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Dermott Brereton: how do opposition supporters remember him?

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He was my chlldhood hero, so am biased, but curious to know how people rate Dermott Brereton the footballer and where he sits in the echelon of modern footballers? I assume most opposition supporters at the time despised him, as he was the ultimate villain in the [PLAYERCARD]Toby Greene[/PLAYERCARD] mould – but wondering how people remember him as a player. Any good anecdotes or recollections?

Five premierships speak for themselves, but it’s also how Derm stood up on the biggest stage that stands out. Got pantsed in the 1987 Grand Final but his 8 goals in a losing side in 85 GF is often forgotten. 5 goals on debut in a final, too. But getting off the canvas in 1989 GF to kick that goal was probably his most famous moment, but 1991 GF he overcome some adversities to play a big role in that flag too. 11 goals with broken ribs was another standout for me.

Obviously a tough player – many would call him a dirty mongrel – but he gave as much as he got, and didn't seem to be one to ever complain. Derm was football’s first real rock star: bleached hair, earring, Harley rider, Ferrari driver, fluro boots at three-quarter time. Big goals, big marks, big moments. But running through the Essendon huddle sums him up, really. Right after kissing Billy Duckworth, too.

Got shafted by the club he loved and forced to move to Sydney, he still did everything he could to get back to Hawthorn– but something poetic about him ending up at Collingwood – the team he loved as a kid and playing in front of 90,000 at Anzac Day clashes.

Most would say Wayne Carey is the greatest centre half-forward the game has seen – and it’s hard to argue with that – but when it comes to a package of big-game players, presence and characters of the game, I'd argue Dermott Brereton has him covered.
 
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Most would say Wayne Carey is the greatest centre half-forward the game has seen – and it’s hard to argue with that – but when it comes to a package of big-game players, presence and characters of the game, I'd argue Dermott Brereton has him covered.

So when it comes to carrying on like a galah he has Carey covered? Fair effort that. Tough as nails, that's for sure.

If Carey hadn't come along he'd be arguably the greatest CHF in the game. But he's so far behind Carey most people have forgotten what position he played.
 
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So when it comes to carrying on like a galah he has Carey covered? Fair effort that. Tough as nails, that's for sure.

If Carey hadn't come along he'd be arguably the greatest CHF in the game. But so far behind Carey most people have forgotten what position he played.
how do you rate Carey's GF performances?
 
how do you rate Carey's GF performances?
They'd have been alot better if he kicked straight. 1.3 in '96, 1.4 in '98.

He cost us the 1998 GF despite dominating the first half, turned the 1996 one our way and was solid in 1999.
 
Well it's that difference that one could argue tips the scales in Brereton's favour
If you wanted to be wrong.

Carey played half his career unable to lift his arms above his shoulders, most of it with at least 2 players hanging off him and was still a much better player.

No team played Hawthorn with their entire strategy being "Stop Brereton."
 
If you wanted to be wrong.

Carey played half his career unable to lift his arms above his shoulders, most of it with at least 2 players hanging off him and was still a much better player.

No team played Hawthorn with their entire strategy being "Stop Brereton."
It's interesting you say that as both 1987 and 1989 Grand Finals that's exactly what the opposition's strategy was.
 
I was at his first game.
He was a terrific key forward in a really strong side.
Obviously was not as good as a Carey or Lockett, but was a very good player and quite a character.
 
It's interesting you say that as both 1987 and 1989 Grand Finals that's exactly what the opposition's strategy was.
In 1987 one skinny wing/HBFer was enough to stop Brereton because there was no Dunstall.

Have to say tho, 1989 GF is probably my favortie Brereton game. Gutsy as.
 
In 1987 one skinny wing/HBFer was enough to stop Brereton because there was no Dunstall.

Have to say tho, 1989 GF is probably my favortie Brereton game. Gutsy as.
i think your initial summation was correct that people kinda forgot about Brereton as one the era's great CHF the moment Carey stepped up with his stunning performances. 7 AAs – or whatever he got – speaks for itself.
 

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i think your initial summation was correct that people kinda forgot about Brereton as one the era's great CHF the moment Carey stepped up with his stunning performances. 7 AAs – or whatever he got – speaks for itself.
LOL, I'm one of those people.

Haven't really forgotten tho. Carey was so much better imo but he never went on the midday show and sang Lady is a Tramp.
 
Hated him when he knocked out Danny Frawley but along with Ablett Snr was one of the few players from other teams I would go to games St. Kilda wasn’t playing in just to watch play.
Ended up next to him when taking a slash in the toilets once when in a corporate box and he’s a really nice bloke so opinions from what you think you know can be wrong!
 
Great player but he should have given it up after the 1991 flag. His body was past it.

People say he gave as good as he got, but he was a weak sniper. Often you’d look down the ground away from the play and see Dermie standing there and his opponent on the ground, obviously been struck.

Stomped on Tallis head and broke Frees jaw behind the play both at times when there was little to nothing on the line. Knocked Frawley out in a home and away game as well.

Do one of those things in today’s game and he wouldn’t be playing. Especially stomping on a players head. What a disgrace.

The AFL continue to paint the narrative of Breretons bravery getting up after being hip and shouldered in the 89 GF and were quick to erase some of the more ugly aspects of his career.
 
Great player but he should have given it up after the 1991 flag. His body was past it.

People say he gave as good as he got, but he was a weak sniper. Often you’d look down the ground away from the play and see Dermie standing there and his opponent on the ground, obviously been struck.

Stomped on Tallis head and broke Frees jaw behind the play both at times when there was little to nothing on the line. Knocked Frawley out in a home and away game as well.

Do one of those things in today’s game and he wouldn’t be playing. Especially stomping on a players head. What a disgrace.

The AFL continue to paint the narrative of Breretons bravery getting up after being hip and shouldered in the 89 GF and were quick to erase some of the more ugly aspects of his career.

The game was played by thugs back then, across every level of every comp.

Have you ever heard what he said about the Tony Free incident?
 

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Someone who actually understood that football was more then just playing football. He was legit the first player who ever bothered to engage the youth football teams and actually get the AFL interested in growing the game at that level

Without Dermie grassroots football would not be what it is today
 
It wasn't anything special but he obviously felt bad about it. While other people on that panel were joking about it he didn't join in but did say Free was incredibly brave, charged at him flat out to stick up for a teammate and was in the perfect position to get belted. That was how the game went back then and the impression I got from Dermie was he was not proud he messed Free up so badly but respected that a player three or four inches shorter and 15-20 kgs lighter didn't take a backward step against him given his rep and how tough he was.
 
a absolute character who had the talent to back himself up.
The hair and the way he carried himself was always filled with confidence.
Was a rough and tough guy aswell, put his body through the ringer for his career.
 

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