.

I'll leave it to your vast intellect to work out a couple of the ways that can be done.

Bean counting, franchise supporter mindset on display here.

90 overs is completely arbitrary.

Test cricket is dying apart from three countries, yet the majority of people in this country don’t give that a second thought but spend an inordinate amount of time bleating on about over rates.

 

[Bedi]

Well he must be doing something right to be averaging 21 with the ball in Shield cricket

Half expecting him to get a look in this series as not convinced Hazlewood will get up

 

[Bedi]

And Hogg. ‘He will not succeed his technique won’t work.’

Not sure whether Hogg is more terrifying off or on field

 

[Zevon]

I'm very confident on this bet, have pretty much decided what I will do with my winnings.

That’s a very smart strategy, can’t see anything going wrong there at all.

 

[Daka]

Pat Cummins is a better captain than Smith overall.

Smith might be better in india where he has more experience but I feel like Cummins makes better decisions.

Smith is also the worst reviewer of DRS history.

They really need Cummins back to give Starc a chop out, Neser out Cummins in, Lyon in Doggett out for Adelaide.