List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Key Dates

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: FA Moves/Trades

Player/Picks​	Original Team​	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?​	Compo​
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: [PLAYERCARD]Brandon Starcevich[/PLAYERCARD], R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: [PLAYERCARD]Liam Ryan[/PLAYERCARD], 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: [PLAYERCARD]Brody Mihocek[/PLAYERCARD], R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: [PLAYERCARD]Ben Ainsworth[/PLAYERCARD] GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: [PLAYERCARD]Will Brodie[/PLAYERCARD] FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: [PLAYERCARD]Connor Budarick[/PLAYERCARD], R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Fiorini[/PLAYERCARD] GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:[PLAYERCARD]Changkuoth Jiath[/PLAYERCARD] HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD] STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD] MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: [PLAYERCARD]Christian Petracca[/PLAYERCARD], R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: [PLAYERCARD]Will Hayward[/PLAYERCARD], R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: [PLAYERCARD]Charlie Curnow[/PLAYERCARD]. R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

Zac Merrett - requests a trade to Hawthorn
[PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD] - Pies have registered interest in Jy
[PLAYERCARD]Rowan Marshall[/PLAYERCARD] -  requested a trade to Geelong
Devon Robertson - requests a trade to West Coast
[PLAYERCARD]Callum Ah Chee[/PLAYERCARD] - requests a trade to Adelaide
Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to a Victorian Club

Spoiler: Media Interviews

Simpkin 'unlikely' to remain captain, North take 'strong' stance

North Melbourne footy boss Todd Viney reflects on Jy Simpkin's failed bid to leave the club and what comes next for the club's skipper

www.afl.com.au

Rawlings reviews Trade Period after Simpkin offer, Maley move

Head of football talent Brady Rawlings reviews the Roos' 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period

www.nmfc.com.au

EXPLAINER: All the details about Free Agency, Trade Period

Here's everything you need to know about the Trade Period, Free Agency and more

www.afl.com.au

 

[pupstar]

We’ll see in 2026. However, Duursma has more talent in his excrement than Whitlock has. Whitlock has a long way to go for a pick 4. He’s no where near it

Complete different players.

 

[winalotroos]

Daniltchenko You Beauty can you sit there and tell me you see no difference between pick 4 Duursma and Pick 4 Whitlock?

Duursma has 10x the talent. And work rate? Im looking forward to seeing how Whitlock comes in with a full pre season, have to take into account Duurs didn’t have a pre season in his second year.

Personally, its looking like the worst decision this club has EVER made in draft history. This club has had some absolute shockers too

Wow that’s a big call

 

[desie]

Wouldn't mind a future pick from any club taking Simpkin or is it Impkins. You lot realise if he plays against us it will be the first time he'd be hitting north players on the tit by foot. Be rather novel.

I'd take 2 later first rounders for him. And I don't mind him, but yeah his disposal is horrific.

Rumpelsimpkin

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Just having a quick look through Ralph's tweets of days gone by. Nowhere else that I can find in a quick search is there such an impassioned opinion about what a player is worth and what his club should/shouldn't accept in a trade. That Collingwood PR machine is whirring.

Did you go back as far as last year when he was calling for pick 6 for the tigers well before the trade period started?

 

[Horace]

Ralphy old son. We don't even care what the Pies are prepared to offer. He is contracted to the North Melbourne Football Club. They can either pay the price for Jy now, or pay the price at the end of next year when they fall off the cliff as their three 35 year old plus veterans exit the MCG motorcade on Grand Final Day and head off to apply for their beds in their respective Nursing Homes (more or less).

Jy is a 27 year old dual B&F winner and they might just need him then to fill their leadership void. Not only that but he has many years experience playing at a bottom two club. With any luck he will help them out there as hopefully they languish at the foot of the ladder for a few (or many more) years.

 

[Karanicolas]

Only the highlights from the indigenous all stars game

Definitely not that turnover in the last quarter against the Suns in Gather Round when we had all the momentum …

Not that I am still suffering PTSD from it!!

 

[Horace]

Simpkin is 3 years older with concussion history.

In 3 year's time Simpkin will be 30. Flanders with be the same age as Simpkin is now.

I would back Flanders to be a better player next year, at best they'll be comparable. But you get Flanders for twice as long, so I think it's pretty clear that Flanders has more trade value than Simpkin.

This has got absolutely nothing to do with Flanders. This is about the Collingwood FC casually seeking to low ball us. Why? Because they just think they can.

Its time for us to just tell them to pay up or go and get stuffed.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Due diligence on hollands based on if todays age article is legit?
Would come free i suspect. Elite talent forward of centre. Seems a big need and is a throw at stumps for 1 year.

Link please

 

[Epictetus]

This has got absolutely nothing to do with Flanders. This is about the Collingwood FC casually seeking to low ball us. Why? Because they just think they can.

Its time for us to just tell them to pay up or go and get stuffed.

The poor me excuse and the hand wringing is just weak bullshit.

Of course they are low balling. Every single club, every single entity in the world!!!, goes into every single negotiation trying to get stuff for less than what might be deemed fair.

North's captain clearly wants out. His contract length is our fault. His form and character and lack of commitment is his, and again, we chose to give him the contract and the captaincy.

We are weak because we choose to be. I'm tired of it.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Simple fact is whoever wants him pays overs or he stays and plays VFL on absolute bogs during the middle of winter.

 

[tmpies01]

The Collingwood board is very underwhelmed by Simpkin. We need to post a highlights reel over there

I’m not. I’m on board

On a serious note I’m not sure how it gets done unless maybe a club like GWS get involved, if you guys really want Aleer. I’m fine with paying a F1 but highly doubt Collingwood are at this stage.

 

[shinboner magic]

Daniltchenko You Beauty can you sit there and tell me you see no difference between pick 4 Duursma and Pick 4 Whitlock?

Duursma has 10x the talent. And work rate? Im looking forward to seeing how Whitlock comes in with a full pre season, have to take into account Duurs didn’t have a pre season in his second year.

Personally, its looking like the worst decision this club has EVER made in draft history. This club has had some absolute shockers too

We’ve had many worse trades over the years

Whitlock hasn’t even grown into his body yet and wasn’t expected to in year 1
Comeback in 2027/8 then speak

 

[Roo202]

Link please

I think this is the article, nothing linking him to us, it is about his off field issues being genuine mental health issues, not a partyboy/badboy lifestyle and he's keen to play good footy, with his preference being at the Blues;

Elijah Hollands was not out partying in the first half of 2025.
He wasn’t risking his AFL career by living the fast life.
The Carlton midfielder was not being a ratbag. He was struggling to keep things on track.

His first attempt to nip things in the bud when he went on indefinite leave before the Blues’ round one clash against Richmond alerted the football public that there was a problem.

But it was not until a horror experience during the round 10 match against Sydney in mid-May that he decided, with Carlton’s support, to take the “serious reset” he needed and address his challenges.
And that reset has worked. It put him back on track to attack his football future with the confidence that he has the tools and strategies to revive his career, either at the Blues, where he has another year remaining on his contract, or at another club if it comes to that.
“A big part of this year has just been walking around with guilt and shame,” he told The Age.
“It was hard to bite that bullet and make that decision and go away again [mid-season] and take some leave.
“I was feeling like I was letting so many people down not being able to be [at the club] and available for friends and family.

“Getting the support back from the club and from family and friends, saying it was the right thing to do, gave me some comfort and some reassurance that I was doing the right thing, and I should attack it with 100 per cent [effort].”
The journey started as Hollands’ mental health began deteriorating towards the end of last year, and he began distancing himself from key support networks in his life.
After flagging his mental health struggles with key leaders in the football department in January, he had to fess up that, despite the support he’d received, he wasn’t on top of his struggles when round one rolled around in March.
Both coach Michael Voss and Hollands decided the best option was a break.
Many assumptions were made about what was ailing Hollands – who had been traded back from the Gold Coast at the end of 2023 – and the lifestyle he was leading.

Social media had a field day with rumours, but there was neither glamour nor scandal in what Hollands was experiencing in the early months of this year.

Hollands had a battle with alcohol, an issue he was aware was part of his family history.
“In some of the darker times, I turned to alcohol to cope with some of the stresses I had been putting myself under, and the mental fatigue and battles I had been going through.” Hollands said.
“It very much has been a thing I have done in isolation, which is obviously a battle. It hasn’t been a thing where I have been out with mates and taking things too far in public areas – it’s been in isolation and at home.”

Hollands hoped the short break would be a circuit breaker where he could work on some of the issues that contributed to how he was feeling, and then get going again.
“It was sitting in the back of my mind that I was missing footy,” Hollands said.
He watched the Blues lose their first three games, thinking, ‘I should be out there’.
“There is certainly that element that you are letting your teammates down, and you are letting your club and your fans down by not being out there participating,” Hollands said.
He began training again and returned to the team alongside his brother Ollie by round six – his elite decision-making, foot skills and courage helping the Blues rebound as they won three of his first four games. He then headed to Sydney to face the Swans on a Friday night.

“I was just having a horrible game,” he recalled.

“I was not doing any of the things I would usually do typically well, which was playing with me.
“I remember just feeling like a complete pedestrian out there. In the last quarter I came off the ground and I just could not breathe. I went to the bench and told our psychologist I could not breathe – I could not settle down, [and] my head was spinning. I was almost having a mini-panic attack, which I had never experienced before out on the field,” Hollands said.
“Obviously, even during that period when I returned to the AFL side this year, there were things I was working on behind the scenes, but I felt like it never really translated to on the field. I felt like football has always been a place of comfort for me, but just on this night in Sydney it reached a new level where I felt like that feeling and emotion was coming out with me on the ground.

“It was a pretty worrying moment because footy had been somewhere I could go to, and all those thoughts I was having away from the club would just disappear, so it was really confronting to have that for the first time, where it really showed up [on the field].”
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In the days following, Hollands could not shake a feeling of guilt and shame about his performance after the Blues’ 16-point loss saw them falling behind in the season’s race.
“I was turning to alcohol to numb that feeling,” he said.
The club and Hollands mutually agreed the time had arrived for him to have what he describes as “a serious reset”.

He was admitted to a mental health retreat where he spent four weeks dealing with experts helping him understand his underlying challenges, and to equip himself with the tools and strategies to make lasting change.
“It has been the best thing possible for me – I learned so much during that time. I came out of that, I guess, being myself again, which was the main thing,” Hollands said.
“I’ve seen or heard numerous times that it is a party thing, or that I don’t care enough about the game, or I don’t want to be a professional and I am out doing all sorts of things, whereas really it’s been [that] I isolated myself from the people closest to me and knocked back support and tried to deal with this thing on my own.”
Hollands emerged from the facility and spent time reintegrating into his normal life, before returning to the club and reaching a goal to play a couple of VFL matches before the season ended. He showed in the two matches he played he had not lost his talent.

“I felt like that was going to be really important moving into the break, to get a bit of positive momentum going into the off-season,” Hollands said.
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So he was a little surprised when the Blues suggested he explore his options, but he was not upset. His first thought was gratitude for the support they had given him when he was at his lowest.
“I understand now there is some change happening at the club, and I can see why the club has asked me to be part of that change,” he said. “For me, the most important thing is to keep continuing with the processes I have put in place to help me get better over this period.”
On Friday morning he trained with Carlton teammates, as he has since the season ended. “I feel fit. I feel strong, and I’m ready to hopefully attack a pre-season,” he said.

He hopes that will be at Carlton because he wants to repay the faith and the support he received to get his life back on track.
Hollands now knows he can’t stop working on maintaining positive mental health. He has not had a drink since his mid-season reset, and realises he can’t just tick boxes and rebound.
“Prior to my experiences [with mental health challenges], I was pretty negligent on it, to be honest,” he admitted.
“I just thought that was not going to impact me.
“It is like an injury. I did my knee in 2020 and the day before, if you had asked me if I ever thought I’d do my knee, I would have said, ‘No way’. You just think it is never going to impact you, and then it did. It has been a big learning year.”

The gratitude he has for the support his brother Ollie, the rest of his family and the club gave him is clear. And most importantly, so is his outlook on life.
“I know I can turn this into a really positive learning experience for me and that, whatever is next for me, I am extremely committed to and looking forward to whatever opportunity may pop up,” Hollands said.

 

[shinboner magic]

Could the 2 firsts comment be angled towards * who will have top 10 picks available if merrett leaves

 

[JGreezy]

This has got absolutely nothing to do with Flanders. This is about the Collingwood FC casually seeking to low ball us. Why? Because they just think they can.

Its time for us to just tell them to pay up or go and get stuffed.

I was specifically responding to people saying that Simpkin has way more trade value than Flanders.

I don't disagree with the idea of demanding a worthwhile return for Simpkin.

 

[DocSholl]

Excellent that Jy has become a 2-time b&f gun again, bodes well for 2016

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Could the 2 firsts comment be angled towards * who will have top 10 picks available if merrett leaves

But of dual projection from both clubs on this one, so I wouldn’t be totally surprised if we are going to angle back to *.

 

[DuckYeah]

Wow that’s a big call

Nah.. he’s a project player taken with pick 4

 

[remfan101]

I think this is the article, nothing linking him to us, it is about his off field issues being genuine mental health issues, not a partyboy/badboy lifestyle and he's keen to play good footy, with his preference being at the Blues;

Elijah Hollands was not out partying in the first half of 2025.
He wasn’t risking his AFL career by living the fast life.
The Carlton midfielder was not being a ratbag. He was struggling to keep things on track.

His first attempt to nip things in the bud when he went on indefinite leave before the Blues’ round one clash against Richmond alerted the football public that there was a problem.

But it was not until a horror experience during the round 10 match against Sydney in mid-May that he decided, with Carlton’s support, to take the “serious reset” he needed and address his challenges.
And that reset has worked. It put him back on track to attack his football future with the confidence that he has the tools and strategies to revive his career, either at the Blues, where he has another year remaining on his contract, or at another club if it comes to that.
“A big part of this year has just been walking around with guilt and shame,” he told The Age.
“It was hard to bite that bullet and make that decision and go away again [mid-season] and take some leave.
“I was feeling like I was letting so many people down not being able to be [at the club] and available for friends and family.

“Getting the support back from the club and from family and friends, saying it was the right thing to do, gave me some comfort and some reassurance that I was doing the right thing, and I should attack it with 100 per cent [effort].”
The journey started as Hollands’ mental health began deteriorating towards the end of last year, and he began distancing himself from key support networks in his life.
After flagging his mental health struggles with key leaders in the football department in January, he had to fess up that, despite the support he’d received, he wasn’t on top of his struggles when round one rolled around in March.
Both coach Michael Voss and Hollands decided the best option was a break.
Many assumptions were made about what was ailing Hollands – who had been traded back from the Gold Coast at the end of 2023 – and the lifestyle he was leading.

Social media had a field day with rumours, but there was neither glamour nor scandal in what Hollands was experiencing in the early months of this year.

Hollands had a battle with alcohol, an issue he was aware was part of his family history.
“In some of the darker times, I turned to alcohol to cope with some of the stresses I had been putting myself under, and the mental fatigue and battles I had been going through.” Hollands said.
“It very much has been a thing I have done in isolation, which is obviously a battle. It hasn’t been a thing where I have been out with mates and taking things too far in public areas – it’s been in isolation and at home.”

Hollands hoped the short break would be a circuit breaker where he could work on some of the issues that contributed to how he was feeling, and then get going again.
“It was sitting in the back of my mind that I was missing footy,” Hollands said.
He watched the Blues lose their first three games, thinking, ‘I should be out there’.
“There is certainly that element that you are letting your teammates down, and you are letting your club and your fans down by not being out there participating,” Hollands said.
He began training again and returned to the team alongside his brother Ollie by round six – his elite decision-making, foot skills and courage helping the Blues rebound as they won three of his first four games. He then headed to Sydney to face the Swans on a Friday night.

“I was just having a horrible game,” he recalled.

“I was not doing any of the things I would usually do typically well, which was playing with me.
“I remember just feeling like a complete pedestrian out there. In the last quarter I came off the ground and I just could not breathe. I went to the bench and told our psychologist I could not breathe – I could not settle down, [and] my head was spinning. I was almost having a mini-panic attack, which I had never experienced before out on the field,” Hollands said.
“Obviously, even during that period when I returned to the AFL side this year, there were things I was working on behind the scenes, but I felt like it never really translated to on the field. I felt like football has always been a place of comfort for me, but just on this night in Sydney it reached a new level where I felt like that feeling and emotion was coming out with me on the ground.

“It was a pretty worrying moment because footy had been somewhere I could go to, and all those thoughts I was having away from the club would just disappear, so it was really confronting to have that for the first time, where it really showed up [on the field].”
Loading
In the days following, Hollands could not shake a feeling of guilt and shame about his performance after the Blues’ 16-point loss saw them falling behind in the season’s race.
“I was turning to alcohol to numb that feeling,” he said.
The club and Hollands mutually agreed the time had arrived for him to have what he describes as “a serious reset”.

He was admitted to a mental health retreat where he spent four weeks dealing with experts helping him understand his underlying challenges, and to equip himself with the tools and strategies to make lasting change.
“It has been the best thing possible for me – I learned so much during that time. I came out of that, I guess, being myself again, which was the main thing,” Hollands said.
“I’ve seen or heard numerous times that it is a party thing, or that I don’t care enough about the game, or I don’t want to be a professional and I am out doing all sorts of things, whereas really it’s been [that] I isolated myself from the people closest to me and knocked back support and tried to deal with this thing on my own.”
Hollands emerged from the facility and spent time reintegrating into his normal life, before returning to the club and reaching a goal to play a couple of VFL matches before the season ended. He showed in the two matches he played he had not lost his talent.

“I felt like that was going to be really important moving into the break, to get a bit of positive momentum going into the off-season,” Hollands said.
Loading
So he was a little surprised when the Blues suggested he explore his options, but he was not upset. His first thought was gratitude for the support they had given him when he was at his lowest.
“I understand now there is some change happening at the club, and I can see why the club has asked me to be part of that change,” he said. “For me, the most important thing is to keep continuing with the processes I have put in place to help me get better over this period.”
On Friday morning he trained with Carlton teammates, as he has since the season ended. “I feel fit. I feel strong, and I’m ready to hopefully attack a pre-season,” he said.

He hopes that will be at Carlton because he wants to repay the faith and the support he received to get his life back on track.
Hollands now knows he can’t stop working on maintaining positive mental health. He has not had a drink since his mid-season reset, and realises he can’t just tick boxes and rebound.
“Prior to my experiences [with mental health challenges], I was pretty negligent on it, to be honest,” he admitted.
“I just thought that was not going to impact me.
“It is like an injury. I did my knee in 2020 and the day before, if you had asked me if I ever thought I’d do my knee, I would have said, ‘No way’. You just think it is never going to impact you, and then it did. It has been a big learning year.”

The gratitude he has for the support his brother Ollie, the rest of his family and the club gave him is clear. And most importantly, so is his outlook on life.
“I know I can turn this into a really positive learning experience for me and that, whatever is next for me, I am extremely committed to and looking forward to whatever opportunity may pop up,” Hollands said.

I really hope we look at him.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Safe Space Ralph needs to STFU.

 

[ExorcismOfArdenStreet]

He was jacking himself off last year telling everyone rioli was worth pick 8 and 23 and Bolton 3 first rounders and pushing the agenda as he supports them. Funny how the media pick and choose which agenda to push. Is Jy worth all that? No, but we don't need to sell so GTFO or pony up something worthwhile. About time the club didn't bend themselves over before negotiations even begin

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The use of media shills to dictate draft value is hilarious.

They’re an absolute scourge on the sport.

 

[Flawed Genius]

He was jacking himself off last year telling everyone rioli was worth pick 8 and 23 and Bolton 3 first rounders and pushing the agenda as he supports them. Funny how the media pick and choose which agenda to push. Is Jy worth all that? No, but we don't need to sell so GTFO or pony up something worthwhile. About time the club didn't bend themselves over before negotiations even begin

 

[Flawed Genius]

So when it's Rioli we are "not judging what he's worth, just saying what they would ask for", but when it's Simpkin, he's "not worth two first rounders" and "maybe a top 15 pick"

 

[shinboner magic]

So when it's Rioli we are "not judging what he's worth, just saying what they would ask for", but when it's Simpkin, he's "not worth two first rounders" and "maybe a top 15 pick"

Someone should pass this onto Jon goldfish Ralph