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To be 'elite' at anything requires a high degree of sacrifice. The question everyone who wants to be 'elite' needs to ask is, "what are you willing to sacrifice?". It is quite clear that not enough of our players are willing to sacrifice enough.
 
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What's done is done I suppose, not happy considering he was most likely to be the club leader.
In a way I don't think we lose to much until his return. Boaky back to the midfield where he plays his best footy, SPP looks like he may rip it up this year and Atley may get his chance to prove he can play at AFL level.
If Ollie was a highly skilled player I would be very worried.
 

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I'm sort of fine with Ollie wakeboarding, but he's had all Christmas break and the off-season to have his fun. He really shouldn't be putting himself at risk anymore, especially when full training has resumed and the season not too far off either.

Our on-field performance is going to go nowhere, whereby we have a head coach who has a "there's more to life than just football" mentality.
 
That errant bastard Novak Djokovic - unprofessional:

Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer both love skiing, but while the Swiss would like to wait till the end of his tennis career to pursue that sport, the world No 1 makes sure there are no clause in any of his endorsement deals that would prevent him from going downhill on snow-covered slopes. "I always try to condition my endorsement deals not to forbid me to ski," said Djokovic, who went skiing with his friends and family during the break he took after his Australian Open triumph. "I am in love with skiing, not crazy skiing."
Federer, however, thinks differently and he said: "Some people need these other sports to feel ready to go for tennis, I don't. I would love to, but tennis is just too important for me to get injured somewhere else."
You forgot to add Michael Schumacher liked skiing too..
 
Therefore according to a few around here the club should make all players get their pilots licenses so they don't drive anywhere, coz you know..... risk and stuff.

Point is its safe. You are not going to get injured.
Does Ollie still have greys? He's more likely to get Pavo.
 
The club already knows who they will announce as captain
It always was and will still be Ollie
Any competent organisation carefully manages any important succession plan
All this baloney about checking all the candidates, trying to look smart reeks of arrogance
Now we just invited another media shit storm over the captaincy appointment
I know we like to bag our cross town rivals but bugger me they get it right a lot more than us and sponsors like stability and positivity
Shooting ourselves in the foot yet again
 
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If football is work that you need a release from, 2 months out from the upcoming season, then you need to retire and not waste the clubs time.

You wouldn't hear any of our former captains refer to football as "work".

It's that kind of attitude that wont take us anywhere. Sucks for the blokes that genuinely love the game and want the ultimate success, Boaky will give them a few pairs of undies as compensation I'm sure.



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To be 'elite' at anything requires a high degree of sacrifice. The question everyone who wants to be 'elite' is, "what are you willing to sacrifice?". It is quite clear that not enough of our players are willing to sacrifice enough.
THIS!

IF he wants to do stuff that will potentially harm his footy, but isn’t particularly daft, then go for it.

If he wants to be the best footy player he can be, then it’s a mistake.

Footy players make **** all ‘sacrifice’ compared to many elite sports.
Sports with less financial compensation and glory.
 
No finals 7 of the last 10 years and we allow our players two months out to do things like this in peak pre season really?

We talking about a club that’s meant to be “ Professional” but we nothing more then amateur hour. One thing enjoying leisure time away from footy that’s what the off season for but let’s keep things in to context

Hinkley again sure seems to be building a winning culture hay
Our multi grand final winning teams that everyone wants to get back to did plenty of off field activities to recharge and refresh in the off season, between games and even the night before games.

Most of them wouldn't be allowed in this highly scrutinised modern AFL.



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The club already knows who they will announce as captain
It always was and will still be Ollie
Any competent organisation carefully manages any important succession
All this balony about checking all the candidates trying to look smart reels of arrogance
Now we just invited another media shit storm over the captaincy appointment
I know we like to bag our cross town rivals but bugger me they get it right a lot more than us and sponsors like stability and positivity
Shooting ourselves in the foot yet
yeah they really do things well the crows, pre season camp, Tippetgate, lying to their fans regularly and I'm pretty sure a few good players have left the club to play elsewhere in the last few years, and most fans would have their last flag on vhs I'm disappointed in our club of late too but to say the crows are better is laughable
 

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These posts from our players are very telling, its obvious why we fail so much

They don't want it enough.

yeah they really do things well the crows, pre season camp, Tippetgate, lying to their fans regularly and I'm pretty sure a few good players have left the club to play elsewhere in the last few years, and most fans would have their last flag on vhs I'm disappointed in our club of late too but to say the crows are better is laughable

I hate to say it, they did one thing right. They poached Walsh.
 
Point is its safe. You are not going to get injured.
Does Ollie still have greys? He's more likely to get Pavo.

You're right, usually when the tin can you're strapped into falls from a few thousand feet injured isn't the word for it ;) just ask the 5 people who died in NSW from 4 different incidents in October/November last year.
 
Honestly, **** Ollie and Jonas.

A bullshit situation where the players are barracking for the right to rule themselves out of work, due to ****ing themselves up by outside of work activities.

It’s depressing that these two are our potential leaders.

If I had a job where I need to be physically active to provide for my family, and have the option to take a stupid risk... I know what I would choose.

Make your community proud.

This club is a constant disappointment.
 
Our multi grand final winning teams that everyone wants to get back to did plenty of off field activities to recharge and refresh in the off season, between games and even the night before games.

Most of them wouldn't be allowed in this highly scrutinised modern AFL.



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And they wouldn’t win in this era with that attitude.
 
These guys are starting to piss me off. It's a stupid accident from a risk that probably didn't need to be taken by a guy whose entire living is made by being physically fit. The other players don't need to make any comment about it and the fact that they all feel entitled to jump on social media to "stick up for their mate" just shows how seriously this is being by the leadership in the club.

"Hey I'm getting paid obscene amounts up play football. Don't tell me what to do! By the way we'll be calling you again next year to resign because we are predicting a massive drop in members after another disappointing season"

Read the room guys, next they'll be telling us all to eat cake because the AO pies have gone up in price again

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