Racing March Daily Punt- Urban Ruler vs the Flemington Ambulance

[RobbyRoy]

Australia gripped by Bunbury Cup excitement.

Im om Prying Tom at 16s

Keep waiting for PT to his early Spring form but he's generally gone pretty shit.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Burger Time my a?ss

 

[FallingLiefs]

Keep waiting for PT to his early Spring form but he's generally gone pretty shit.

Moral beat in Albany from memory. Kingston town still seems an apparition.

 

[juice t]

And now Burger Time will now be weighted out of everything
So there's a trade off

 

[iluvparis]

Moral beat in Albany from memory. Kingston town still seems an apparition.

Often is

 

[HeathySure]

Yet another horrendous call from Heathy to add to my signature - laughable. TAS would absolutely rape Hawkshot

Labelling MJ as close to the second best horse in Australia is absolutely laughable epecially when you downgrade Winx for beating nothing. Perhaps Helluva Street is top 5?
Truly staggers me how you continue to come up with more and more rubbish every week.

When did i ever downgrade Winx? your obsessive need to put down everything i say is quite funny.
I will say it again. Winx is a star. I have no idea who good she is because she is being protected and racing walkers. She has avoided any races with depth because there is a chance of being beaten most likely by bad luck. That is my problem with Winx and i will never rate her as the best ever because she has never raced the best. Thats the last time i will state this i have done this like 1000 times

Fact. MJ is lengths better than Fundementalist. Fact, TAS was lucky to beat Fundementalist an wouldnt have if Miss Fabulas didnt decided to go mental. Fact Hawkshot has improved lengths since he started leading. Fact. Amphitrite who you bagged has a couple of lengths on Fundementalist on all the times they met. Fact. MJ and Hawkshot has lengths in Amphitrite on their last start (although i am not dismissing Amphitrite to improve). So through Fundementalist MJ has lengths on TAS. I use logic, something you dont seem to have,

Fact. Alizee has beaten all the good horses other than Winx and HC who she hasnt raced and done it hard and done it with a huge sprint. Fact HC has never won in Melbourne and runs with the 2nd raters who Alizee thrashed when he does run in Melbourne.

You know what was a horrendous call? Saying Trapeze Artist will never win another race, despite the evidence that he doesnt like the wet and he puts in bad runs a lot. You seem to think that horses are machines and have to win or you write them off. Thats just stupid, So many factors in a race and you have to put them all together. Its why i love racing so much. A race is a huge puzzle and when you get it right its the best feeling in the world. I have put my opinion out there and i stand by it, If i am wrong i will admit i am wrong. you should learn how to do that too.

 

[iluvparis]

When did i ever downgrade Winx? your obsessive need to put down everything i say is quite funny.
I will say it again. Winx is a star. I have no idea who good she is because she is being protected and racing walkers. .

Can't believe you can say these two things together with a straight face and actually believe what you say.

 

[iluvparis]

When did i ever downgrade Winx? your obsessive need to put down everything i say is quite funny.
I will say it again. Winx is a star. I have no idea who good she is because she is being protected and racing walkers. She has avoided any races with depth because there is a chance of being beaten most likely by bad luck. That is my problem with Winx and i will never rate her as the best ever because she has never raced the best. Thats the last time i will state this i have done this like 1000 times

Fact. MJ is lengths better than Fundementalist. Fact, TAS was lucky to beat Fundementalist an wouldnt have if Miss Fabulas didnt decided to go mental. Fact Hawkshot has improved lengths since he started leading. Fact. Amphitrite who you bagged has a couple of lengths on Fundementalist on all the times they met. Fact. MJ and Hawkshot has lengths in Amphitrite on their last start (although i am not dismissing Amphitrite to improve). So through Fundementalist MJ has lengths on TAS. I use logic, something you dont seem to have,

Fact. Alizee has beaten all the good horses other than Winx and HC who she hasnt raced and done it hard and done it with a huge sprint. Fact HC has never won in Melbourne and runs with the 2nd raters who Alizee thrashed when he does run in Melbourne.

You know what was a horrendous call? Saying Trapeze Artist will never win another race, despite the evidence that he doesnt like the wet and he puts in bad runs a lot. You seem to think that horses are machines and have to win or you write them off. Thats just stupid, So many factors in a race and you have to put them all together. Its why i love racing so much. A race is a huge puzzle and when you get it right its the best feeling in the world. I have put my opinion out there and i stand by it, If i am wrong i will admit i am wrong. you should learn how to do that too.

You do have an interesting interpretation of 'facts' - Hawkshot 'lengths better' than Amphi is a good one given there was half a length between them last time out. And you accuse me of not having logic - one of the more laughable posts I've seen here from you and that's saying something!

Please name all the good horses Alizee has beaten apart from Winx and HC - the FACTS suggest she has beaten only a handful of the top 20 horses in Australia at the moment according to Timeform.

Who are the second raters that Alizee has THRASHED. She has one win by 2 lengths as an older horse.

While you continue to spew unsubstantiated bullshit time and time again I will continue to call you out for your absolute rubbish.

In any case - all people have to read is your comments re: Winx for people to know you have NFI about the sport.

 

[AvantGardener]

BC >>> Winx

 

[HeathySure]

You do have an interesting interpretation of 'facts' - Hawkshot 'lengths better' than Amphi is a good one given there was half a length between them last time out. And you accuse me of not having logic - one of the more laughable posts I've seen here from you and that's saying something!


In any case - all people have to read is your comments re: Winx for people to know you have NFI about the sport.

Sick of arguing with you when all you keep doing instead of stating facts you just insult

 

[iluvparis]

Sick of arguing with you when all you keep doing instead of stating facts you just insult

I state facts all the time - you just ignore them/refuse to answer them. Still waiting for your list of Canterbury Stakes winners over the last decade that suggests it shouldn't be a G1 by the way

 

[HeathySure]

I state facts all the time - you just ignore them/refuse to answer them. Still waiting for your list ofCanterbury Stakes winners over the last decade that suggests it shouldn't be a G1 by the way

You just dont get my point
there is a Yarra Glen maiden that should be group 1 because Schillaci Hareeba and Paris Lane won it. Couldnt give a rats arse who won the Canterbury stakes thats not the point. The point is its a made up group 1 run on the same day as the main sprint race of the year and it was made group 1 by Messara and his cronies to clean up at the breeding barn .
Its a listed race at best

 

[Slipps]

Backing Eastender for a 4th straight cup will be an interesting race thou..
Also gonna have a crack on Silentz in race 6 hopefully bounce back after that last run

 

[RobbyRoy]

Fact, TAS was lucky to beat Fundementalist an wouldnt have if Miss Fabulas didnt decided to go mental. so much.

How is that a fact? If MF doesn't do that we likely get far less tempo but TAS much closer in the run and requiring far less effort to run them down.

 

[TBellicious]

Big fan of Fundamentalist as a horse and backed it heavily for a place on Saturday but just a bit worried she might be a touch scared of the line. Ran the 74th (out of 80) fastest last 200 of the day and her ears looked extremely erect in comparison to TAS

 

[LFC2010]

Backing Eastender for a 4th straight cup will be an interesting race thou..
Also gonna have a crack on Silentz in race 6 hopefully bounce back after that last run

I've backed Surprise Baby. Hit the strongly last start against Schabau, who then went won again next start.
by Shocking so you know it's going to get the 2 miles.

 

[come on oliver]

Big fan of Fundamentalist as a horse and backed it heavily for a place on Saturday but just a bit worried she might be a touch scared of the line. Ran the 74th (out of 80) fastest last 200 of the day and her ears looked extremely erect in comparison to TAS

You had me at erect

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Top of the Range and Suprise Baby are my bets for the cup
Lots of unders in the market

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Khezerabad the blowout e/w pick one of the few proven over 2 miles

 

[HeathySure]

How is that a fact? If MF doesn't do that we likely get far less tempo but TAS much closer in the run and requiring far less effort to run them down.

Fundementalist would run home faster as well. She worked her arse off chasing Miss Fabulas. Instead of walking home TAS would have to run much faster sectionals to beat her.

 

[iluvparis]

You just dont get my point
there is a Yarra Glen maiden that should be group 1 because Schillaci Hareeba and Paris Lane won it. Couldnt give a rats arse who won the Canterbury stakes thats not the point. The point is its a made up group 1 run on the same day as the main sprint race of the year and it was made group 1 by Messara and his cronies to clean up at the breeding barn .
Its a listed race at best

Thanks for not answering the question and proving again - you have no clue.

 

[iluvparis]

Said from acceptances NAVAL WARFARE looks the best weighted horse in the Adelaide Cup so no surprise there has been money for him all week.

Have never backed him but tempted to spec MIGHTY BOSS in the CS Hayes - if he can't win this not surprised if he is immediately retired as won't find a more winnable black type race.

Martice looks shizen and is largely a battle of out of form horses. I'll be on SINTZCRAFT but its a total guess job as to which will bounce back to its best form.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

No doubt Canterbury Stakes deserves Grp1 status, snippet here of last 18 winners many guns here, plenty of Group 1 class, under what basis shouldn’t it be Group 1?
2019 - Trapeze Artist
2018 - Happy Clapper
2017 - Le Romain
2016 - Holler
2015 - Cosmic Endeavour
2014 - Appearance
2013 - Pierro
2012 - More Joyous
2011 - More Joyous
2010 - Hot Danish
2009 - All Silent
2008 - Mentality
2007 - Malcolm
2006 - Paratroopers
2005 - Dance Hero
2004 - Yell
2003 - Defier
2002 - Empire
2001 - Shogun Lodge

 

[Slipps]

Shamwow back at Ballarat today very short thou

 

[king rising]

Eastender scratched from the cup due to concerns over Raceday practices on the horse from Stewards.. mmm something’s doesn’t add up there