Player Watch #16 Josh Smillie - Updated TBC

[rammmbo]

Im not blaming Serpell anymore the players have to take accountability for blindly following his directions after clearly seeing his methods destroying muscles,bones,tendons and cartlidges.

 

[Boxo004]

**** me how’s the knocked draggers in this thread

 

[Forensi Tiger]

Wasn't mismanagement of the car. Just bad luck.

I am hearing it was the car’s lack of conditioning

 

[KrispyKreme]

I’d be keen to understand from the club, specifically the high performance team, why Josh is having repeated problems with his Quad. I don’t think it was an injury that impacted his junior career.

Consequently, is the injury linked to his latest growth spurt, or is it connected with the extra training load associated with a high performance program, or is there a bio-mechanical fault with how he runs, kicks or his general posture. It would be great if the club could offer a little more detail and present some of the medical evidence to explain this ongoing injury.

It’s cause his big. That’s what I got told from someone in RFC

 

[KrispyKreme]

yea we've never mismanaged a player ever

anyway can't wait for judson clarke to come back from his acl

He will come back and be firing all
Cyclinders

 

[Coach_Required]

It’s cause his big. That’s what I got told from someone in RFC

Even AI doesn't know who Josh Smillie is LOL

 

[KrispyKreme]

Even AI doesn't know who Josh Smillie is LOL

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- Josh “elusive” Smilie

 

[Coach_Required]

- Josh “elusive” Smilie

AI originally had this dude in a Footscray jumper WTAF

 

[The Vaucluse]

If I’m right, I find it strange that Yze goes on SEN and says Josh will be integrated into full training within 2-3 weeks, when Josh had injured his quad the previous Friday in a rehab session. Please, don’t tell me the coach didn’t know. Then Serpell announces on the Wednesday that Josh will be out for 6-10 weeks.

In not getting the messaging right about the injury, it makes people second guess the club and it gives oxygen to the conspiracy theorists, and on this occasion their would be some merit to their thinking. Plus, I’d like it clarified whether Josh is out for 6-10 weeks inclusive of a ‘mini preason’ or does the 6-10 week period mean that he is able to start full training after this period of time.

Ultimately, I’d like some clarity around the injury, even if the news is bad or they aren’t in a position to confirm a return date because a series of unknowns, then just simply tell us.

 

[RJK Tiger]

It’s cause his big. That’s what I got told from someone in RFC

Mate he isn't even that big. 6ft 4 Is a point guard in the NBA. They have blokes 6ft10 - 7ft4, younger, & playing against men like Jokic, running up and down courts 3-4 games a week. Smillie is tall for a footy player and his growth spurt can be an adjustment - but Giannis came into the NBA as a 6ft 8 18 year old & grew 3 inches in the first 18 months. He didn't miss games, he played 158/164 games as a teenager. Smillie couldn't play 1 and barely was able to train. The growth spurt is a factor, but certainly not the main reason he has missed games. That much is clear.

 

[RFCGloryJC]

Should ask him to grab some disposable gowns for the TAN crew.

Does Groupie's ass look big in this?

 

[RFCGloryJC]

Whilst the luck narrative is being pushed, I think we should also throw in tarot cards and astrology.

Need a dreamcatcher to dispel the evil spirits.

 

[Danog]

Wonder if people know that nothing will change by them tilting in this thread

 

[SMILLIE]

Josh Smillie: Quad, 6-10 weeks

“Josh Smillie's injury is well documented now, and we're all very disappointed about that injury, no one more so than Josh himself, and then closely followed by everyone else at the Club,” Serpell said.

“The important thing to note is the surgical side remained intact, and unfortunately, when you undergo surgery like this, you need to distribute force elsewhere, and the surrounding structures haven't tolerated the force production which Josh has generated in that muscle.

“It is a disappointing start to the career for Josh, but not unlike some of our other Richmond greats, David Astbury

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David Astbury

Age

35

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

204.2

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

230.8

4star

D

8.4

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

, Dylan Grimes

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Dylan Grimes

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

, and Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

36

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

. So we just have to get around the young man at the moment and support him through this latest setback, and we know that he's going to have a really good future at this Club.”

 

[Nostradumbass]

His body is still growing into his body.

 

[Profop]

So the same leg as the surgery which personally I find reassuring because if suddenly it was both quads you’d have to start questioning his genetics

 

[PetterdHoisted]

I know you didn't initially quote it but kicking is the most common cause of all rectus femoris (one of the 4 major muscles of the quadriceps) injuries...

Seeing some of the friggen stupid replies on here by many not understanding that kicking is the most likely cause of quadricep injury is mind blowing.

What a stupid echo chamber we can become sometimes.

Well yes, I agree, you use your quads to kick.

But Yze's comments suggest that, at best, they had him on a modified regimen with the advice to 'kick softly', but then he kicked too hard, and injured himself?

Or was it just that he really shouldn't have been kicking at all?
Let alone the 3 weeks/8 weeks morning/afternoon thing, the messaging is all over the place.

My main thing is that Yze should defer all injury questions to the medical team. I don't think Yze is great at relaying info.

 

[TiggyTig]

Mate he isn't even that big. 6ft 4 Is a point guard in the NBA. They have blokes 6ft10 - 7ft4, younger, & playing against men like Jokic, running up and down courts 3-4 games a week. Smillie is tall for a footy player and his growth spurt can be an adjustment - but Giannis came into the NBA as a 6ft 8 18 year old & grew 3 inches in the first 18 months. He didn't miss games, he played 158/164 games as a teenager. Smillie couldn't play 1 and barely was able to train. The growth spurt is a factor, but certainly not the main reason he has missed games. That much is clear.

NBA players would be lucky to run 4km a game playing a non contact sport. None of the players you named would have the endurance to run out half a quarter in the AFL and none of them are kicking a ball 50m. I dont see the relevance of your post tbh.

 

[partycorolla]

Well yes, I agree, you use your quads to kick.

But Yze's comments suggest that, at best, they had him on a modified regimen with the advice to 'kick softly', but then he kicked too hard, and injured himself?

Or was it just that he really shouldn't have been kicking at all?
Let alone the 3 weeks/8 weeks morning/afternoon thing, the messaging is all over the place.

My main thing is that Yze should defer all injury questions to the medical team. I don't think Yze is great at relaying info.

Yze was likely just repeating/paraphrasing what he'd been told, which may well have been paraphrased to start with. The less we hear from Serpell, the better - rarely gives us good news that guy

 

[partycorolla]

Mate he isn't even that big. 6ft 4 Is a point guard in the NBA. They have blokes 6ft10 - 7ft4, younger, & playing against men like Jokic, running up and down courts 3-4 games a week. Smillie is tall for a footy player and his growth spurt can be an adjustment - but Giannis came into the NBA as a 6ft 8 18 year old & grew 3 inches in the first 18 months. He didn't miss games, he played 158/164 games as a teenager. Smillie couldn't play 1 and barely was able to train. The growth spurt is a factor, but certainly not the main reason he has missed games. That much is clear.

Nah that's rubbish. How many NBA blokes kick the ball?

 

[RJK Tiger]

NBA players would be lucky to run 4km a game playing a non contact sport. None of the players you named would have the endurance to run out half a quarter in the AFL and none of them are kicking a ball 50m. I dont see the relevance of your post tbh.

Smillie hasnt played a single game. He cant even get through training.

The NBA blokes player 3-4 games a week with East to West travel inbetween games. Are you trying to tell me Smillie can't play a game of footy, but in the NBA he'd be playing 82 games a year??

 

[W4RT1G3R]

Smillie hasnt played a single game. He cant even get through training.

The NBA blokes player 3-4 games a week with East to West travel inbetween games. Are you trying to tell me Smillie can't play a game of footy, but in the NBA he'd be playing 82 games a year??

The injury is from kicking the ball not from running. Pretty sure they don’t kick in the NBA.
In addition compare to other sports all you want but nothing stacks up to AFL from an all round athlete requirement particularly a mid. As you mentioned also he is big for a footy player and exceptionally big for a mid.

 

[SleepingGiant]

Anyone talking this up as a certain star for us are kidding themselves. This is odds on a failed pick, I absolutely hope it isn't, just the reality. He can't kick a ball.

 

[cairo tiger]

If I’m right, I find it strange that Yze goes on SEN and says Josh will be integrated into full training within 2-3 weeks, when Josh had injured his quad the previous Friday in a rehab session. Please, don’t tell me the coach didn’t know. Then Serpell announces on the Wednesday that Josh will be out for 6-10 weeks.

In not getting the messaging right about the injury, it makes people second guess the club and it gives oxygen to the conspiracy theorists, and on this occasion their would be some merit to their thinking. Plus, I’d like it clarified whether Josh is out for 6-10 weeks inclusive of a ‘mini preason’ or does the 6-10 week period mean that he is able to start full training after this period of time.

Ultimately, I’d like some clarity around the injury, even if the news is bad or they aren’t in a position to confirm a return date because a series of unknowns, then just simply tell us.

the right hand doesnt know what the left hand is doing, both these blokes are imcomptent

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Not fussed...he's young and still growing...