2019 Members Convention

[Janus]

Yep.

It's a death spiral once you start offering discounted tickets.

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They aren’t discounted. It’s a payment plan. People still end up paying $99 so long as the club wins 8 games.

 

[dav3]

The higher cost would be to do with the hire of the venue. That would be pretty obvious.

The fact that it was sold out the first year was because it was new and exclusive. The second event never generates the same level of interest for that very reason.

The question should be centred around why they decided to shift it to the Entertainment Centre. It’s basically almost triple the capacity if set up into conference mode (1900 seats as opposed to 750). Even if they split it into two rooms, which they will probably do, the capacity is higher than it was last year (950 seats).

Perhaps they're using the 2nd smaller room?

EDIT: Ahh ok, that IS the smaller one

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Memebers Convention II: Return of the Thunder Clods.


These things will keep going until the day Janus is the only one there.

 

[Magus]

They are pushing it hard now.

So which of those replies belongs to a bigfooty user..

 

[GremioPower]

Its always easy in hindsight but I think this one was pretty obvious from the start.

At least let it sell out for a 2nd year before jumping the shark.

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Yep. It was. Second editions usually generate less interest. Moreover, last season ended up in huge disappointment, while, during last Summer, we were full of hope. It should be crystal clear that the club would need to convince people to attend the event this time around.

— Hey, let's move away from the club, into a bigger place, and charge more for it!

Genius...

 

[Doctor Feel]

Memebers Convention II: Return of the Thunder Clods.


These things will keep going until the day Janus is the only one there.

Lol thundercloud. Where is that guy. Probably coaching us.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

They aren’t discounted. It’s a payment plan. People still end up paying $99 so long as the club wins 8 games.

It's still an easier payment plan that wasnt offered to the first adopters. It will kill early sales momentum next time around. I host 5 live events around Australia each year with 200-1000 people and I have seen it in action.

I was in this case though in particular referring to any proposed free or discounted tickets being suggested earlier.

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[Janus]

It's still an easier payment plan that wasnt offered to the first adopters. It will kill early sales momentum next time around. I host 5 live events around Australia each year with 200-1000 people and I have seen it in action.

I was in this case though in particular referring to any proposed free or discounted tickets being suggested earlier.

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It’s only offered to those who attended the previous year...but I agree.

I think they simply overestimated the amount of people who want to spend their Saturday listening to talks about football. The only reason I’m going again is because I’m your friendly neighbourhood contrarian and people assumed I would be...I only bought a ticket a week ago.

It would be interesting to see who made the decision to expand it and why.

 

[GremioPower]

It’s only offered to those who attended the previous year...but I agree.

I think they simply overestimated the amount of people who want to spend their Saturday listening to talks about football. The only reason I’m going again is because I’m your friendly neighbourhood contrarian and people assumed I would be...I only bought a ticket a week ago.

It would be interesting to see who made the decision to expand it and why.

To expand it and to have a more expensive ticket after a shamefully enfuriating end of season...

The targeted audience is pissed and disappointed with you. The first convention did not deliver. Why would they go to the second?

 

[badbeats]

No reply to my email to the club, standard really

 

[tribey]

The targeted audience...

There’s the issue right there. The disconnect is immense.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

A bouncy castle and snow cones next time make it happen.

 

[badbeats]

A bouncy castle and snow cones next time make it happen.

Swimming and ****.

 

[manureid]

Swimming and ****.

A Jack Watts convention. The club should run a poll.

 

[OneGreatClub]

They put it in a bigger venue this year, didn’t they?
I guess they underestimated how pissed off a lot of us are.

 

[PAFC66]

Lol $100 for the “privilege”. This club has jumped the shark.

Lol who's going to take lades blabbering stand up comedy role this time...

What a joke.

Time to role out the premiership fund again .

 

[OneGreatClub]

Team finishes the last 7 games with a 1-6 record. it drops from top-4 contention to missing Finals. Members want blood, as they should!

Club should have sold this event as: "2018 Convention and Season Review — Why Have Our Plan Failed." It would have generated more interest. Everything related to 2019 should be presented in comparison with last season:

— Last year, we started 11-4 and finished 1-6; it is not that we were playing well on those first 15 games, and it got worse from the 16th onwards. Let's see what we have said during the convention, what we have shown on the field, and what we can take from them. There are things that we are going to maintain as is; others that we are going to make some changes; and some others that we are going to dismiss completely...
— Last year, we said X. We saw X on the field, but it was bad, because of x, y, and z. We won't do X this year, but A, instead. A is better because of 1, 2, 3...
— Last year, we said Y. We didn't see Y on the field, because of a, b, and c. We have given up on Y, and go with B, instead / We are going to try Y again...
— Last year, we said Z. We saw Z on the field and it worked. We are going to do it again this season/ We don't think it is going to work this season because of d, e, and f.
— Last year, we didn't say anything about R, but R was a big issue which we should have forseen. We didn't. We won't get wrong again. We are going to do this and that; and we already did this and that, to address the issue.
— Last year, we didn't say anything about C. Still, C may have been an issue by the end of the season. We weren't ready for it, and we paid too much of a price because of it. We won't make the same mistake again. This and that is being done to avoid it.
— Last year, ...

Club may be not selling the event like this, but if it is not going to happen like this, why bother? There was a presentation last year. There was a standard put forth by the club. "Why haven't we reached the standard set by ourselves" should be the main question.

People want to know why we have failed. The stuff we are going to do this year is supposed to fix what was wrong last season. So, show people precisely that.

great post

 

[Ilias M]

Nothing more then the usual PR spin. Screened question selling the narrative.

Haven’t we heard of all the excuses and prayer blaming? Accountability on Ken first and foremost

 

[GoPorts]

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Nothing more then the usual PR spin. Screened question selling the narrative.

Haven’t we heard of all the excuses and prayer blaming? Accountability on Ken first and foremost

What happened Port?

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[GremioPower]

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Nothing more then the usual PR spin. Screened question selling the narrative.

Haven’t we heard of all the excuses and prayer blaming? Accountability on Ken first and foremost

Questions 1, 2, and 5 are good questions; 3 and 4 are not, though.

"Accountability on Ken" should come in the answer of the first question.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Lol who's going to take lades blabbering stand up comedy role this time...

What a joke.

Time to role out the premiership fund again .

Lade's presentation was really odd. It was just him making jokes and talking about basketball tactics they ripped and wanted to put into practice at AFL level.

I felt like he wasn't that competent at the time.

As for the questions thing, when I bought my tickets the day this came out I could definitely enter in custom questions. To me it looks like they didn't like the questions coming through and have now made it a list of pre-set garbage press conference style questions you vote for, or no questions at all as per macca's experience.

 

[Duck Farmer]

If they are genuine they should use something like pigeonhole.at to crowdsource questions from members at the convention, display them on the big screen in real time, and commit to answering those that attract significant numbers of votes.

Edit - I forgot, no phones allowed in order to keep our IP in safe keeping for our own self-destruction.

 

[Lagooner]

I felt like he wasn't that competent at the time.

Yeah but he tried really really hard so you can’t say that he was incompetent.

 

[NoddyHolder]

Using the word 'learnings' almost triggers me more than anything that's happened since the end of the season

 

[Janus]

Lade's presentation was really odd. It was just him making jokes and talking about basketball tactics they ripped and wanted to put into practice at AFL level.

I felt like he wasn't that competent at the time.

As for the questions thing, when I bought my tickets the day this came out I could definitely enter in custom questions. To me it looks like they didn't like the questions coming through and have now made it a list of pre-set garbage press conference style questions you vote for, or no questions at all as per macca's experience.

Lade was garbage - you could tell there why there was a disconnect between the midfield and forward line.

I bought a ticket only a couple of weeks ago and I could send in questions. It was on the form where you had to check that you understood you couldn’t record anything.