List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[Byron_Clanger]

Here's something Father/Son related

72 hours to pick one up, all proceeds going to charity

 

[Wooshaaaa]

For our BigFooty physio's - How bad is Sam Cumming's shoulder?

Is a stabilisation better than a full reco? From what I can tell a stabilisation is more ligament based which sounds like it should be a more encouraging outcome...

Same thing.

Not an issue. Remember a certain chris judd had bad shoulders and fell to pick 3 BC of it.

 

[pantskyle]

Feel for Cumming but it might push him out to our Hawks first. Huge wishful thinking.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Feel for Cumming but it might push him out to our Hawks first. Huge wishful thinking.

Port's first pick will be good enough. Pick 14 and 30 for example is a points gain for pick 8.

 

[Art OF war]

Same thing.

Not an issue. Remember a certain chris judd had bad shoulders and fell to pick 3 BC of it.

I thought Judd fell because recruiters asked him what he needed to improve on, and he had to say something so he said his kicking and then all the recruiters got it into their heads that he was a shit kick

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I thought Judd fell because recruiters asked him what he needed to improve on, and he had to say something so he said his kicking and then all the recruiters got it into their heads that he was a shit kick

It was both shoulders that saw him slide.

To be fair Hodge and Ball were bloody good players. Just levels below Judd

 

[Art OF war]

Probably right, but ive heard Judd say this in an interview but that could be his own belief as to why he slipped to 3

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[Elite Pete]

Williams

 

[RanaNaved]

"Hey Tylah, you're starting to look good, do you mind if we come up with an injury to sideline you until the end of the year?"

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Do we think Duursma is a flight risk?

Assuming we take someone like Sharp, are we more comfortable taking the risk with Duursma or CDT?

Is there anyone else we should be focusing on with 1&2?

 

[Barrybran]

Do we think Duursma is a flight risk?

Assuming we take someone like Sharp, are we more comfortable taking the risk with Duursma or CDT?

Is there anyone else we should be focusing on with 1&2?

Lindsay is the other one. He isn't getting past Richmond.

 

[wadistance]

Do we think Duursma is a flight risk?

Assuming we take someone like Sharp, are we more comfortable taking the risk with Duursma or CDT?

Is there anyone else we should be focusing on with 1&2?

Take the best player in the draft with 1, split 2 for needs basis.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Lindsay is the other one. He isn't getting past Richmond.

Agree with that. Looking at their list build, an elite kick off half back is a big need. I think Cumming as a balanced mid is also high on their want list.

What we want to see is clubs fixated on players. My perfect scenario:-

Bombers fixated with Duursma and go 5 and 7 for 1. I realise they might want something else but this is perfect scenario

Tigers get wind we want Lindsay do offer up 3 and 4 for 2 and 7.

So we then sit either 3 4 5 and Hawks R1

Draft night
1 Duursma becomes a Drug Rat
2 Lindsay becomes a Tiger
3 Sharp becomes an Eagle
4 Cumming becomes an Eagle
5 Schubert becomes an Eagle
Hawks R1 and trade up we get two of Grlj, Farrow, Le Ray, Baker or Ainsworth. Two will be there since we upgrade our R2 and Hawks R2 with a Suns pick

Shannon Hurn in charge of settling the young Crow Eaters to the Eagles Znedt

Oh, and I’m ignoring where club tied players go

 

[Barrybran]

Agree with that. Looking at their list build, an elite kick off half back is a big need. I think Cumming as a balanced mid is also high on their want list.

What we want to see is clubs fixated on players. My perfect scenario:-

Bombers fixated with Duursma and go 5 and 7 for 1. I realise they might want something else but this is perfect scenario

Tigers get wind we want Lindsay do offer up 3 and 4 for 2 and 7.

So we then sit either 3 4 5 and Hawks R1

Draft night
1 Duursma becomes a Drug Rat
2 Lindsay becomes a Tiger
3 Sharp becomes an Eagle
4 Cumming becomes an Eagle
5 Schubert becomes an Eagle
Hawks R1 and trade up we get two of Grlj, Farrow, Le Ray, Baker or Ainsworth. Two will be there since we upgrade our R2 and Hawks R2 with a Suns pick

Shannon Hurn in charge of settling the young Crow Eaters to the Eagles Znedt

Oh, and I’m ignoring where club tied players go

Is Schubert really on our radar?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Is Schubert really on our radar?

He is on my radar. I don’t know about Massey.

A forward line of Shanahan and Schubert sound ideal

Archer Reid either CHB or ruck

Harley in the guts

Starting to look the goods

 

[eaglevision]

Do we think Duursma is a flight risk?

Assuming we take someone like Sharp, are we more comfortable taking the risk with Duursma or CDT?

Is there anyone else we should be focusing on with 1&2?

I cannot see a situation where we take anyone other than Duursma and Sharp with pick 1 and 2 IF we hold them.

I can see a situation where we are enticed to trade pick 1 (Duursma) but it would have to be heavily in our favour.

 

[MrWoollie]

It was both shoulders that saw him slide.

To be fair Hodge and Ball were bloody good players. Just levels below Judd

There were no losers having a pick in the top 3 that year.

Using 20/20 hindsight I'd rate them as

=1 Judd/Hodge.
Judd had the higher peak but Hodge was still elite and maintained it for longer.
We all know how good Judd was at WC but Hodge has an equally impressive resume.
Hodge played the most VFL/AFL games of any #1 (346 games played), is the only number-one draft pick to win a Norm Smith Medal, is one of just three number-one draft picks to have won a premiership, and has won the most premierships of any number-one draft pick (4)
3. Ball.
Was still extremely good but would have been even better in a decent setup. Could actually have been the best of the 3, but being at StK didn't do him any favours.

 

[Phas]

Lindsay is a rolls royce for mine. Farrow is a good back up option.

I remember another player being called a 'Rolls Royce' on the (now long deleted) 2014 AFL.com.au draft hub.

Spoiler: Rolls Royce

Duggan is the player who you'd want with the ball if you need someone to control a situation. He'll pick the right time to slow things down, but also has the nous to be ready to take things on, tuck the ball under his arm and go for a run.

He showed this season he can play all over the ground: as a deep small defender, an attacking half-back, a free-wheeling wingman, and a pretty complete midfielder.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I remember another player being called a 'Rolls Royce' on the (now long deleted) 2014 AFL.com.au draft hub.

Spoiler: Rolls Royce

Duggan is the player who you'd want with the ball if you need someone to control a situation. He'll pick the right time to slow things down, but also has the nous to be ready to take things on, tuck the ball under his arm and go for a run.

He showed this season he can play all over the ground: as a deep small defender, an attacking half-back, a free-wheeling wingman, and a pretty complete midfielder.

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In Duggan's defense he was too skilled for the WAFL where he mostly played half forward. Should have been developed as a midfielder in the WAFL but was rather light on physically.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

There were no losers having a pick in the top 3 that year.

Using 20/20 hindsight I'd rate them as

=1 Judd/Hodge.
Judd had the higher peak but Hodge was still elite and maintained it for longer.
We all know how good Judd was at WC but Hodge has an equally impressive resume.
Hodge played the most VFL/AFL games of any #1 (346 games played), is the only number-one draft pick to win a Norm Smith Medal, is one of just three number-one draft picks to have won a premiership, and has won the most premierships of any number-one draft pick (4)
3. Ball.
Was still extremely good but would have been even better in a decent setup. Could actually have been the best of the 3, but being at StK didn't do him any favours.

Luke Hodge won 2 Norm Smiths and is one of 4 players to win multiple Norm Smith Medals.

Ball was an awesome player and unsure what happened with him and RTB but Hodge and Judd were a tier above.

Judd a better individual player, but Hodge had intangibles. Hard to seperate.

 

[06Premiers]

Do we think Duursma is a flight risk?

Assuming we take someone like Sharp, are we more comfortable taking the risk with Duursma or CDT?

Is there anyone else we should be focusing on with 1&2?

Doesn't really matter if first or second, but Cumming should be the end goal.

Ideally first, but we always want to be nice guys this time of year so second would be ok.

 

[ziad]

Take the best player in the draft with 1, split 2 for needs basis.

well our need is the best player

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Relatively big 2 weeks when it comes to our picks .

We need Port to slip, Carlton to win, Melbourne to win 1 game and Hawthorn to lose .

It's hard to know what our strategy could be til we know who has what

A part of me thinks that if it ends up as 1 and 2 to us 3 and 4 to Richmond and Essendon pick 5 and we can trade with Gold Coast for pick 6 then Sharp could slip to pick 6 if we take Duursma and CDT

Duursma
CDT
Lindsay

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Relatively big 2 weeks when it comes to our picks .

We need Port to slip, Carlton to win, Melbourne to win 1 game and Hawthorn to lose .

It's hard to know what our strategy could be til we know who has what

A part of me thinks that if it ends up as 1 and 2 to us 3 and 4 to Richmond and Essendon pick 5 and we can trade with Gold Coast for pick 6 then Sharp could slip to pick 6 if we take Duursma and CDT

Duursma
CDT
Lindsay

If we take duursma and CDT I will throw up.

I can guarantee they won't be playing for the club after there initial 3 yr contract.