List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion

[Sunny Land]

I would prefer Smith to play deep. He can take a grab and kick a goal. He sucks as a ruck at the moment - he would be a liability there.

The problem with Henry is when it comes to forward defense…opposition defenders will always use his lack of pace to run the ball out of their defensive 50 and into attack. Its a real weakness that will hurt us come finals.

 

[martinson]

I guess to being privvy to some of the stuff inside the club we all support provides me with a different appreciation of the people who make this club tik. When someone on here bags a player in any specific game and I see the effort and pain any given player goes through week to week, its hard to let it sit. I’ll never forget many moments after a game or the day after a game that any player or coach suffers regardles of a win or loss. They give us so much enjoyment and go through so much. I guess i see some stuff the average supporter doesn’t and when its so far off the mark, I will say something.
I probably sometimes could express it a bit differently and more politically correct but I express it in the moment and in the best way i feel. Sorry if I offend sometimes but sometimes I feel offended for the player/coach/club that is bagged.

I understand.

I'm sure everyone is coming from a good place as well .Misguided or otherwise. It's only a footy blog SL, this particular one would be one of the most tolerant and mildest out there . I'm sure the players are educated by the club these days to not take derogatory comments to heart. Many comments and observations are well off the mark or just plain wrong.

It doesn't need to be a confrontation and shouldn't be taken personally. Everyone is supporting the club in the best way they know how.

Cheers.

 

[mattsmob]

The problem with Henry is when it comes to forward defense…opposition defenders will always use his lack of pace to run the ball out of their defensive 50 and into attack. Its a real weakness that will hurt us come finals.

This is a completely reasonable comment and opinion, it’s also the same type of comment that you take issue with other people for making

 

[Sunny Land]

This is a completely reasonable comment and opinion, it’s also the same type of comment that you take issue with other people for making

Naaah, dont think so. It’s different and not dis-respectful but you are entitiled to your opinion right or wrong.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Caro said on Agenda Setters earlier that whatever meeting had with all club representatives today that as of next year, Father / Son and Academy selections will be abolished from the first round of the draft.

What an over-reaction. I mean, provided clubs pay up, why get rid of them. I honestly can't believe the AFL has fallen for St Kilda's whingeing.

Swanns off to a great start - excuse my sarcasm.

So last pick of the first round no access, 1 pick later access?

 

[Lionwest]

Caro said on Agenda Setters earlier that whatever meeting had with all club representatives today that as of next year, Father / Son and Academy selections will be abolished from the first round of the draft.

What an over-reaction. I mean, provided clubs pay up, why get rid of them. I honestly can't believe the AFL has fallen for St Kilda's whingeing.

Swanns off to a great start - excuse my

Hopefully Caro’s mail is off the mark.

I’d say this decision is coming from above Swanny’s head if it is indeed made.

 

[M Malice]

Smith comes in ahead of Gallop. Has shown more at senior footy and in a cut throat match, Gallop won't cut it. Smith may not cut it either but Gallop isnt anywhere near senior football.

Bringing Gallop in is like having two underperforming ordinary Hipwood's.

Bringing Henry Smith into a team already containing Sam Day and Darcy Fort would leave us way too vulnerable on turnover in our F50, Hawks would stream out of there too easily IMO.

However we do know Ty Gallop would provide very good F50 defensive pressure and never give up in an aerial or ruck contest, he loves the physicality of the game.

I'd be fine with Smith coming in if one of Fort or Day went down.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Caro said on Agenda Setters earlier that whatever meeting had with all club representatives today that as of next year, Father / Son and Academy selections will be abolished from the first round of the draft.

What an over-reaction. I mean, provided clubs pay up, why get rid of them. I honestly can't believe the AFL has fallen for St Kilda's whingeing.

Swanns off to a great start - excuse my sarcasm.

Carlton are going to absolutely riot. They are all chips in on Cody Walker.

 

[M Malice]

Caro said on Agenda Setters earlier that whatever meeting had with all club representatives today that as of next year, Father / Son and Academy selections will be abolished from the first round of the draft.

What an over-reaction. I mean, provided clubs pay up, why get rid of them. I honestly can't believe the AFL has fallen for St Kilda's whingeing.

Swanns off to a great start - excuse my sarcasm.

No incentive for the clubs to even continue with the academy system at all if they don't get access to the best talent, I can understand if they bring in a restriction on first round bid matching eg. teams finishing out of the 8 get to match bids on unlimited/3 academy players, 5th-8th placed teams 2 bids matched, top 4 1 bid matched.

If the AFL want to bring in no access to first round academy bids the AFL can run it.

I really like the father/son system but I'd be fine with them getting rid of it altogether.

 

[Toffee Lion]

So we run an academy to benefit the AFL but not ourselves, why do it at all then? Out of the goodness of our heart?

 

[M Malice]

I just don’t get why clubs can’t match, even if there is no discount; it’s just so shortsighted and reactionary.

Yep, they could even make the club pay a premium for say top 10 bids, eg. no discount + you also have to come up with an extra 10% to match.. 3300 points to match a pick 1 bid. They could even lessen the value of those late picks further than they already have.

 

[Elixuh]

Maybe it means the AFL will entirely fund the academy in which case I’d be ok with it.

 

[Tom14]

Maybe it means the AFL will entirely fund the academy in which case I’d be ok with it.

They won't.

 

[Yippyio]

I’m not sure why anybody would think Smith is a good replacement for Hipwood. Not even close to being as mobile.
Gallop might be raw and developing, but applies very good defensive pressure and can take a grab.
From what I saw of both in the vfl on Sunday, it has to be Gallop.
A forward line with Day and Smith both in it, oh boy….

 

[Elixuh]

They won't.

Then it’s time to enter the next phase of our draft rorting journey.

Draft tampering.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Our academy boys can do what the Vic kids do - hint to other clubs that they do not want to leave QLD = flight risk. Draft them and we get them back in a couple of years. Up to you. There would be an uproar even though kids from the AFL states do it quite often.

 

[briztoon]

Carlton are going to absolutely riot. They are all chips in on Cody Walker.

Not just Carlton.

Port have been pushing hard to add Douggie Cochrane as an nga kid.

Essendon have Koby Bewick in 2027, and have been talking him up big time.

 

[Sproj]

Surely St Kilda don’t get their way, surely. You’d be appeasing a club with no relevance and few fans to tick off probably 90% of clubs and a greater than majority amount of fans. This not good business practice at all.

 

[braddsey]

On the academy & f/s, i’d be going with no discount, and to match a bid on a top-10 pick you need a round-1 draft pick.

 

[Nathan Barley]

On the academy & f/s, i’d be going with no discount, and to match a bid on a top-10 pick you need a round-1 draft pick.

Just make the points value higher

 

[Sunny Land]

Hopefully Caro’s mail is off the mark.

I’d say this decision is coming from above Swanny’s head if it is indeed made.

Caro’s mail on this one is pretty spot on.

 

[Sunny Land]

I’m not sure why anybody would think Smith is a good replacement for Hipwood. Not even close to being as mobile.
Gallop might be raw and developing, but applies very good defensive pressure and can take a grab.
From what I saw of both in the vfl on Sunday, it has to be Gallop.
A forward line with Day and Smith both in it, oh boy….

Ty’s & Henry’s game on Sunday in the vfl didnt fill me with excitement. The club knew about Hippy being out before the vfl ran out to play and I would have thought energy levels from both Smith & Ty would have been at their best. It was a little underwhelming.
That said, Gallop will provide defensive pressure.

 

[dlanod]

Carlton are going to absolutely riot. They are all chips in on Cody Walker.

Swann has a long memory...

 

[Dalions]

Swanny said in one of his first interviews after being appointed that he thinks it should be given a couple of years under the new points system before making any decisions on Academy and Father Sons.
Makes perfect sense, so if it is being abolished for first rounders, then it wasn’t his decision.

 

[Full Wingspan]

I've always believed that free agency, academy picks and F/S picks should be restricted based on a team's finishing position the prior year. E.g. top 4 placed clubs do not get a discount or cannot match a bid on a academy or F/S pick in the top 10.

The secret herbs and spices should also be abolished or reduced to limit free agency compensation for players who depart top 4/8 sides.

It's absurd that the reigning premier can get the wooden spooner's captain for free. I was frustrated when Hawthorn took full advantage of the system in the 10's and I can understand other fan's frustration now.

A flat ban on picks inside the first round is reactionary IMO.