2018 Hottest 100

[two blue tiger]

Disappointed that both Hatchie (Bad Guy) and Snail Mail (Pristine) didn't crack the top 100. Would be hoping that they both get a gig today in the "leftovers".

 

[Roobs321]

I can understand having a dig at the top 10, but Sicko Mode is in the better half of that top 10. Losing It, This is America, When the Party's Over, Groceries and Be Alright are worse, if not others.

Does anyone else find it dispiriting that the top 100 in 2018 is solely comprised of Aus, NZ, US, UK & Canada artists (the usual 5 suspects).

 

[revival_mode]

lol what a dumpster fire of a countdown. horrible year

 

[nobbyiscool]

I'm not going to go full douchebag and say how much better today's 200-101 count is.

But it's been a far more interesting and diverse range of music today.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

When did they start doing the 200-101 countdowns?

Would be interesting to hear some retrospective ones from the early/mid 90s

 

[Gibbsy]

When did they start doing the 200-101 countdowns?

Would be interesting to hear some retrospective ones from the early/mid 90s

They only started playing them on air from like 2015(?) onwards and they only have records from 2008 onwards

 

[Gooback22]

1998 Hottest 100 is on Double J now. Nice to go back.

 

[nobbyiscool]

When did they start doing the 200-101 countdowns?

Would be interesting to hear some retrospective ones from the early/mid 90s

Back when you had to call a number, or physically mail something, and you only voted for 1 song?

You'd be getting songs in the 200 with literally a dozen votes (assuming they even kept records of them, which I doubt.)

 

[Dancing Potato]

Nothing But Thieves at 155 with an absolutely rocking tune. Should have been waaaay higher.

 

[Demon13304]

I enjoyed a fair bit of it, thought the top 10 could've been better but overall pretty decent year imo.

Every single year you have posters here who complain about how bad the countdown is but continue to listen to it the next year and then complain again.
I'd just stop listening to it if I were you guys, its obviously gone past you. It's just an annual whingefest at this point

 

[SSwans2011]

I enjoyed a fair bit of it, thought the top 10 could've been better but overall pretty decent year imo.

Every single year you have posters here who complain about how bad the countdown is but continue to listen to it the next year and then complain again.
I'd just stop listening to it if I were you guys, its obviously gone past you. It's just an annual whingefest at this point

Personally I find it more nauseating when people say "just don't listen". I generally don't, unless one of my mates is having a barbecue, and even then I'll usually keep any complaints to myself - why ruin other people's good time? Like I said, from what I could gather yesterday, people I knew seemed to be pretty unanimously of the opinion it was a poor count.

The one thing that does tend to annoy me a bit is with all the fuss about voting local, there ends up being an oversaturation of durry rock, which is just as frustrating as the EDM tracks that are actually rarely played on triple j making it. It seems like most these bands rarely have any major success outside of Australia. Meanwhile there's acts like Hatchie, who can't even get a look-in, killing it here and abroad (I will admit my interest in her music has waned a bit, but I still would have liked to see her in the count).

Then you have acts like Tropical **** Storm, Laura Jean, Gurrumul (R.I.P.), Phantastic Ferniture, Pond, Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever, Clowns, Jack Ladder etc etc etc whi put out really interesting and worthwhile material last year that received air time, but instead we needed to get that one extra Ocean Alley song in. It's a shame, but you are probably right in that it's not worth complaining about it because it won't change. I'm a bit involved in the local scene and it's just a shame this is the best we can get, but in all fairness, it must be said that community radio and its audience do a pretty good job of celebrating local music.

 

[JackOutback]

Okay, oldie. Have a lie down.

I feel like this is the retort of choice whenever anyone criticises hip hop. But I didn't care for hip hop when I was young and Kanye and Jay-Z were king, I don't care for it now when Kendrick Lamar or Drake are king; age has nothing to do with it. I understand it's culturally significant for black Americans in particular, but as a white Australian, I'm left to judge it solely on its musical merits and I usually find it wanting. This is America is a classic example; I understand it's relevance politically and culturally, but as a song, it's not that good musically and I can't understand anyone playing it regularly for its music. There's a few songs that break through to me (King Kunta, for example) but largely it falls flat.

That all said, I'm not going to be one of those people that complains music was simply better in the old days, there's plenty of great music around. But for all those pointing out how old Hottest 100s were stacked with globally successful and significant acts, I'd ask, 'who are the huge acts that are missing out?'. Music has changed, record companies can no longer control releases, sales etc to ensure bands achieve simultaneous success around the world. The only acts selling out arenas these days are pop like Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran and nostalgia acts like Prodigy, Foo Fighters etc. People's votes are much more fractured these days, which is why I suppose something like Confidence gets through; it's just light and good enough to get on a lot of people's lists even if it's no one's favourite song of the year. I reckon it would have comfortably fit into old Hottest 100s, but be one of those songs that floats around from 20 to 60. I reckon in the past, people would fill out their lists with some of these big bands and it would make the 100 seem much more global.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Nothing But Thieves at 155 with an absolutely rocking tune. Should have been waaaay higher.

Don't know how their LAV was their only song that made the 100, the LAV was average but every song on their EP was a banger. Probably just Gang of Youths fans.

 

[Roobs321]

I feel like this is the retort of choice whenever anyone criticises hip hop. But I didn't care for hip hop when I was young and Kanye and Jay-Z were king, I don't care for it now when Kendrick Lamar or Drake are king; age has nothing to do with it. I understand it's culturally significant for black Americans in particular, but as a white Australian, I'm left to judge it solely on its musical merits and I usually find it wanting. This is America is a classic example; I understand it's relevance politically and culturally, but as a song, it's not that good musically and I can't understand anyone playing it regularly for its music. There's a few songs that break through to me (King Kunta, for example) but largely it falls flat.

That all said, I'm not going to be one of those people that complains music was simply better in the old days, there's plenty of great music around. But for all those pointing out how old Hottest 100s were stacked with globally successful and significant acts, I'd ask, 'who are the huge acts that are missing out?'. Music has changed, record companies can no longer control releases, sales etc to ensure bands achieve simultaneous success around the world. The only acts selling out arenas these days are pop like Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran and nostalgia acts like Prodigy, Foo Fighters etc. People's votes are much more fractured these days, which is why I suppose something like Confidence gets through; it's just light and good enough to get on a lot of people's lists even if it's no one's favourite song of the year. I reckon it would have comfortably fit into old Hottest 100s, but be one of those songs that floats around from 20 to 60. I reckon in the past, people would fill out their lists with some of these big bands and it would make the 100 seem much more global.

Fair enough, but that retort had merit given how the "oldie" was carrying on. Perfectly timed use.

 

[SSwans2011]

I feel like this is the retort of choice whenever anyone criticises hip hop. But I didn't care for hip hop when I was young and Kanye and Jay-Z were king, I don't care for it now when Kendrick Lamar or Drake are king; age has nothing to do with it. I understand it's culturally significant for black Americans in particular, but as a white Australian, I'm left to judge it solely on its musical merits and I usually find it wanting. This is America is a classic example; I understand it's relevance politically and culturally, but as a song, it's not that good musically and I can't understand anyone playing it regularly for its music. There's a few songs that break through to me (King Kunta, for example) but largely it falls flat.

That all said, I'm not going to be one of those people that complains music was simply better in the old days, there's plenty of great music around. But for all those pointing out how old Hottest 100s were stacked with globally successful and significant acts, I'd ask, 'who are the huge acts that are missing out?'. Music has changed, record companies can no longer control releases, sales etc to ensure bands achieve simultaneous success around the world. The only acts selling out arenas these days are pop like Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran and nostalgia acts like Prodigy, Foo Fighters etc. People's votes are much more fractured these days, which is why I suppose something like Confidence gets through; it's just light and good enough to get on a lot of people's lists even if it's no one's favourite song of the year. I reckon it would have comfortably fit into old Hottest 100s, but be one of those songs that floats around from 20 to 60. I reckon in the past, people would fill out their lists with some of these big bands and it would make the 100 seem much more global.

Except he didn't attack hip-hop. He attacked modern hip-hop. I would have said the same thing if he just generally said music was better in 1998 than 2018.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Does anyone else find it dispiriting that the top 100 in 2018 is solely comprised of Aus, NZ, US, UK & Canada artists (the usual 5 suspects).

Is it ever not?

 

[JackOutback]

Fair enough, but that retort had merit given how the "oldie" was carrying on. Perfectly timed use.

Except he didn't attack hip-hop. He attacked modern hip-hop. I would have said the same thing if he just generally said music was better in 1998 than 2018.

Fair enough, it’s just I got the same retort earlier for saying I don’t really rate hip hop.

There’s definitely some head scratchers in the whole list. How does Losing It get number two and Golden Features not make the 100? How does Dinosaurs make top 10 and the superior Ritalin languish outside the 100 (timing might’ve an issue there).

 

[Roobs321]

Is it ever not?

Look at the last couple, sometimes you get a dozen smattering of other places. This was the first one in a while with just the expected 5.

 

[nobbyiscool]

We can bleat about the 100 songs in the 2018 countdown.

But 1998 had 2 novelty songs from South Park in the top 20... (you could argue the winning song was a bad novelty song too..)

I remember in about 1998/99 I went to a party where the kid hosting it played nothing but the South Park album for 2 hours... at which point everyone left. Poor kid never recovered his reputation.

 

[Roobs321]

Bubblegoose remains better than a majority of the 2018 countdown. The South Park album was also massive over that summer, and the show was zeitgeist, so no surprises there. That said, I agree the two Chef songs have no place being there.

 

[Warsaw]

Fetishisation of northern beaches bands amongst the Js audience is truly over the top.

Talking straight, an almost perfect song for this, came in at like 130 something.

 

[SSwans2011]

Fetishisation of northern beaches bands amongst the Js audience is truly over the top.

Talking straight, an almost perfect song for this, came in at like 130 something.

That's what shits me off. How do RBCF miss out? I thought their album was a 7/10, but Mainland, Talking Straight and The Hammer were all perfect H100 songs.

 

[Loonerty]

Ended up with 6/10 in the 100. I think also only 6/10 in the 200 as well.

Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five: #95
BROCKHAMPTON - BOOGIE: #63
Ball Park Music - The Perfect Life Does Not Exist: #39
Methyl Ethel - Scream Whole: #65
Hockey Dad - I Wanna Be Everybody: #61
Jungle - Heavy, California: DNP
Press Club - Suburbia: DNP
Ocean Alley - Confidence: #1
Haiku Hands - Jupiter: DNP
Psychedelic pr0n Crumpets - Social Candy: DNP

 

[Roobs321]

I only had 1/10 make the 200.

 

[Loonerty]

Really interesting article on how the Hottest 100 has changed over time.
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019...nging-sound-of-triple-js-hottest-100/10742150