List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Key Dates

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: FA Moves/Trades

Player/Picks​	Original Team​	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?​	Compo​
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: [PLAYERCARD]Brandon Starcevich[/PLAYERCARD], R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: [PLAYERCARD]Liam Ryan[/PLAYERCARD], 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: [PLAYERCARD]Brody Mihocek[/PLAYERCARD], R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: [PLAYERCARD]Ben Ainsworth[/PLAYERCARD] GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: [PLAYERCARD]Will Brodie[/PLAYERCARD] FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: [PLAYERCARD]Connor Budarick[/PLAYERCARD], R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: [PLAYERCARD]Brayden Fiorini[/PLAYERCARD] GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:[PLAYERCARD]Changkuoth Jiath[/PLAYERCARD] HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: [PLAYERCARD]Jack Steele[/PLAYERCARD] STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD] MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: [PLAYERCARD]Christian Petracca[/PLAYERCARD], R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: [PLAYERCARD]Will Hayward[/PLAYERCARD], R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: [PLAYERCARD]Charlie Curnow[/PLAYERCARD]. R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

Zac Merrett - requests a trade to Hawthorn
[PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD] - Pies have registered interest in Jy
[PLAYERCARD]Rowan Marshall[/PLAYERCARD] -  requested a trade to Geelong
Devon Robertson - requests a trade to West Coast
[PLAYERCARD]Callum Ah Chee[/PLAYERCARD] - requests a trade to Adelaide
Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to a Victorian Club

Spoiler: Media Interviews

Simpkin 'unlikely' to remain captain, North take 'strong' stance

North Melbourne footy boss Todd Viney reflects on Jy Simpkin's failed bid to leave the club and what comes next for the club's skipper

www.afl.com.au

Rawlings reviews Trade Period after Simpkin offer, Maley move

Head of football talent Brady Rawlings reviews the Roos' 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period

www.nmfc.com.au

EXPLAINER: All the details about Free Agency, Trade Period

Here's everything you need to know about the Trade Period, Free Agency and more

www.afl.com.au

 

[My Left Foote]

A subtle shift in the narrative delivered by none other than the AFL's favourite boys. Let's see where it goes from here.

 

[My Left Foote]

A good first round pick, in a shit draft that will get pushed back by bids. No thanks.

Nowhere was it mentioned that it was this draft.

 

[My Left Foote]

This is why you started negotiations high. Not sure why Brady is so late to the game with this tactic.

Because this might be the first time in recent dealings that Brady holds the upper hand, just about every other trade we've been desperate to get the player and the opposition know it. With both this and the potential Aleer trade, things are actually in our favour.

 

[krakouers]

Put CJ and Aleer and all of a sudden we have spring and agility.

And more free flowing football against us...

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Part of me agrees with you. But then again, we are desperate for experience, go after blokes like Parker, while happily giving away a player in his prime, a captain no less? Doesn't make a lot of sense. And taking his wage off our books is hardly a pressing need. Who else are we going to pay, that we couldn't otherwise? Not to mention, there is every chance that part of his contract will remain on our books as Collingwood won't be able to fit all of it under their cap.

All I can is nobody at North would have thought about trading away Simpkin four weeks ago. He put himself on the market. Now we are presented opportunities we didn't have earlier and have the blessing of not bothering to do anything if we choose not to. I just heavily suspect if an eventual trade was less what we said (not that we've ever come out and said two first rounders is the value) and more than what they are parroting then nobody in our club would think we got rolled over on it.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

A subtle shift in the narrative delivered by no other than the AFL's favourite boys. Let's see where it goes from here.

Twomey and Beveridge are a bit more professional than most afl journalists.

 

[New_Roo]

But here’s the thing.

We don’t need it. We have 40+ other players.

i wasnt talking about Simpkin. You asked in what situation you wouldnt sell an asset if offered more than its worth

 

[giantroo]

Where do things stand with [PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD]?​

By Marc McGowan, Michael Gleeson and Peter Ryan​

North Melbourne captain [PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD] was unhappy about being pushed out of an inside midfield role onto the wing late in the season despite having some of his most prolific performances there. Collingwood have expressed interest in Simpkin, but the problem is brokering a deal.

On the move? North Melbourne captain [PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD].Credit: Getty Images


The 27-year-old dual best-and-fairest is contracted until the end of 2029, and the Roos don’t need salary cap relief, so there is little incentive for them to trade him. North told the Pies they would need two first-round picks to budge on Simpkin, who is yet to request a trade.

That stance might soften, but Collingwood’s best pick this year is No.39, so they would have to use future selections or trade with a third club. The Magpies are reluctant to entertain trading one first-round pick for Simpkin, let alone two. Simpkin will likely stay at Arden Street, but there is time for that to change.

 

[Delphy]

"Market Price" as a concept is somewhat illusory.

There are 2 relevant prices - the price the purchaser is prepared to pay and the price the seller is prepared to accept. Sometimes those can be massaged/negotiated to the point of agreement, which is the classic definition of "market price". BUT if another buyer comes in and is prepared to pay more, then suddenly you have another "market price". In quick succession you have 2 different figures.

The only relevant figure from the seller's point of view is the value they themselves put on the asset. If someone is prepared to pay's overs (or at least seller's value), great - sell. If not keep.

Question is therefore what is Jy's value to us.

My concern is that whatever value we might extract would not prise out an equivalent or better trade to us. Best we could hope for is hitting the jackpot in the draft (ie a maybe rather than known).

 

[big_e]

Jy for Jordan - I reckon its happening.

Crazy talk.

 

[DesertRoo]

No thanks.
Is quick but a bit of a butcher.

Before injury, he covered the ground really well, kicking wasn’t bad, probably because he was explosive enough be clear when kicking it.

would be in direct competition for LMacs spot or he’d take a wing.

 

[giantroo]

3:35 in re Jy and Leek

TRADE DESK: Gun Lion locked in, will Swans be swayed to depart?

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge bring you the latest trade news

www.afl.com.au

 

[William Caresser]

There's a couple of big unknowns in this whole thing - how bad is the relationship between Jy and Clarko? And do senior players actually want him back at the club as the reality of this has sunk in?

If it's really bad with Clarko, one reason you'd still keep him instead of accepting potential unders is because Jy will need to play well in 2026 to attract interest this time next year. He might not talk to Clarko all year but it's in his interests to play well. The second reason would be to show other clubs that the club doesn't just cave in (anymore). Third would be to use the year to speak to multiple clubs and get the best deal in return, not rush a deal through with one club.

However, the reasons to accept unders (if it's really bad with Clarko) would be to avoid a disgruntled ex captain bringing the whole atmosphere/vibe down; or him undermining the new leaders, forming cliques, causing rifts etc.

If senior players don't want him at the club as sh!t has become increasingly real, Brady might not be in as strong a position as we think.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Do we throw our hat in the ring for Jiath?

Jiath I think would’ve stayed if scrimshaw requested out to us

Wonder if clarko has a close relationship and rates cj too

 

[Flawed Genius]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of [PLAYERCARD]Jy Simpkin[/PLAYERCARD] and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment"

 

[Blightys Barrel]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of Jy Simpkin and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment"

Missed a little on that PR piece

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of Jy Simpkin and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment after watching his Clanger and Momentum Lost package from 2025 that ran for just short of an hour.”

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of Jy Simpkin and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment"

They’ve had ample opportunity to walk away.

Instead they’ve engaged the media shills to run their lines.

They’re balls deep.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of Jy Simpkin and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment"

I think they seriously thought they would get a cheap mid-trade period salary cap kill. Probably made promises to Jy too. Bit of a self made crisis for them.

 

[DesertRoo]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has explored its options regarding a recruitment of Jy Simpkin and based on due diligence will not be progressing with his recruitment"

Let's be honest here, Collingwood would've been in his ear for minimum 12 months, none of this stuff happens overnight.
They rate him, but previously they could say but we don't have the assets to trade accept our offer North. Its all we have..

The landscape changed when the AFL wiped how many firsts a club could trade, now they are just sulking. He's not worth that much yada yada yada.

 

[My Left Foote]

If Collingwood didn't want him and wasn't prepared to explore a deal to get the picks they needs for him they would have already said so.

"Collingwood has tried to bully North Melbourne via the media into accepting a lesser pick for its Captain Jy Simpkin and unfortunately it hasn't worked. In previous dealings with Brady Rawlings we've been able to bend him over, but not this time. This doesn't auger well for the competition"

EFA

 

[Ichiro #51]

All I can is nobody at North would have thought about trading away Simpkin four weeks ago. He put himself on the market. Now we are presented opportunities we didn't have earlier and have the blessing of not bothering to do anything if we choose not to. I just heavily suspect if an eventual trade was less what we said (not that we've ever come out and said two first rounders is the value) and more than what they are parroting then nobody in our club would think we got rolled over on it.

I still find it completely bizarre the way Jy has handled this. I don’t know what role his manager has played, but if you assume he’s there to serve the best wishes of his client, he and Jy have really ****ed this up.

It seems as if they did **** all groundwork and the result for Jy is that he doesn’t get what he wants, and also makes himself look a bit of a penis.

 

[William Caresser]

I'd argue this one the other way.

Collingwood want to grab an off the books listing from an old granny who is happy to stay put.

Pay up or FRO.

Sure but if the relationship between Clarko and Jy, or Jy and other players has really deteriorated, we actually may need to sell up. The place may have black mould and Brady is doing his best to pretend it doesn't, not letting people look under the carpets, but he knows this place has to go.

 

[Twinkletoes]

I still find it completely bizarre the way Jy has handled this. I don’t know what role his manager has played….

As I explained last week, Trotter played no part in this and in fact expressed dismay. This is all on Jy.

 

[winalotroos]

Where do things stand with Jy Simpkin?​

By Marc McGowan, Michael Gleeson and Peter Ryan​

North Melbourne captain Jy Simpkin was unhappy about being pushed out of an inside midfield role onto the wing late in the season despite having some of his most prolific performances there. Collingwood have expressed interest in Simpkin, but the problem is brokering a deal.

On the move? North Melbourne captain Jy Simpkin.Credit: Getty Images


The 27-year-old dual best-and-fairest is contracted until the end of 2029, and the Roos don’t need salary cap relief, so there is little incentive for them to trade him. North told the Pies they would need two first-round picks to budge on Simpkin, who is yet to request a trade.

That stance might soften, but Collingwood’s best pick this year is No.39, so they would have to use future selections or trade with a third club. The Magpies are reluctant to entertain trading one first-round pick for Simpkin, let alone two. Simpkin will likely stay at Arden Street, but there is time for that to change.

And there you have it he will stay, but not as our Captain

 

[DocSholl]

Sure but if the relationship between Clarko and Jy, or Jy and other players has really deteriorated, we actually may need to sell up. The place may have black mould and Brady is doing his best to pretend it doesn't, not letting people look under the carpets, but he knows this place has to go.

Thanks Ralphy