Polls Thread Mk III

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Who said anything about acting unilaterally? Never heard of the Paris Climate Agreement? Only 2 countries refused to sign up, with a 3rd recalcitrant subsequently withdrawing.

Australia's carbon tax / ETS would be acting unilaterally. There is no working international system linking the big players like Japan, Russia and China

Signing the agreement matters not a jot, its signing up to binding emission cuts that does.
 
Hopeless analogy. If everyone paid 5% more or less tax would it make a difference to the federal budget? Yes clearly.

You really cant grasp this.
And if everyone, and every country, did there bit to reduce the effects of Climate Change?
 

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Australia's carbon tax / ETS would be acting unilaterally. There is no working international system linking the big players like Japan, Russia and China

Signing the agreement matters not a jot, its signing up to binding emission cuts that does.
Which would be what they signed up to do, when they signed the Paris Agreement...

Which part of this do you not understand? Australia is acting in concert with 150+ other countries, it is not acting unilaterally.
 
Which would be what they signed up to do, when they signed the Paris Agreement...

Which part of this do you not understand? Australia is acting in concert with 150+ other countries, it is not acting unilaterally.

No they didnt. And yes a carbon tax would be. China and the US and Russia wont sign up to binding emission cuts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement

Lack of binding enforcement mechanism
Although the agreement was lauded by many, including French President François Hollande and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon,[68] criticism has also surfaced. For example, James Hansen, a former NASA scientist and a climate change expert, voiced anger that most of the agreement consists of "promises" or aims and not firm commitments.[88] He called the Paris talks a fraud with 'no action, just promises' and feels that only an across the board tax on CO2 emissions, something not part of the Paris Agreement, would force CO2 emissions down fast enough to avoid the worst effects of global warming.[88]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/jul/06/china.climatechange
China will not agree any form of binding target to reduce its soaring greenhouse gas emissions as part of a new international deal on climate change, a senior official confirmed yesterday.
 
Science tells us one thing. That Australia can reduce its carbon emissions to zero and it will have no statistical affect on global temperatures.
Nah
That’s not what the science tells us.
It’s precisely what Andrew Bolt tells you to think.
You good mindless drone you.
 
Emissions should not be a focus.
Environmental policy should be in our national interest.
Reducing plastic and waste.
Emission policies are nonsense and as pointed out, won’t stop the arctic melting no matter how many wind farms we build.
 
The ALP 51% leads the L-NP 49% on a two party preferred basis according to a face-to-face Roy Morgan Poll conducted on the Easter weekend of April 20/21, 2019 with a cross-section of 707 electors.

The tight result at Easter means the Roy Morgan Poll has swung by 1.5% to the L-NP since the prior surveying period of April 6/7 & 13/14, 2019.

Primary Voting Intention

The L-NP now has a primary vote of 39% (up 1.5%) and clearly ahead of the ALP on 35.5% (down 1%) while Greens support is down 1.5% to 9.5%.

Support for One Nation is up 1% to 4.5% while support for Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party is up 0.5% to 2%. Support for Independents/Others is now 9.5% (down 0.5%).

Roy Morgan Government Confidence

Roy Morgan Government Confidence has improved this week with 40% of electors saying Australia is now heading in the right direction, up 1% from a week earlier while 41% (down 1.5%) say Australia is heading in the wrong direction.

These results leave Government Confidence below the neutral level of 100 and indicate the ALP is still the favourite to win with early voting opening next week although the L-NP has closed the gap significantly during the last week.
 

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The ALP 51% leads the L-NP 49% on a two party preferred basis according to a face-to-face Roy Morgan Poll conducted on the Easter weekend of April 20/21, 2019 with a cross-section of 707 electors.

The tight result at Easter means the Roy Morgan Poll has swung by 1.5% to the L-NP since the prior surveying period of April 6/7 & 13/14, 2019.

Primary Voting Intention

The L-NP now has a primary vote of 39% (up 1.5%) and clearly ahead of the ALP on 35.5% (down 1%) while Greens support is down 1.5% to 9.5%.

Support for One Nation is up 1% to 4.5% while support for Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party is up 0.5% to 2%. Support for Independents/Others is now 9.5% (down 0.5%).

Roy Morgan Government Confidence

Roy Morgan Government Confidence has improved this week with 40% of electors saying Australia is now heading in the right direction, up 1% from a week earlier while 41% (down 1.5%) say Australia is heading in the wrong direction.

These results leave Government Confidence below the neutral level of 100 and indicate the ALP is still the favourite to win with early voting opening next week although the L-NP has closed the gap significantly during the last week.



Volatility reminds me of Ipsos polls, plus the small sample size brings into question this poll's reliability.

That said, polls do often tighten during election campaigns before going one way or the other on election eve.
 
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They said the pre polling for vic state election followed the most optimistic polls for the Libs .

But then bam, on the day a pitchforking for the Libs. Not so much the nats


I seriously can’t believe it’s this close , that’s what it was 2016 , Lab leading by 2% in the polls and they lost , worrying signs for them I think . LNP should be like 6-10% behind with there * ups over the years.
 
I seriously can’t believe it’s this close , that’s what it was 2016 , Lab leading by 2% in the polls and they lost , worrying signs for them I think . LNP should be like 6-10% behind with there **** ups over the years.

The polls throughout the 2016 election campaign hovered around 50-50 from memory.
 
I seriously can’t believe it’s this close , that’s what it was 2016 , Lab leading by 2% in the polls and they lost , worrying signs for them I think . LNP should be like 6-10% behind with there **** ups over the years.
If 2016 was a surprise result it was due to Liberals doing so poorly if anything
 
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Labor leading coalition, research shows The latest Voter Choice Project results published on Tuesday have Labor leading the coalition 52.8 to 47.2 per cent in two-party term


New research shows Labor remains on track to win the federal election as the coalition tries to defuse concerns about a controversial $80 million water buyback.

The latest Voter Choice Project results published on Tuesday have Labor leading the coalition 52.8 to 47.2 per cent in two-party terms.

The coalition's primary vote stood at 35.3 per cent, three points ahead of Labor, with the Greens polling 10.6 per cent and independents 7.8 per cent.
 
I am massively, massively out of touch with snobs in ultra high net worth seats that think parroting "climate change" is what political discourse in Australia should be. Yes. Proud of it too.
Support for action on climate change cuts across all electoral demographics. Keep repeating your mantra but the facts say otherwise and facts are what reality-based voters (the majority, don’t forget) prefer to deal in.
 
Support for action on climate change cuts across all electoral demographics. Keep repeating your mantra but the facts say otherwise and facts are what reality-based voters (the majority, don’t forget) prefer to deal in.
Climate Change ranks number 4 of the highest 10 issues for ALL voters at this election

Climate Change is as mainstream as Health, The Economy and Education, yet still we have the Flat Earthers trying to deny it....they will get there collective arses kicked and then wonder why their arse hurts
 

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