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I've always felt robbed of something very special.Footballing tragedy
He had a wayne carey natural level of talent imoI've always felt robbed of something very special.
By that age, your kicking is pretty much set. I'm struggling to think of one player in the 50+ years that I've played and watched footy, who has improved their kicking to any degree from a reasonably early age.That's crazy if they're writing off probably the best athlete in the draft with some pretty obvious talent in other areas just because his kicking and decision making isn't great as a junior. Isn't that what development is for?
I can't imagine us passing on him with a rookie pick. I wouldn't rule out us taking him earlyish to lock him in because we think his ceiling is incredible.
Kicking is more important than it used to be the way the game is going now.
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Aaron Davey was crazy good at it.Cyril was the king at this.
Whether we had the ball, or we were trying to get it, no oppo player has ever made me as nervous as him just by being in the vicinity.
Id say a bit harsh there. Its also the responsibility of the team to be able to defend turnovers, brisbane defended hard and didnt let us just walk thru when they turned it over, we cant just say “ oh well x and y did a bad kick its his fault” its a team effort to defend and be disciplined.By that age, your kicking is pretty much set. I'm struggling to think of one player in the 50+ years that I've played and watched footy, who has improved their kicking to any degree from a reasonably early age.
They can't all kick like Shannon Neale but they really need to bring some above average skills in other areas like Dangerfield does, and there aint too many Dangers around.
There were lots or reasons we lost the gf but I'd have Max and his kicking at the top of the list.
I would argue its two fold.You only need to look back to Hawthorn's 3peat.
Categorically incorrect.I could’ve gone further into it but then we can trade our 2nd and 3rd pick to a club for points
It makes sense in my head I swear
I also firmly believe we are less than zero percent getting butters
Nippa? That's the waste in Worpel.My dog walker friend from the GFC indicates we have a big interest in SouthOz.
Roosters players... from Modbury.
Also talked of a kid name Felix Nippa??
We talked of Mellor a bit... they like him a lot.
Holmes & Mukunda... he didnt add much.
Dont be surprised if we go hard on others teams NGA's/Academies, as they will be targeted.
Anyways. Fingers crossed we nab a diamond in the ruff or two.
We'll trade into next year.My early prediction is actually trading up the order to around pick 12-15 and get back something also in 30’s/40’s
Something like 19 and FR1 for
Pick 12-15 and 35
I’ll believe it when I see it. But even you have gone from he’s coming, to he’s leaning towards the dogs and money and now back to he’s comingCategorically incorrect.
We might trade for a pick that includes a pick in next years draft but I think we use this years firstWe'll trade into next year.
I am shocked that people have such concrete convictions either way. Anything could happen. Dozens of variables are at play. To the point where it's pointless even giving our opinions on likelihood. It's a maybe until it's not - that's it.I’ll believe it when I see it. But even you have gone from he’s coming, to he’s leaning towards the dogs and money and now back to he’s coming
I think we are absolutely no chance getting him
Obviously the GFC would love to get Butters and I would be confident that the club would be on his short list. The problem is convincing Port Adelaide to accept the trade equivalent of a bag of magic beans for him.I’ll believe it when I see it. But even you have gone from he’s coming, to he’s leaning towards the dogs and money and now back to he’s coming
I think we are absolutely no chance getting him
Having been here as long as I have one thing holds true when it comes to drafting and inside word.
GFC - menanng Wells and Co - never give an inkling about what they are doing.
That said, they will talk to all the due diligence prospects they have on their radar - but when it comes to the pick and theit faves... that never gets out.
GO CAtters
I kind of don't get why people think the trade package is what would hold butters back from going to Geelong.Obviously the GFC would love to get Butters and I would be confident that the club would be on his short list. The problem is convincing Port Adelaide to accept the trade equivalent of a bag of magic beans for him.
Tom Hawkins is the only one I can really think of. His kicking in the back half of his career was remarkably better, even accounting for "yips".By that age, your kicking is pretty much set. I'm struggling to think of one player in the 50+ years that I've played and watched footy, who has improved their kicking to any degree from a reasonably early age.
They can't all kick like Shannon Neale but they really need to bring some above average skills in other areas like Dangerfield does, and there aint too many Dangers around.
There were lots or reasons we lost the gf but I'd have Max and his kicking at the top of the list.
Aaron Davey was crazy good at it.
Who says done deal to bulldogs??I kind of don't get why people think the trade package is what would hold butters back from going to Geelong.
The big hurdles are that Butters needs to want geelong and geelong has to meet his contract demands.
If those conditions are met the trade capital doesn't matter. Port can take the compo or take the package but they aren't taking neither.
Academic though because the noise is he's a done deal to the bulldogs
Bulldogs fans seem fairly adamant but people have been wrong beforeWho says done deal to bulldogs??
I imagine they are offering crazy amounts of 2m+ a year ( which bont is probably not even close to) per year for him to want them
Duncan and CGuthrie departing should help our cause a little? I realise their veteran statusButters would be a great get... Jhye Clark 13 has been good on intel over the journey year over year mostly IMO...
but it seems Butters is more $$ than some others (external view only) and that wont fit with us - even with the TPP going up and few people coming off our list.
Would luv to get him and it could be seen in what we take in the ND regarding pick use too for 2026.
Wont be cheap but im sure we'll get charged trade rates not FA rates again
GO Catters