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Thanks all.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Its a multitude of reasons. Venezuela was moving into much closer economic and political alignment with China and Russia, which raised serious concerns For the US. From the U.S. perspective, Venezuela’s growing ties with these rival powers represented a strategic threat, particularly given the country’s oil reserves and its position in the Western Hemisphere.

Do you get paid to write their press releases?

 

[pjcrows]

Do you get paid to write their press releases?

Unless ChatGPT costs money to use now, then no.

 

[10571z]

Do you get paid to write their press releases?

I could just say, “Trump wanted their oil” but that’s an overly simplistic take on what was really a much broader strategic calculation by the United States.

The issue wasn’t just about resource it was about influence, leverage, and long term positioning in the Americas.

 

[Gough]

I could just say, “Trump their oil” but that’s an overly simplistic take on what was really a much broader strategic calculation by the United States.

The issue wasn’t just about resource it was about influence, leverage, and long term positioning in the Americas.

Trump doesn't think further ahead than tomorrow.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I could just say, “Trump wanted their oil” but that’s an overly simplistic take on what was really a much broader strategic calculation by the United States.

The issue wasn’t just about resource it was about influence, leverage, and long term positioning in the Americas.

Hold up man, as if trump pays overtime.

 

[CD Xbow]

Sure mate, and George Clooney banged me last night.

Was he good?
Are the stories true?
Did he make you an Nespresso?

 

[Seeds]

Lol “identity supporters”.

You can’t give the specifics of one example, can you.

The only impactful idenitarian movement in the US is the white nationalist one which has led to terrorising of undocumented communities and probided support for fascist imperialism. White identitarians are parroting the Monroe doctrine as justification for this imperialism.

But sorry, some loca libraries have some diversity targets. Please tell us more

I literally just gave you one. If you want the technical term Executive Order 14035, but sure feel free to ignore it. I also clarified that it wasnt in reference to the Biden government but the people within the party now. But again ignore that point to. And i never said anything about impactful or not. Thats just you responding to a point I never raised.

 

[The Sultan]

It’s the last gasp from an economy reliant solely on oil….. for its currency and its security…
Meanwhile the majority of the world isn’t abandoning Net zero and is full steam ahead with cheaper, decentralised renewables…
Luckily most US policies are controlled by the individual states… FMD even Texas is a leader in renewables.

not just the oil but the fact that USD is what majority of trade is done in. less trade decreases the demand.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I literally just gave you one. If you want the technical term Executive Order 14035, but sure feel free to ignore it. I also clarified that it wasnt in reference to the Biden government but the people within the party now. But again ignore that point to. And i never said anything about impactful or not. Thats just you responding to a point I never raised.

Yeah it’s so extreme, most liberal democracies have some form of it. Hell plenty of private businesses have this as a policy.

The existence of white nationalism makes DEI a justified policy. It’s not extreme. It’s a policy designed to address historical and existing discrimination.

Only a racist would see this as extreme.

 

[rumply]

 

[Seeds]

I would ban all private ownership and advertising funding from the media.

Each citizen aged over 15 would be given a dollar credit from the government (say 1000 dollars each) per year which they could donate to their own media firm of choice to keep them funded. The people would have equal vote on where media funding came from.

I would also tighten regulation on fake news reporting and fact claims within opinion pieces. Admittedly this is a far bigger problem on social media. On social media i would make any poster with over 5000 followers compliant to the same regulatory rules as the traditional media. Social media companies also wouldnt be responsible for setting the terms of fake news. This would come from an independent government body that would then impose the rules on social media.

 

[10571z]

I would ban all private ownership and advertising funding from the media.

Each citizen aged over 15 would be given a dollar credit from the government (say 1000 dollars each) per year which they could donate to their own media firm of choice to keep them funded. The people would have equal vote on where media funding came from.

I would also tighten regulation on fake news reporting and fact claims within opinion pieces. Admittedly this is a far bigger problem on social media. On social media i would make any poster with over 5000 followers compliant to the same regulatory rules as the traditional media. Social media companies also wouldnt be responsible for setting the terms of fake news. This would come from an independent government body that would then impose the rules on social media.

That’s great in theory, but whoever monitors it always has a political agenda and decides what “fake” is.

 

[rumply]

 

[UltraEgo]

 

[faible]

found this in one of my feeds

I’ve been watching an absolutely heroic amount of pearl-clutching lately from people who insist that J.D. Vance would somehow be “worse” than Trump once Trump’s inevitable political and biological expiration arrives.

Let’s get something straight: it has never been about Trump, not for one second.
Trump is just the mascot. The real story is the people who finally saw themselves in him and felt validated by what they saw.

I actually believe most of them will drift away when the cult collapses, like embarrassed fans of a one-hit wonder. Many of them will swear they were never really into him at all. The MAGA amnesia is going to be epic.
I used to wonder how it was possible that Trump could have won in 2016 and then again in 2024, given how emotionally toxic, morally vacant, and psychologically mangled he is.

I don’t wonder anymore.
I think he won for that exact reason.

He wasn’t a candidate. He was a mirror.

If you were a racist, you found your guy.
If you were a misogynist, you found your guy.
If money was your only religion, you found your guy.
If your heart was armored shut, you found your guy.
If you mocked disabled people, you found your guy.
If you hated intelligent people, you found your guy.
If you were a rapist, you found your guy.
If you enjoyed golden showers with Russian sex workers, you found your guy.
If you’d done absolutely nothing to confront your emotional wreckage, you found your guy.
If you were a serial cheater, you found your guy.
If you were a perpetual bankrupt, you found your guy.
If you stiffed honest workers, you found your guy.
If you were a conman, you found your guy.
If you mocked people’s appearances, you found your guy.
If you longed for a toxic Daddy, you found your guy.
If you were dissociated and disembodied, you found your guy.
If you were unconscionable in every economic dealing, you found your guy.
If you lied as naturally as breathing, you found your guy.
If you’d never eaten a green vegetable, you found your guy.
If you were a white supremacist, you found your guy.
If your ego contained a hole so large not even the presidency could fill it, you found your guy.
If you were a sociopath who cared not one molecule about other humans, you found your guy.

If he had only two of these traits, he never would have won. He won because he had hundreds of them, and millions of people recognized themselves in at least one.

This has never been about Trump. It has always been about the people who finally had their worst instincts validated.
Trump didn’t create the cruelty, he licensed it. He handed out permission slips for hate.

He is merely a symptom of a far deeper disease: collective toxicity.

If there is one sentence that explains Trump’s power, it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.”
That’s the part that should chill the spine.

Who knew that tens of millions of Americans were thinking such unconscionable things about their fellow citizens? Who knew how many white men felt so threatened by women and challenged by minorities that they were ready to torch democracy to feel big again? Who knew that after decades of apparent progress on race and gender, so many people were living in seething resentment, waiting for a demagogue to legitimize their worst selves and convert their bitterness into political power?

Perhaps we were living in a fool’s paradise.
We aren’t anymore."

– Michael Jochum,
Not Just a Drummer: Reflections on Art, Politics, Dogs, and the Human Condition.

Can't remember who said it, but I recall a comment that if you took the single worst thing every other President did, Trump has done all of them, and worse.

 

[UltraEgo]

USA is the new axis of evil

 

[faible]

Its a multitude of reasons. Venezuela was moving into much closer economic and political alignment with China and Russia, which raised serious concerns For the US. From the U.S. perspective, Venezuela’s growing ties with these rival powers represented a strategic threat, particularly given the country’s oil reserves and its position in the Western Hemisphere.

Doesn't sound very free and democratic.

 

[UltraEgo]

Looking forward to seeing 10571z trying to defend this

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump...reenland-us-military-is-always-an-2026-01-06/

 

[Deliverance]

Does Trump get to collect Biden's $25 million dollar bounty placed on Maduro in January 2025? Later that year, the reward was increased to $50 million under Trump. "I guess we save $50 million," said Marco Rubio. They obviously agreed on something! Biden also stated in 1989 that these dictators and drug lords will be sought out in their own backyard if need be.

Biden didn't place the bounty, he increased it.

 

[madmug]

Teals. This is what the Teals were, green leaning right wingers who traditionally voted Liberal, who abandoned them when they made being anti green their whole persona.

If they're leaning left wing Greens, why didn't they join the Greens then? They have environmentalist leanings. not left socioeconomic leanings

 

[RCAB]

Yeah it’s so extreme, most liberal democracies have some form of it. Hell plenty of private businesses have this as a policy.

The existence of white nationalism makes DEI a justified policy. It’s not extreme. It’s a policy designed to address historical and existing discrimination.

Only a racist would see this as extreme.

Have a look at his avatar, that's all you need to know.

He's also been intellectually dishonest (for someone who just posted that he only cares about the truth), when he said that the sanctions imposed by the US have had little impact on Venezuela.

He's either ignorant, a compulsive liar or both.

 

[Zidane98]

You are ill informed…. Battery power density is increasing to point now that Aircraft are starting to be produced. We will have electric commercial aircraft within 5-10 years. Safer and more reliable.
Tasmania is producing massive ferries. Electric ships are a no brainer.


That’s the thing about china… we basically hear nothing about their technological advancements …..

Germany and Europe is full of electric trucks…. China is now mass producing them at an extraordinary rate… cheaper to build and cheaper to run.


Melbourne to Sydney is a perfect distance for electric trucks… 1 mandatory stop for charging.

I hate to break it to you but here are the facts:

Jet fuel energy density: https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/EvelynGofman.shtml

Between 43-48mj kg

Li-Ion Battery energy density: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

• 0.46 - 0.72 MJ/kg: Common commercial range.
• 0.54 - 0.9 MJ/kg: Modern cells often fall here (equivalent to 150-250 Wh/kg)

A fully fueled A320 commercial contains 23,000kg of jet fuel:

Airbus A320 family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This equates to 989,000 MJ of energy stored in jet fuel on a fully fueled A320.

You need 43 x that in battery power right now with the very best battery technology around just to break even with energy of a fully fueled A320.

Converting it to battery energy sees 1,100,000kg of Li-Ion battery energy being required (going off the very best available in battery technology right now) The heaviest A320 series aircraft has a MTOW of 93,000kg.




We won't be seeing battery powered commercial airliners in our lifetimes the size of an A320/737 or bigger. Battery technology is improving but not by a factor of x 43.



Maybe within 30-50 years a 20 seat commuter aircraft with a range of 1000kms or less might happen if we're lucky.


This equation is even worse for massive cargo ships which weigh up to 236,000T. These will be ICE powered for the next 200 years minimum.

 

[10571z]

Looking forward to seeing 10571z trying to defend this

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump...reenland-us-military-is-always-an-2026-01-06/

It wouldn’t be good to see the United States invade Greenland, and I agree with that concern. Hopefully, the language being used is simply leverage aimed at negotiating some form of deal.

From a strategic standpoint, it’s understandable why the U.S. would want Greenland, but ultimately it isn’t theirs to take.

Russia and Chinas presence in the Arctic sea is rising and that can’t be ignored. Is NATO safer with USA controlling that region or China and Russia?

 

[Seeds]

That’s great in theory, but whoever monitors it always has a political agenda and decides what “fake” is.

To minimize this risk you have whats determined as fact using evidence based rules. Witnesses who are willing to defend what they saw under court rules, video evidence, scientific peer reviewed studies.

We already have this. We just dont apply it broadly enough.

 

[Frank Grimes]

USA is the new axis of evil

My concern is how the Greenland envoy representative openly references the Monroe Doctrine in a recent interview. I also heard it raised in other forums but can't recollect the exact ones as at the time I didn't know what the Monroe Doctrine is.

Monroe Doctrine is the ideology of dividing the world into 3 spheres of influence. The North/South America, Europe and Asia.

What this ideology means is one sphere of influence can not intervene or influence the other spheres.

I think the result of this ideology would be the super power within each geographical area (USA, Russia and China) having exclusive influence of all the other countries within that area, severely diminishing the smaller countries sovereignty. It forces the smaller country to be an ally or subservient to the super power of the region rather having their own autonomy to choose or determine their allies based on their free will and values.

I'm not sure where Africa and Australia would fall in this ideology. I'd imagine Europe and Asia based on geographical location.