Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

[cleanhands]

DEPORTATION

 

[kirky]

Why does that bloke need more than 4 firearms? He sits up in the mountains, goes fishing and shoots the occasional deer.

Because its all about him.

If you go onto his property he will probably shoot you and ask questions afterwards.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Sure, banning guns is the solution. Personally, not fond of them, but really, is that the real problem?

 

[cleanhands]

Sure, banning guns is the solution. Personally, not fond of them, but really, is that the real problem?

Get em out

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sure, banning guns is the solution. Personally, not fond of them, but really, is that the real problem?

More restrictions on guns is only part of the solution. Limiting the number of guns, limiting the number of bullets/minutes, limiting to citizens & review of licenses would all help make us safer.

But tougher action on hate speech should alos make a huge impact to giving these crazies ideas. Also, need ASIO to be on their game monitoring these extremists & acting before a problem.

 

[George CantStandYa]

So an Albo aide reached out to visit someone in hospital, told to **** off.

So we know why he didn’t go to the funerals, no one wanted him. Why?

 

[cleanhands]

Why does that bloke need more than 4 firearms? He sits up in the mountains, goes fishing and shoots the occasional deer.

But very dangerous aggressive deer

 

[kirky]

Sure, banning guns is the solution. Personally, not fond of them, but really, is that the real problem?

It is part of the solution.

Jeezus, how many times do we need to repeat it.

Is being dumb one of the requirements to be on the right of the political spectrum. Its ok, I already know the answer to that and it is in the affirmative.

 

[kirky]

So an Albo aide reached out to visit someone in hospital, told to **** off.

So we know why he didn’t go to the funerals, no one wanted him. Why?

Because they are morons making it political. An if the person telling the aide to **** off and used that language it says more about them.

At least Sussan finally found the hospital, probably due to all funerals now completed.

And good to see you back posting on this political blog after sulking for 3 years.

 

[BRL121]

Because they are morons making it political. An if the person telling the aide to **** off and used that language it says more about them.

At least Sussan finally found the hospital, probably due to all funerals now completed.

And good to see you back posting on this political blog after sulking for 3 years.

What a lot of rubbish! If I were in hospital in such a situation, I would also tell them to forget about it (in polite terms), because it would clearly be an attempt by them to make it political. Isn't that obvious?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Because they are morons making it political. An if the person telling the aide to **** off and used that language it says more about them.

At least Sussan finally found the hospital, probably due to all funerals now completed.

And good to see you back posting on this political blog after sulking for 3 years.

So you think a mother who just lost her daughter ....or a husband that just lost his wife to terrorism, are Morons ???

I sincerely think, if it was you that was directly impacted, after perceived or otherwise Govt inaction .....you'd be in no mood for photo ops

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What a lot of rubbish! If I were in hospital in such a situation, I would also tell them to forget about it (in polite terms), because it would clearly be an attempt by them to make it political. Isn't that obvious?

100% .....although the language would be far more colourful

Similar to patients dying in old age care centres during Co-Vid .....and being told they can't attend their funeral

People are entitled to explode at ineptitude

 

[Bearded Clam]

So an Albo aide reached out to visit someone in hospital, told to **** off.

So we know why he didn’t go to the funerals, no one wanted him. Why?

Maybe.. just maybe George.. Some people prefer their privacy to remain in tact. Especially when they are lying in a bed wearing fxxk all other than an often very revealing hospital gown…

I know if I was shot in the lindt cafe 10 or so years ago or at Bondi just the other day.. and heard that either Abbott or Albo (and a no doubt large media pack in tow) wanted to visit me, I would say “thanks.. but no thanks” to both..

And any other politician for that matter..

Family, friends and the nurses and doctors are all I would want coming into my hospital room thank you very much.

Politicians of any ilk not required..

You really are desperately triggered by all this aren’t you George…

Would wittle Georgie want a visit from da big special PM would he?.. Is wittle georgie a bit of an attention seeker is he?

 

[BRL121]

So you think a mother who just lost her daughter ....or a husband that just lost his wife to terrorism, are Morons ???

I sincerely think, if it was you that was directly impacted, after perceived or otherwise Govt inaction .....you'd be in no mood for photo ops

It doesn't even require any thoughts about Govt inaction. As Clam says, it's just a natural reaction to any politician trying to gain positive vibes from their plight.

 

[Mutineer]

Meanwhile in Australia...

Made in China, Made in India – and powered by sustainable coal - Asia Times

The global energy debate is entering a reckoning it can no longer postpone. Not because activists have relented or governments have found consensus, but

asiatimes.com

Made in China, Made in India – and powered by sustainable coal
As sovereignty, security and industrial capability retake center stage, clean coal will be key despite widespread Western reluctance
The global energy debate is entering a reckoning it can no longer postpone. Not because activists have relented or governments have found consensus, but because geopolitics, productivity energy and national security have forced reality back into the room.

For more than a decade, climate policy drifted away from the original intent of the Paris Agreement. What was designed as a framework grounded in flexibility, technological diversity and sovereign choice was gradually reshaped into something far narrower: a moral hierarchy of fuels and an industrial strategy by omission. Today, the world’s most competitive manufacturing economies are not apologizing for using coal. They are engineering more sustainable applications, investing in their modernization and embedding it at the heart of national economic strategies to drive productivity, resilience and resource self-sufficiency.

Combined with oil, gas, renewables and nuclear, these diversified energy systems are designed to maximize reliability while supporting growth. India, coal is central to achieving the government’s vision of Atmanirbhar Bharat, economic self-reliance built on domestic capability. With around 28,000 megawatts of modern coal capacity under construction and a further 92,000 megawatts in planning, coal remains integral to India’s economic and sustainable future. India has committed US$1 billion (₹8,500 crores) to coal gasification, targeting 100 million tonnes by 2030 to produce methanol and ammonia for fertilizers and industry, reducing import dependence while strengthening agriculture and manufacturing.

China takes a similar view. Coal sits firmly within the country’s Five-Year Plans, reflecting its role as a strategic industrial asset. China operates more coal-fired power capacity than the rest of the world’s combined wind and solar fleet, a reality many Western policymakers overlook.

It is also home to the world’s largest coal-to-hydrogen facility in Shaanxi, producing 350,000 tonnes of hydrogen annually, while coal-to-chemicals projects consume around 380 million tonnes of coal each year, roughly 8% of total coal use, supplying fuels and industrial chemicals essential to modern supply chains.

 

[Bearded Clam]

It doesn't even require any thoughts about Govt inaction. As Clam says, it's just a natural reaction to any politician trying to gain positive vibes from their plight.

Although the more I think about it..

Imagine the PM comes in to visit me in hospital.. I am in bed wearing my hospital gown.. and just as the media goes to take a shot of me and the PM smiling for the camera’s.. I could slyly slip the left testical out from under the gown for the photo..

Now **** me that would be worthy of legendary status..

 

[Eagleboy2011]

So an Albo aide reached out to visit someone in hospital, told to **** off.

So we know why he didn’t go to the funerals, no one wanted him. Why?

also... and most importantly

Palestinian votes ____ Jewish votes

>>>>

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Meanwhile in Australia...

Made in China, Made in India – and powered by sustainable coal - Asia Times

The global energy debate is entering a reckoning it can no longer postpone. Not because activists have relented or governments have found consensus, but

asiatimes.com

Made in China, Made in India – and powered by sustainable coal
As sovereignty, security and industrial capability retake center stage, clean coal will be key despite widespread Western reluctance
The global energy debate is entering a reckoning it can no longer postpone. Not because activists have relented or governments have found consensus, but because geopolitics, productivity energy and national security have forced reality back into the room.

For more than a decade, climate policy drifted away from the original intent of the Paris Agreement. What was designed as a framework grounded in flexibility, technological diversity and sovereign choice was gradually reshaped into something far narrower: a moral hierarchy of fuels and an industrial strategy by omission. Today, the world’s most competitive manufacturing economies are not apologizing for using coal. They are engineering more sustainable applications, investing in their modernization and embedding it at the heart of national economic strategies to drive productivity, resilience and resource self-sufficiency.

Combined with oil, gas, renewables and nuclear, these diversified energy systems are designed to maximize reliability while supporting growth. India, coal is central to achieving the government’s vision of Atmanirbhar Bharat, economic self-reliance built on domestic capability. With around 28,000 megawatts of modern coal capacity under construction and a further 92,000 megawatts in planning, coal remains integral to India’s economic and sustainable future. India has committed US$1 billion (₹8,500 crores) to coal gasification, targeting 100 million tonnes by 2030 to produce methanol and ammonia for fertilizers and industry, reducing import dependence while strengthening agriculture and manufacturing.

China takes a similar view. Coal sits firmly within the country’s Five-Year Plans, reflecting its role as a strategic industrial asset. China operates more coal-fired power capacity than the rest of the world’s combined wind and solar fleet, a reality many Western policymakers overlook.

It is also home to the world’s largest coal-to-hydrogen facility in Shaanxi, producing 350,000 tonnes of hydrogen annually, while coal-to-chemicals projects consume around 380 million tonnes of coal each year, roughly 8% of total coal use, supplying fuels and industrial chemicals essential to modern supply chains.

Lol, what is sustainable about coal? You are funny.

The biggest growth in both China's & India's energy needs are coming from renewables & will continue to... no matter how much it annoys you.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It is part of the solution.

Jeezus, how many times do we need to repeat it.

Is being dumb one of the requirements to be on the right of the political spectrum. Its ok, I already know the answer to that and it is in the affirmative.

What's the other part?

 

[George CantStandYa]

Maybe.. just maybe George.. Some people prefer their privacy to remain in tact. Especially when they are lying in a bed wearing fxxk all other than an often very revealing hospital gown…

I know if I was shot in the lindt cafe 10 or so years ago or at Bondi just the other day.. and heard that either Abbott or Albo (and a no doubt large media pack in tow) wanted to visit me, I would say “thanks.. but no thanks” to both..

And any other politician for that matter..

Family, friends and the nurses and doctors are all I would want coming into my hospital room thank you very much.

Politicians of any ilk not required..

You really are desperately triggered by all this aren’t you George…

Would wittle Georgie want a visit from da big special PM would he?.. Is wittle georgie a bit of an attention seeker is he?

Lol, triggered? Is that your new word?

I find a weak spineless PM disturbing, you like it.

Maybe you should actually look at their comments, they blamed him, why is it that a government would be smashed for the actions of a terrorist? Has it happened before?

Just stick with being a Labor fanboi

 

[George CantStandYa]

Because they are morons making it political. An if the person telling the aide to **** off and used that language it says more about them.

At least Sussan finally found the hospital, probably due to all funerals now completed.

And good to see you back posting on this political blog after sulking for 3 years.

You seriously need to have an inward look and ask how you turned into a cold hearted leftie

 

[MrKK]

An interesting read by Kos Samaras -

Why the Median Voter theory and culture wars are failing in modern Australia.

The classic model of electoral competition says parties win by converging on the “median voter” the swing voter in the middle who can genuinely choose between a centre-left and centre-right offer.

That model assumed voters actually swung.

But it was built for a different Australia: decades ago, more homogeneous, less educated, and far less psychologically sorted.

Today’s Australia looks nothing like that.

• 31.5% of Australians were born overseas (as of June 2024). 
• Australia is overwhelmingly urban (World Bank puts it at 86.8% urban in 2024). 

• Education has structurally shifted the electorate: in 2025, approximately 50% of Australians aged under 50, held a bachelor degree or higher. 

• And crucially, we have compulsory voting, plus a system that forces voters to rank preferences rather than just pick a single tribe and walk away. 

Those structural forces, migration, urbanisation, educational expansion, compulsory participation, have helped produce an electorate where identity is increasingly fixed rather than fluid.

People don’t “shop around” the middle like the past. Increasingly, they vote as a reflection of who they are (and who they are not), reinforced by peer networks, online ecosystems, and cultural reference points. The centre still exists but it’s often not persuadable in the old way.

So the median voter theorem didn’t just weaken. In practice, it broke.

The new campaign game: bloc politics + preference efficiency

If bloc politics are real, traditional campaign strategy becomes obsolete.

Because elections stop being about “converting” large pools of soft voters, and start being about:

• holding your bloc together,
• maximising preference flows, and
• punishing fragmentation on the other side.

You can see the shape of this in the 2025 federal result: Labor secured a landslide seat haul (94 seats in a 150-seat House) even as major-party support continues to dilute. 

In 2022, a similar dynamic was at play, Labor winning a majority of seats, whilst recording a record low primary. But it held it’s progressive block together a lot better. Similar trends were seen in both the Victorian and NSW state elections that followed. We even witnessed this in WA, where the correction arrived and ended up just spraying into minor parties.

Strategic implications

For the Coalition

Chasing “soft Labor voters” is, increasingly, chasing ghosts.

The path to victory narrows to two hard options:

1. Consolidate the conservative bloc with genuine preference discipline, difficult when right-of-Coalition alternatives exist precisely because parts of the base feel alienated.

2. Split the progressive bloc by making divisive issues highly salient, difficult when Labor can often neutralise or absorb popular progressive positions without losing its core.

3. Try to target older Australians voting Labor, who still behave like the median voter. It’s however a short term fix given the obvious attrition that will occur as the years roll on.

This isn’t primarily a tactical problem. It’s a structural one.

For Labor

The strategy is simpler, but not easy:

1. Hold the bloc together
2. Keep preference flows healthy from the flanks
3. Don’t start culture wars that cost you your progressive wing
4. Don’t waste time pandering to conservatives who were never available anyway

The lesson of 2025 is that you don’t need to “win the middle” the way the old textbooks insisted, you need to run your preference machine better than your opponent runs theirs. You also need to run a campaign that triggers your opponent’s flanks to bleed into minor parties. Culture wars are a massively contribute to this and up until now, Labor is doing a better job not buying into it.

Conclusion: the new electoral physics

Australian elections are no longer primarily about persuading undecided voters in the centre.

They’re about bloc consolidation and preference efficiency.

And this isn’t cyclical, it’s structural. It will persist, and likely intensify, as Gen Z grows as a share of the electorate and Millennials move into their peak participation years. These two cohorts have ushered in the bloc voting phenomenon and it only really gathered significant steam when they, as a combined group reached critical mass on the electoral roll.

In a bloc-voting world with preferential voting, a fragmented right faces a consolidated left at a permanent disadvantage.

The maths doesn’t require Labor to win every argument.

It just requires Labor to hold its coalition together while the other side can’t. It has a demographic advantage in doing that because its coalition is largely younger, whilst the big C Coalition is much older.

Strongly disagree that previous generations were less educated. Speak to an average 50+ year-old and they are better at the basics of reading, writing and maths than a Millenial with more years in formal education.

The biggest change in education is how politicised the curriculum has become, so most people reach adulthood firmly in that progressive bloc that has been taught everything politically right is nefarious. It doesn't matter if they prefer Greens or Labor as their preferences will always end up with one of them.

Chasing “soft Labor voters” is, increasingly, chasing ghosts.

Indeed, so the next time you say the Liberals need to "move towards the centre" you are doing so knowing that it will make them less likely to win an election. I'm sure that was your intention all along.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Strongly disagree that previous generations were less educated. Speak to an average 50+ year-old and they are better at the basics of reading, writing and maths than a Millenial with more years in formal education.

The biggest change in education is how politicised the curriculum has become, so most people reach adulthood firmly in that progressive bloc that has been taught everything politically right is nefarious. It doesn't matter if they prefer Greens or Labor as their preferences will always end up with one of them.



Indeed, so the next time you say the Liberals need to "move towards the centre" you are doing so knowing that it will make them less likely to win an election. I'm sure that was your intention all along.

It's interesting that our education system now has better resourcing with teacher to student ratios & access to better technology to assist in teaching... but why are Naplan results not really improving much & why are we lagging behind other countries like Finland?

I don’t have the answers, but should we be looking to do things differently?

 

[Mutineer]

PM booed as Jewish leaders call for royal commission into Bondi attack

At 6:47pm, one week to the minute after the start of the Bondi Beach terror attack, silence fell across the dusk gathering on the final night of the Jewish festival of light.

www.abc.net.au

Jewish community gathers for Bondi Beach shooting vigil and commemoration

In short:
Sydney's grieving Jewish community has gathered at Bondi Beach and held a minute's silence for those killed.

The prime minister was booed and Jewish community leaders backed calls for a royal commission into the massacre.

Some of the loudest rounds of applause were for NSW Premier Chris Minns, Opposition Leader Kellie Sloane and Ahmed Al Ahmed, who disarmed one of the gunmen and remains in hospital.

The sombre tone was soon broken when Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was booed and heckled as he was introduced to the crowd, in contrast to a standing ovation for NSW Premier Chris Minns and Opposition Leader and local MP Kellie Sloane, who was hailed a "hero" for her actions last Sunday.

"Last week Kellie made the choice, in the midst of the attack, to go down to Bondi Beach, to go to where the incident was taking place, and she provided assistance to those who were injured and gave shelter to those who needed it," NSW Jewish Board of Deputies president David Ossip said.

"That is bravery. That is courage."

 

[Mutineer]

Why the contrast between Chris Minns and the PM has been stark

As Sydneysiders paid their respects to the Bondi terror victims, one moment captured the contrast between two Labor leaders and their perceived responses to antisemitism.

www.abc.net.au

After the Bondi attack, the contrast between Chris Minns and Anthony Albanese has been stark


On Wednesday evening, as Sydneysiders paid their respects to the Bondi terror victims, one moment captured the contrast between two Labor leaders and their perceived responses to antisemitism.

NSW Premier Chris Minns sat next to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese on the steps of St Mary's Cathedral, both clapping at various points during an impassioned speech by the leader of Australia's oldest synagogue.

But there was one part of the address by Rabbi Benjamin Elton, the head of the Great Synagogue, the PM did not applaud.

"Over the past two years, antisemitism in Australia has run riot," Elton told the interfaith service.

"It has not been checked. It has not been stopped. Whatever has been done has been insufficient." The crowd burst into applause, the premier joining in. Albanese's hands, however, remained clasped on his lap.

Those few seconds of body language did not go unnoticed by a community in agony, symbolising what has been regarded as inaction on antisemitism.