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Test The Ashes Fourth Test December 26-30 1000hrs @ The MCG

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His chat with Dunstall was pretty good. Chief can be a cantankerous bastard with people he doesn't rate but the Fox connection with Howie made it a good listen
Agree he did well to crack through that prickly vaneer. Truth is i like all of his interviews (esp as his childhood hero was AB like mine), but found the Stuart Macgill and Dizzy interviews to pretty insightful
 
His captaincy against us in 05 was brilliant. Exploited all of our batsmen's weaknesses and had the cattle to execute to perfection. Still regard that series as the greatest cricket ever played

Yeah that was the best test cricket series I've seen, so many great players with Vaughan, Ponting, Warne, Flintoff and a young KP.

Every test was epic, so much drama, it would be hard to beat that for a test cricket series.
 

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Most openers ask for a night watchman when there is only one over to go. Not Scotty Boland, though, he's the real deal. Waddaman.
 
Scotty should have asked Jake Weatherald to protect him from the new ball until tomorrow
He doesn't do that sort of thing. He goes out in his designated spot and faces whatever music he is asked to dance to.
 
I didn't notice what was happening as I was watching it live, but the retrospectives over the last 20 years never cease to be eye opening.
Flintoff was off tap. I vaguely remember Lee bowling an amazing spell somewhere and copying his celebrations and the crowd going mental. Most of the memories now are through clips here and there. I’d only just hooked up with a girl at the time and spent night after night in the other room hooked on the entire series. Amazing she stuck around
 
Flintoff was off tap. I vaguely remember Lee bowling an amazing spell somewhere and copying his celebrations and the crowd going mental. Most of the memories now are through clips here and there. I’d only just hooked up with a girl at the time and spent night after night in the other room hooked on the entire series. Amazing she stuck around
Everything and everyone came second to that series. Was as gripping as any sporting event i can remember
 

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Having had a look at this pitch, there has been extravagant (if inconsistent) movement, but the pitch itself isn't as two-paced as the SCG one from 2024/25 or that Gabba nightmare from 2022/23.

So what gives? There has been some very good bowling and some ordinary batting, but that wouldn't normally ensure a 20-wicket day, I wouldn't think?
 
AVERAGE SEAM MOVEMENT DAY 1 OF THE SERIES

Perth: 0.66 degrees

Brisbane: 0.60 degrees

Adelaide: 0.50 degrees

Melbourne: 0.83 degrees
 

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I can't help but feel the curators have been getting the MCG pitch wrong for a very long time now. Diminishes the event.

Day 1 - some life early generally good to bat on
Days 2-3 - should be good to bat on
Days 4-5 - pitch deteriorates and spinners come into the game

That should be the the Test pitch.. not hard.
 
The whole marketing/business side of bazball and the barmy army are not mutually exclusive I feel. I read somewhere that they think they are the protagonist, and that's the big problem.
I've done my fair share of backpacking around the world and the ability to be independent and free on the other side of the world is what's genuinely enticing for me. Travelling is an opportunity to break free from the structures that we live - working Mon-Fri, playing or going to sport on the weekend, people dictating where you need to be and how long you need to be there, commitments to friends and family.

I honestly don't see the appeal of being part of a group like that - you're just getting more of the same of your home life, a commitment to a group of people. Yeah, go with a friend and watch the games to support England, but do so to really embrace the idea that you're in a foreign country with new and exciting experiences. If you're part of the Barmy Army, to me, you're an uninteresting person who gets more comfort in doing something that's acceptable and understandable to your life back home, rather than thrilling and exciting is new.

It's not as if buying flights, accommodation and tickets in Australia is all that difficult should to be an Englishman travelling outside the Barmy Army.
 
I can't help but feel the curators have been getting the MCG pitch wrong for a very long time now. Diminishes the event.

In 2017-18 it was a total pudding.

In 2018-19 it was just flat.

In 2024-25 it was sporting, but still possible to make good totals on.

In 2025-26 we now apparently have extravagant seam movement.

The thing that puzzles me is that the GABBA 2022/23 & SCG 2024/25 pitches both facilitated considerable seam movement AND had more even (EDIT: uneven) bounce to boot, and yet neither led to 20 wicket days (the former came close, though). What gives?

There was some ordinary batting and some very good bowling, but surely that wasn't the only reason?
 
I can't help but feel the curators have been getting the MCG pitch wrong for a very long time now. Diminishes the event.
Yeah, I have no frame of reference for how many degrees of movement makes it "flat", "difficult to bat on", whatever.

But I suppose Adelaide on day 1 being flat and having 0.5 degrees of movement, and Perth being sporting (but not difficult to bat on, maybe slightly on the bowler side of friendly) being 0.66. Then Melbourne being 0.83 means the difference between it and Perth in terms of day 1 seam movement is approximately similar to Perth and Adelaide.

That is, Melbourne is harder to bat on at a similar amount that Perth was hard to bat on compared to Adelaide.

It seems to me that maybe 0.6-0.65 degrees of movement is ideal for a day 1 pitch that should deteriorate for day 5, so clearly 0.83 is ridiculous.
 

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