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Nothing Australia did in Gulf War II made a jot of difference but your lot were all for it, I vaguely recall.
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Polls Thread Mk III
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It's only achievement was to cause the rise of ISIS
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You’re a bit muddled. You’re using a scientific pretext (the indisputable fact of man-made climate change) to try to argue a political point.
Whether Australia cutting emissions will make a difference to climate change is not a science question. It’s a geopolitics question.
And the geopolitics of Australia’s best interests demand that we be seen to take action on climate change.
Not that hard to grasp, I would have thought.
Call me cynical, but people are more in favour in times of drought (even though there's more great beach days)
Oh. Are we not actually taking "action on climate change" currently though?
Sure. People have been brainwashed. People are stupid sheep. As stupid as seeing "World Peace" or "Global Arms Race" on that list. That is, has diddly squat to do with Australian politics.
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No, not really. Labor will start to change that.
Still not nearly enough, of course, but then it's over to the likes of you to ask yourself why you have so resisted any action for so long.
Anyway, quite apart from how stupid an idea you may think it is for the economy which is the 13th largest out of 195 to do anything about climate change, the simple fact (which must really burn you) is that it's now undeniably a vote winner in Australia, as the polls show.
RW neanderthals have thrown everything they can at the topic with no greater goal than to derail and muddy, but people are now looking to someone who will finally tell those neanderthals to f*** off.
Get used to it. Yet again you're in the minority.
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A lot has changed in 6 years. Murdoch's rancid hold on the minds of much the populace has thankfully weakened considerably, people have looked on at the Trump train wreck in absolute horror and realised that's not that far from where Abbott wanted us to go...Totally. Everyone was clamouring for a carbon tax in 2013. Hehehe.
But I didn't expect you to notice.
Thanks for the emojis, BTW. Good to know I'm conversing with a real grown up.
Supermarkets and plastic bag tax has been a fantastic success. Simple and extremely effective and makes a real difference.
Good post offering sensible solutions
Sorry DR, more polls stuff please! Surely Libs cant be that close? Smells like Hawke / Fraser to me or am I wrong?
It is the polls thread Meds, not the ****ing climate change thread.
And you could be wrong.
For the young folk here, check out the 1980 Fraser vs Hayden election. I am getting a couple of echoes here, I don't think it is the bag.
So Pyne, Julie Bishop etc will regret their decision to bail then? LNP would have had a much better shot in this election with them on board
The government is in such a bad place we are desensitised as to how bad it has been. It has been remarkably bad.
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Don't disagree, but I'm surprised how well ScoMo is campaigning. Libs seem to be always on the front foot. Their bullshit ads reminds me of a scare campaign that Fraser pulled against Hayden.
I genuinely have an odd feeling about this election. Either the ALP will s**t it in a la Victoria or Scomo could pull off a miracle.
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Sportsbet has Labor ahead in 93 seats and narrow odds for them to win 86-90.
Ladbrokes has Labor ahead in 91 seats and narrow odds to win 81-85.
Ladbrokes has Labor ahead in 91 seats and narrow odds to win 81-85.
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With a LNP Wipeout in Qld.
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As always, be very wary of seat by seat polls. Libs will win easily.
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Yeah regardless of what people's opinions of Julie Bishop are, her personal popularity cannot be denied. Would have been responsible for making Curtin one of the safest seats in the country.
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