List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Cuzz09]

We are due to trade with Adelaide....

Split pick 2 for 6 and 15 and give 6 to Adelaide for the Fog

 

[WCE_Phill]

No way we should be splitting pick 2.

Use Hawks R1 and R2 to GC (to get Ports pick 7)

Use our R2 (forget sliders) and our 2xR3 for trades

I doubt we get need too many picks for our NGA and FS

Pick 1, 2 and 7 on Sharp, Cumming/Lindsay and Rodriguez

 

[sharps24]

if Cameron comes BW will be traded.
Barnett gone will make 10 list spots.
3 at ND, 3 NGA/FS unless we already know there are extra rookie spots we might take a 4th NGA.
Bazzo remains on a 1 year contract/if Busslinger comes Bazzo doesn't get a contract
Cripps gets a 1 year contract.
Livingstone gets a 1 year rookie.
Cole gets 2 years.
If the opportunity arises to cut deeper if we get our trade targets I can see Johnstone or Long traded.

Honestly, we can't be trading Bailey Williams. If Cameron comes he has to replace Flynn. But if we were smart, we'd save the money and the draft picks and back Bailey in as our first ruck, he just needs a competent midfield around him.

His last 5 games:





At the end of the day he is still 25. These numbers should be encouraging but like Jake Waterman in 2023 and Harry Edwards in 2024 people just inexplicably hate him and insist he's a bust. His combination of win % and hits to advantage % probably has him sitting in the top 3 most effective rucks in the comp recently. We'll regret swapping him for a 30 year old. If we want Cameron he'd for sure improve us as a Cameron/Bailey ruck duo would be one of the strongest going around but that sugar hit means eating Flynn and Barnetts contracts and wasting considerable draft capital. Not sure it's worth it really.

 

[eaglevision]

But if we were smart, we'd save the money and the draft picks and back Bailey in as our first ruck, he just needs a competent midfield around him.

So our midfield needs a competent ruck but our ruck needs a competent midfield…

 

[Barrybran]

We are due to trade with Adelaide....

Split pick 2 for 6 and 15 and give 6 to Adelaide for the Fog

If we traded with Adelaide it would probably be something along the lines of 2 for Curtin + 16

 

[Bender_]

If we traded with Adelaide it would probably be something along the lines of 2 for Curtin + 16

I'd do that for Curts in a heartbeat. Would throw in a punch in the head for Raschelle as a sweetener.

 

[Elite Pete]

I heard some whacky shit the other day, but it’s so bonkers youd laugh at me

Try us?

 

[Bender_]

Lach72 going full Phil and teasing info.

Either share or don't post about it.

 

[Cuzz09]

If we traded with Adelaide it would probably be something along the lines of 2 for Curtin + 16

yeah they'd love Sharp

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

Honestly, we can't be trading Bailey Williams. If Cameron comes he has to replace Flynn. But if we were smart, we'd save the money and the draft picks and back Bailey in as our first ruck, he just needs a competent midfield around him.

His last 5 games:
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At the end of the day he is still 25. These numbers should be encouraging but like Jake Waterman in 2023 and Harry Edwards in 2024 people just inexplicably hate him and insist he's a bust. His combination of win % and hits to advantage % probably has him sitting in the top 3 most effective rucks in the comp recently. We'll regret swapping him for a 30 year old. If we want Cameron he'd for sure improve us as a Cameron/Bailey ruck duo would be one of the strongest going around but that sugar hit means eating Flynn and Barnetts contracts and wasting considerable draft capital. Not sure it's worth it really.

He's playing 2nd ruck and from memory most of his contest are then against other teams 2nd rucks whilst Flynn and his opponent rest. For me he isnt a 1st ruck but a good 2nd ruck or ruck/forward

 

[WCE777]

I heard some whacky shit the other day, but it’s so bonkers youd laugh at me

if your lurking in here at least share

 

[The_Reaper]

Try us?

Fyfe next year so we reach the minimum salary cap floor.

 

[kane249]

Lach72 going full Phil and teasing info.

Either share or don't post about it.

Lach72 was on the other side of Clarke when he was frog marched out of the room last year on the Barrass trade

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

We are due to trade with Adelaide....

Split pick 2 for 6 and 15 and give 6 to Adelaide for the Fog

wot

 

[Bender_]

Lach72 was on the other side of Clarke when he was frog marched out of the room last year on the Barrass trade

Has his own hut on Whore Island too.

 

[Elite Pete]

Fyfe next year so we reach the minimum salary cap floor.

It wouldn’t surprise me and on a 3 year deal

 

[Lach72]

Lach72 going full Phil and teasing info.

Either share or don't post about it.

You’re not the boss of me man.

Can’t. We have a small group here that is given info…normally pretty reliable. This one is out there…and not related to Freo…but still…bonkers…

 

[ronpingwins]

You’re not the boss of me man.

Can’t. We have a small group here that is given info…normally pretty reliable. This one is out there…and not related to Freo…but still…bonkers…

Would we be happy or sad you think?

 

[WCE777]

Honestly, we can't be trading Bailey Williams. If Cameron comes he has to replace Flynn. But if we were smart, we'd save the money and the draft picks and back Bailey in as our first ruck, he just needs a competent midfield around him.

His last 5 games:
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At the end of the day he is still 25. These numbers should be encouraging but like Jake Waterman in 2023 and Harry Edwards in 2024 people just inexplicably hate him and insist he's a bust. His combination of win % and hits to advantage % probably has him sitting in the top 3 most effective rucks in the comp recently. We'll regret swapping him for a 30 year old. If we want Cameron he'd for sure improve us as a Cameron/Bailey ruck duo would be one of the strongest going around but that sugar hit means eating Flynn and Barnetts contracts and wasting considerable draft capital. Not sure it's worth it really.

My thoughts were he would reduce the draft capital cost by being traded.
He is not a bust at all, he just isn't a number 1 ruck or a preferred KPF ahead of Waterman/Shanahan/JW.
He is also incredibly durable.

I am more than happy to keep BW, he is a decent 2nd ruck and competes with all he has.
Develop A Reid for the next 3-4 years as a ruck replacement for D Cameron.
Would mean Livingstone stays on and develops to see if he has something.

 

[Lach72]

Would we be happy or sad you think?

More

 

[Bender_]

Sounds like we're finally getting Cam Ellis-Yolman.

 

[DirtySandman]

Hey gents, he recently signed a 3 yr extension until the end of 2029.
We love our Dan.

Stockholm syndrome

Still remember his sadness draft night

Free Dan

 

[southcoast]

pick 1 to Freo for Walters and Darcy

Nat Fyfe - come on down. Need a senior mid to help HR out.

 

[Bestbird]

The worst for mine is Naitanui.

AA ruckman 2021. Played 8 more games.

You can't plan for that. Obviously, otherwise we might have had a better ruck transition strategy than Barnett and Williams...

Yeah, Nic Nat is only a year and a half older than Gawn

 

[sharps24]

My thoughts were he would reduce the draft capital cost by being traded.
He is not a bust at all, he just isn't a number 1 ruck or a preferred KPF ahead of Waterman/Shanahan/JW.
He is also incredibly durable.

I am more than happy to keep BW, he is a decent 2nd ruck and competes with all he has.
Develop A Reid for the next 3-4 years as a ruck replacement for D Cameron.
Would mean Livingstone stays on and develops to see if he has something.

I would not be against getting Cameron in IF we used those bogus "have to trade these picks" draft assistance picks the AFL might give us. I might even like this idea.

But we would be stupid to the point of negligence to get rid of Bailey just because we get Cameron into the side.

We need a quality second ruck who can play forward. It has nothing to do with where he sits as a pure KPF the 2nd ruck spot needs to be someone who can play ruck well when Cameron rests. He also needs to be able to solo ruck the entire season if Cameron does his ACL the first day of preseason.

Jack Williams does a small amount of ruck work but has never played much more than 10 minutes in there in a game and there is no evidence he will ever be fit enough to play the role well, let alone be able to take the reins as first ruck if required. Archer Reid is potentially a great first ruck option but it's playing with fire to expect him to bust his arse as much as we ask Bailey to bust his arse if the idea is to swap them out. Livingstone has the Bailey competitive fire but he is undersized and do we really think he can be an upgrade on what Bailey brings? Why are we interested in making the team weaker overall? If we upgrade Flynn why does that mean we should downgrade Bailey?

I've said it before but with Jake back, and who knows this crazy club is liable to keep Oscar still as well, it's just hard to imagine a spot in the best 22 for Jack Williams. We honestly should be looking to trade him before anyone else if we bring in someone like Cameron. Collingwood could actually do with a big lump of a FF who's going to kick them goals for minimum wage, he is the win win for both clubs if we take Cameron off their hands. It then becomes far easier for us to manage the development of Jobe and Archer if we are no longer looking to shoehorn the big fundy into the mix. Both are versatile enough to play in the same side as Waterman and Bailey if we persist with the playing 3 rucks like we are now. Jake at FF, Jobe at CHF, Cameron Ruck, Bailey 2nd ruck, Archer into the mix as 2nd ruck where we want to play Bailey at CHF and release Jobe further up the ground so he's not being monstered by some of the really tough dual KPD set ups out there. And good as Jobe is, he's not ready for 23 games at CHF as a 20 year old so this is something we will have to look at doing.