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Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

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2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft
 
Sounds like that would be a big reach. Cam Guthrie was a very good player by 2016 but we still only rookie listed Zach.

Maybe we look to trade our first into next year if someone's desperate come draft night and take Mellor and Holmes late.

Can we delist Wiltshire post draft? Wait to see how the draft falls before making a decision on him?
 
Would it be that much of a reach? The draft really thins out in quality around our pick. You wouldn’t be drafting him on current output but rather what he might project to get to..

I’d have a few ahead of him at that pick but can see the club backing our development program in to get the best out of him. He’s a late developer so I reckon his scope for improvement is far higher than many in the draft.
Don't get me wrong, I've wanted to take him all year and I'd back the club to get the best out of him.

I just think it would be an enormous reach. Not quite like taking Zach Guthrie in the first round, but pretty close.

The simple solution really is Wiltshire, and then trying to get Hunter at the back end of the draft. If someone takes him within the top 30, good luck to them IMO.
 
Surely Wiltshire is chopped.

Isn’t he OOC and would need a new deal if he stays on.

Would make more sense to keep KMF on a minimum contract and delist and pickup Wiltshire as a rookie if we were keeping both.

Don’t think Wilshire’s new deal would be less than a minimum rookie contract…and he certainly isn’t A: worth more or B: any danger of being taken by another club.

TBH… he just has done stuff all besides putting in a couple of solid VFL at the perfect time early in the year.

With Ollie Henry, Polk and Mellor soon to be on our lists as non key forwards… Wiltshire aint required one bit. Not good enough anyway.


I’ll be shocked and confused if he stays on…reckon he’d even be surprised about it.
 
Don't get me wrong, I've wanted to take him all year and I'd back the club to get the best out of him.

I just think it would be an enormous reach. Not quite like taking Zach Guthrie in the first round, but pretty close.

The simple solution really is Wiltshire, and then trying to get Hunter at the back end of the draft. If someone takes him within the top 30, good luck to them IMO.

I agree. Can’t really see Wiltshire being a long term prospect. I’d prefer to delist him and take 3 players in the ND. A mix of Taylor, Holmes and Mellor would be a good outcome.
 

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So currently we have 2 draft spots, with no delisting news about Wiltshire or Bews, let’s assume they are retained:

Out : Duncan, Guthrie, KMF (R), Stevens(R),

In : Worpel, Rd1, Rd2, Mullin (upgrade)

And one spot free on the rookie list.
 
I agree. Can’t really see Wiltshire being a long term prospect. I’d prefer to delist him and take 3 players in the ND. A mix of Taylor, Holmes and Mellor would be a good outcome.
I'd take that for sure. We really must hate this draft if we're keeping Wiltshire.

It's not a great crop, but there's about 10 names I'd rather take a late punt on rather than keeping him.

Not only is he highly unlikely to make it, he doesn't even play a position of need, particularly with Mellor coming in. Mannagh, Miers, Stengle, Close, Henry, and Polk will all be ahead of him next year, and probably Mellor.

At least Pike might end up the last man standing by proxy and bradbury his way into the starting ruck in a couple of years.
 
So currently we have 2 draft spots, with no delisting news about Wiltshire or Bews, let’s assume they are retained:

Out : Duncan, Guthrie, KMF (R), Stevens(R),

In : Worpel, Rd1, Rd2, Mullin (upgrade)

And one spot free on the rookie list.

Technically it'll be no Cat-A rookie spots available but it'll be a free Cat-B spot

If we commit to both Mellor & Rongdit as NGA draftees, if either slip through the draft we can add them as a Cat-B
 
That feels a very West Coast move. He'll probably play a bunch of games and look ok at times. But ultimately he's not going to make it in any real way. Feels like a very Jamaine Jones type pickup.
I think he's shown a great deal more than Jamaine Jones did for us though that's a low bar.
 
Wiltshire showed glimpses of real ability. You'd think they'd have wanted to see more than that by now since he's just turned 23. But maybe they're going to give him another year.

Surely if he was getting delisted they'd have announced it today.

Honestly keeping Wiltshire probably surprises me less than keeping Bews. And Pike is the ultimate survivor!

Pike surviving is more because marshall didn't come and Conway is injured than anything else.
 
Can we delist Wiltshire post draft? Wait to see how the draft falls before making a decision on him?

You could delist him now to open a senior spot snd then pick him back up in the psd if no one you like slips but I doubt we will.
 
I think he's shown a great deal more than Jamaine Jones did for us though that's a low bar.

I don't see a big difference really. Jones played 7 full games. Ted played 12 games but 9 of those were as sub.

Both had some ability but ultimately had weaknesses that suggested they're not quite good enough.
 
Do we have a summary of what we have done …. ? Something like ..


Delisted 2 Rookies ..Retchco and Ivisic ….

Delisted 1 rookie B Clohesy

Delisted from the main list Guthrie , Duncan

Delisted from the main list GStevens , KMF with a commitment to redraft as rookies ..


So it looks like they have delisted Patrick Retchco and X Ivisic to make room for the redrafting of GS and KMF..

So with the addition of Worpell … we have 2 draft spots available for the draft ?


Id agree that Im a little surprised that Wiltshire has been kept over a couple of others. Id have thought his spot on the list is not secure considering the type of player he is

We have 1 cat b spot free (ted)
4 Senior list spots free but really 3 as we are elevating mullin.
1 cat a rookie spot (kmf stevens pike) unless someone gets poached.
2 and picks and mellor likely unless mellor gets through the ND and we can cat b him.
This is assuming we dont move bews or stanley to rookie list.
 

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We have 1 cat b spot free (ted)
4 Senior list spots free but really 3 as we are elevating mullin.
1 cat a rookie spot (kmf stevens pike) unless someone gets poached.
2 and picks and mellor likely unless mellor gets through the ND and we can cat b him.
This is assuming we dont move bews or stanley to rookie list.

I don't think that's quite right. Unless I've missed something I'm pretty sure it's:

2 senior list spots free (Duncan, Guthrie, KMF and Stevens out with Worpel and Mullin in).

2 cat A rookie list spots free but committed to selecting Stevens and KMF (Ivisic and Retschko out)

2 Cat B rookie spots free (Mullin and Clohesy)
 
Have a feeling we may reach a bit for Hunter Holmes with our first pick. Bank on him following a similar development pathway to Max.
I did hear his mum say their whole family are notoriously late developers, so why not I say.

Although I was shattered we didn’t take Scott Selwood in his draft year instead opting for some untried mature age key position player 😍😍😍. Scott was an excellent AFL player who won a B&F but he was no Harry!!
 
I don't think that's quite right. Unless I've missed something I'm pretty sure it's:

2 senior list spots free (Duncan, Guthrie, KMF and Stevens out with Worpel and Mullin in).

2 cat A rookie list spots free but committed to selecting Stevens and KMF (Ivisic and Retschko out)

2 Cat B rookie spots free (Mullin and Clohesy)

Clohessy was switched to a Cat A rookie a year or so ago, so we have 1 Cat A rookie spot free with Ted going

We've also got 1 Cat B rookie spot free with Mullin being upgraded and Burke taking up the other
 
I don't see a big difference really. Jones played 7 full games. Ted played 12 games but 9 of those were as sub.

Both had some ability but ultimately had weaknesses that suggested they're not quite good enough.
People are entitled to their opinions but i can't understand the comparison.

Clohesy came 2nd in the vfl bnf and made the vfl AA squad in his first year. Rumour on the west coast board was that eagles offered him a 3 year contract.

Jamaine Jones claim to fame was that he laid an above average number of tackles while kicking a below average nunber of goals.

The only way i can understand delisting Ted ahead of Wiltshire is if Ted asked to be so he could go west.
 
Personally I'm surprised with the Clohesy delisting. I thought he was the best player outside the 22. He's as good as Stevens but more versatile and more speed. He's also a tackling machine. He was doing everything right to get a game. I don't get it. Maybe he pissed off the wrong person. I guarantee he will be picked up by another club.
He isn’t suited to the modern game his god given traits and his style.

Poor athletic profile, unable to spread well offensively or defensively, and lacks any versatility to play defense or forward.
 

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With Duncan and now Clohesy gone, the reserves looks thin for AFL-capable midfielders. Club surely looking at mature-age or delisted players?
I’m more interested in filling it with gun kids than list clogging old farts.

I’m sure we can bring in some senior VFL player from another VFL list via our VFL singing pathways to achieve this
 
Personally I'm surprised with the Clohesy delisting. I thought he was the best player outside the 22. He's as good as Stevens but more versatile and more speed. He's also a tackling machine. He was doing everything right to get a game. I don't get it. Maybe he pissed off the wrong person. I guarantee he will be picked up by another club.
I think if rumours of west coast offering him a contract are true then we probably just delisted him rather try a trade with west coast knowing he'd get walked to the PSD anyway.
 
People are entitled to their opinions but i can't understand the comparison.

Clohesy came 2nd in the vfl bnf and made the vfl AA squad in his first year. Rumour on the west coast board was that eagles offered him a 3 year contract.

Jamaine Jones claim to fame was that he laid an above average number of tackles while kicking a below average nunber of goals.

The only way i can understand delisting Ted ahead of Wiltshire is if Ted asked to be so he could go west.
Jones played over 50 AFL games, give him some respect.
 
What would Clohesy offer as a forward in your opinion??
He's very strong overhead and is a good kick for goal. I agree he hasn't got the physical profile for midfield at AFL level but you could see him carving out 30-50 games at a bottom 4 club as a medium forward.
Personally I'm surprised with the Clohesy delisting. I thought he was the best player outside the 22. He's as good as Stevens but more versatile and more speed. He's also a tackling machine. He was doing everything right to get a game. I don't get it. Maybe he pissed off the wrong person. I guarantee he will be picked up by another club.
He's behind Atkins, Knevitt, Clark and probably Stevens as a midfielder and he's not getting a game as a forward ahead of Henry. Needed to take another step this year and become an absolute ball magnet at VFL level and it didn't happen.
 

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