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Pierre Poilievre: The most dangerous impact since Trumpism
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Voted Liberal yesterday. Haven't been impressed with them the past few years but am hopeful about Carney.
In Canada atm and it’s amazing how Trump has turned this Canadian election on its head in the course of just 3 months.
The Conservatives were heading for certain victory late last year, with the majority of the population wanting a change after 3 terms of Trudeau’s Liberals and issues such as crime, cost of living, corruption, and excessive government spending dominating discussion. Trudeau’s departure as PM and the appointment of a former banker in his place just seemed to confirm that.
But along comes Trump and Canadian anger at how he has treated their country and outgoing PM Trudea and his replacement Carney’s quick and strong response to that (as opposed to the Conservatives) has put the Liberals back as strong favourites.
The Conservative leader, Poilievre, has taken the Trump (and Dutton) line of cutting and government spending as a major policy attack and it has not gone down well. He’s since modified that into ‘refocusing government spending’ - for example, cutting off funding to the English-language services of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation but continue to fund its French-language service, which is much more popular. During the campaign, he has repeatedly said that he would turn the CBC English network headquarters into affordable housing.
It’s a Monday here when the official election takes place and like the US, voting is voluntary. Cable and traditional broadcast services have been full of election programming and the larger networks last night featured a replay of the leaders debate that was held over a week ago. There’s a lot of interest in this election and there’s a very strong anti-Trump focus in both French speaking cities like Montreal and the English speaking provinces and cities like Toronto and Vancouver. Expectations are for a near record voter turnout and a strong anti US/Trump influence - which will be to the Liberals (led by Mark Carney) benefit leading to them being returned. The New Democrat Party, led by Jagmet Singh, a centre left social democrat party is expected to get a surge in votes from liberal voters who are fed up with the Liberals.
Commentators are saying Canadian teams not doing so well in the NHL playoffs and in the baseball this week against US teams could also feed into voter anger against Trump and the US.
The Conservatives were heading for certain victory late last year, with the majority of the population wanting a change after 3 terms of Trudeau’s Liberals and issues such as crime, cost of living, corruption, and excessive government spending dominating discussion. Trudeau’s departure as PM and the appointment of a former banker in his place just seemed to confirm that.
But along comes Trump and Canadian anger at how he has treated their country and outgoing PM Trudea and his replacement Carney’s quick and strong response to that (as opposed to the Conservatives) has put the Liberals back as strong favourites.
The Conservative leader, Poilievre, has taken the Trump (and Dutton) line of cutting and government spending as a major policy attack and it has not gone down well. He’s since modified that into ‘refocusing government spending’ - for example, cutting off funding to the English-language services of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation but continue to fund its French-language service, which is much more popular. During the campaign, he has repeatedly said that he would turn the CBC English network headquarters into affordable housing.
It’s a Monday here when the official election takes place and like the US, voting is voluntary. Cable and traditional broadcast services have been full of election programming and the larger networks last night featured a replay of the leaders debate that was held over a week ago. There’s a lot of interest in this election and there’s a very strong anti-Trump focus in both French speaking cities like Montreal and the English speaking provinces and cities like Toronto and Vancouver. Expectations are for a near record voter turnout and a strong anti US/Trump influence - which will be to the Liberals (led by Mark Carney) benefit leading to them being returned. The New Democrat Party, led by Jagmet Singh, a centre left social democrat party is expected to get a surge in votes from liberal voters who are fed up with the Liberals.
Commentators are saying Canadian teams not doing so well in the NHL playoffs and in the baseball this week against US teams could also feed into voter anger against Trump and the US.
Hard to see Conservatives winning anywhere but the Prairies.
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spinynorman
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In Canada atm and it’s amazing how Trump has turned this Canadian election on its head in the course of just 3 months.
The Conservatives were heading for certain victory late last year, with the majority of the population wanting a change after 3 terms of Trudeau’s Liberals and issues such as crime, cost of living, corruption, and excessive government spending dominating discussion. Trudeau’s departure as PM and the appointment of a former banker in his place just seemed to confirm that.
But along comes Trump and Canadian anger at how he has treated their country and outgoing PM Trudea and his replacement Carney’s quick and strong response to that (as opposed to the Conservatives) has put the Liberals back as strong favourites.
The Conservative leader, Poilievre, has taken the Trump (and Dutton) line of cutting and government spending as a major policy attack and it has not gone down well. He’s since modified that into ‘refocusing government spending’ - for example, cutting off funding to the English-language services of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation but continue to fund its French-language service, which is much more popular. During the campaign, he has repeatedly said that he would turn the CBC English network headquarters into affordable housing.
It’s a Monday here when the official election takes place and like the US, voting is voluntary. Cable and traditional broadcast services have been full of election programming and the larger networks last night featured a replay of the leaders debate that was held over a week ago. There’s a lot of interest in this election and there’s a very strong anti-Trump focus in both French speaking cities like Montreal and the English speaking provinces and cities like Toronto and Vancouver. Expectations are for a near record voter turnout and a strong anti US/Trump influence - which will be to the Liberals (led by Mark Carney) benefit leading to them being returned. The New Democrat Party, led by Jagmet Singh, a centre left social democrat party is expected to get a surge in votes from liberal voters who are fed up with the Liberals.
Commentators are saying Canadian teams not doing so well in the NHL playoffs and in the baseball this week against US teams could also feed into voter anger against Trump and the US.
You think the NDP will surge? They got 18% last time and are polling to get around half that this time. It's a shame, I think this is Singh's best campaign (and best set of policies) thus far, but I think at this point he's probably a bit of a liability and not taken overly seriously.
Anyway, looks like Carney will win big and the opportunities will come when it turns out in a few months he's a Canadian Starmer who's not addressed any of the issues that made Trudeau so hated in the end (in fact, his policy changes have been to shift the party right - scrapping environmental regulations, changes to Capital Gains Tax that benefit the wealthy. Poilievre will lose so that's worth celebrating, but conditions remain ripe for 2029.
Should have included the fact Im just a visitor here.
My comments are based on my interpretation of what I’ve been able to glean from local media and a few locals without the benefit of being able to put a reality filter over it.
spinynorman
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Fair fair. Where are you and where’ve you been? I’d love to visit Quebec one day.
Quebec City, Montreal, Toronto, Niagara on the Lake and currently in Vancouver. Departing in a week.
All those cities have been enjoyable but yes the old section of Quebec City where we stayed has a Gallic charm that is well worth experiencing.
Previously visited Toronto for work almost 20 years ago but finally made it back to Canada for a holiday after a week in NYC.
And the Liberals have been re-elected btw according to TV reports broadcasting now (7:30 pm pacific time) - whether is a majority or minority govt is still to be decided.
Seats they are declaring thus far : Liberals 145/ Conservatives 113/ BQ 24/ NDP 5 of the 343 seats.
You were right - NDP flopped badly
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spinynorman
Norm Smith Medallist
There’s a Carney thread so can talk about it more there, but for here we can just say lol Poilievre, what a flop.
Pierre Poilievre lost his seat.
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre loses Ottawa-area seat
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has been defeated in Carleton, ending his nearly two-decade tenure as a member of Parliament in the Ottawa-area.
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Pierre Poilievre lost his seat.
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre loses Ottawa-area seat
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has been defeated in Carleton, ending his nearly two-decade tenure as a member of Parliament in the Ottawa-area.www.ctvnews.ca
Schadenfreudic Irony at it's best.
The bloke he idolised was responsible for his downfall.
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Fingers crossed the same happens here on Saturday.
Nailing your colours to the mast of a common gangster. What could possible go wrong, Pierre, Peter?
So ummm you went a little early here hey
To be fair, he would have romped it in against Trudeau. Think his post was before he stood down.
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