Analysis Do we need to follow?

[kozi]

I think the zoning was us, kits just that rance is so good at coming off his man to help. We have to trust them now shoulder to shoulder.

Was more talking the zoning further up the ground. The amount of free space Collingwood had through the middle was ridiculous.

 

[HTT]

If there’s something to copy, we copy. That’s the nature of professional sport. But we shouldn’t copy a kick to kick style. We’ve tried that before, it doesn’t work with our players.

Our pressure is just a little off, and that’s all it takes. When the other team gets the ball, our pressure needs to be on to stop them getting to the outside. Once they get it out, they can take marks and play keepings off. We can’t pressure a team when they do that. Fix that up and I can’t see why we won’t be thereabouts.

 

[Sir_Loin]

It might be that we have to trust our backs.

Yep and bring Balta in to be the key tall. If he’s in you don’t need to start tinkering with the rest of the game plan.

Plus the mids have to lift their game. Outside of cotch they’ve stunk it up so far

 

[roacheee]

- Hold our structure around the packs.

yep, how many effing times did we allow a pie player alone forward of the pack
dimma has to rectify this

 

[Bojangles17]

yep, how many effing times did we allow a pie player alone forward of the pack
dimma has to rectify this

How many ****en times out of the cbd did the ball get flicked out to Sidebottom all on his own whilst his oppo bolted toward defence

 

[Tiger71]

Follow ? Nope.

Our 1 wood is our pressure we have deviated from that as we so far are the least pressure side in the comp.

 

[tunksy]

Follow ? Nope.

Our 1 wood is our pressure we have deviated from that as we so far are the least pressure side in the comp.

Hope it's not a deliberate change to our game

 

[Zoom]

Generally the sides that follow are the ones that fall short at the pointy end. You need to innovate and stay ahead of the pack. That is what made Clarkson so great. Last season, whilst everyone was copying Richmond, West Coast did their own thing and ended up winning the flag.

We have become so predictable. Listening to Treloar talk about our game plan, Collingwood knew exactly what we were going to bring last Thursday because we bring the same thing every week. It worked for about 18 months but it has been picked apart and found out. We should’ve experimented last season against sides we were going to blitz no matter what (Brisbane, St Kilda, Gold Coast, Fremantle, etc.) but we didn’t. We’ve been caught napping and don’t appear to have a plan B. It will be interesting to see what the coaches can come up with now that our game plan is quickly dying in the arse.

 

[tigers47]

we will win the flag this year with our exact same 2017 gameplan. we are gonna look shit for the next 3-4 weeks though

We laid 30 tackles against a side doing circlework
That wont help any gameplan

 

[RunningBounce]

We have become so predictable. Listening to Treloar talk about our game plan, Collingwood knew exactly what we were going to bring last Thursday because we bring the same thing every week. It worked for about 18 months but it has been picked apart and found out.

I hope you're wrong but suspect you're right.

Looked like the Dogs had us worked out in Rnd 23 2018, too. Even Essendon. Brad Scott kept saying he had us worked out, without putting it on the scoreboard...

Bringing Lynch in changes the team dynamic a fair bit. Rance out even more so. We'll need to find a slightly new way to do what we do and that's a great thing.

 

[parmy2balmey]

higgo a contributor to this

it as all because we are not running

we are not running
we are not running
we are not running
we are not running

 

[roacheee]

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higgo and others bombing to our forward line
pretty much everyone else forgetting to tackle
dan x2, meatball, george, dusty forgetting to run n chase

has to stop now

 

[parmy2balmey]

higgo and others bombing to our forward line
pretty much everyone else forgetting to tackle
dan x2, meatball, george, dusty forgetting to run n chase

has to stop now

 

[Rayzorwire]

Caracella’s the least of our worries.

I’m sure the flaws in ball movement, positioning etc. are being noted and worked on.

Can anyone name a single player who has played at 80% of their best form this year? 70%?

You can’t beat top-4 sides and will be scratching against the rest with an entire side of 22 players going at well below their best. Ruckmen getting soundly beaten in the centre square, midfielders seldom getting any quality first use and nowhere near enough ball generally, forwards, wingers and flankers not running hard enough or causing/winning enough contests, and a defence under siege which couldn’t produce enough heroics.

Deep into the final quarter last week we didn’t have a single player over 20 possessions. As Hardwick said in the presser, you can’t get smashed at both contested and uncontested ball and hope to win.

None of these are problems caused by coaching, more a simple lapse in basic football fundamentals which lies somewhere between the players, their fitness and their motivation.

We’re not 30-40% better than every other side’s best football.

Our younger and mid-tier players need to improve year on year and the senior players need to consistently perform or our results will be increasingly middle of the table.

I’m looking forward to seeing how we cope with the hand we’ve been dealt this year, it’ll be a good test of character.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Regardless of what happens this year our planning should be more midfield strength in upcoming drafts/trade
As awesome as 2017 was we still have an in balance of small forwards- one trick ponies.

Midfielders that can win their own ball, cover the ground and play multiple roles is where the game is going. I hate to bring them up but we need to get where the Pies are in relation to midfield depth

 

[Not Important]

not bringing the same intensity. our improvement hasn't matched that of some other teams. we haven't had the rub of the green with injuries.

 

[SplintWhisky]

If Hardwick has actually decided to try and time a run at the end of the year, then that is dangerous. You can't time confidence and form and you can't just hope that it will all come together

 

[biaseddustyfan]

If Hardwick has actually decided to try and time a run at the end of the year, then that is dangerous. You can't time confidence and form and you can't just hope that it will all come together

dimmer is a god, it'll work

 

[Rayzorwire]

Midfielders that can win their own ball, cover the ground and play multiple roles is where the game is going. I hate to bring them up but we need to get where the Pies are in relation to midfield depth

Our drafting this year indicates that we understand where the game is going and where we need to add more quality and depth.

Tad frustrating watching Port and Geelong’s youngsters doing so well so early on.