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Thanks all.

 

[pjcrows]

Obama dropped more bombs than any other president. Were you ok with that or not?

Global politics isn't sports teams for a lot of people. You're exposing how dense your point of view is

 

[sherb]

Obama dropped more bombs than any other president. Were you ok with that or not?

Got a source for that claim?

 

[kirky]

Yes it amazes me. Not worth continuing to post because this is clearly a closed shop where alternative ideas or views are squashed. Though it amazes me because the first thing I said was I don't think what Trump is doing here is a great idea.

But you make a good point - millions of Venezuelan, Mexican, Cuban, Iranian etc refugees. All countries Trump is trying to change leadership in. All countries Russia/China support.

This sub seems to be occupied by pro-China anti-US/Trump people. Does that mean they side with dictators who lead to millions of refugees exiting their country? I mean if the US is so bad why aren't their millions of refugees leaving? Oh and if Trump is a dictator why did he win a democratic election very clearly?

Of course one can't ask those questions, because the "group think" is well set. I look forward to the abuse and juvenile comments. Reminds me of my university politics days. Which is funny we did a catch up of the old Uni Council 20 years on in 2024. Those that represented views on this sub were stuck in government or university jobs complaining about how bad the system was, about 80% were divorced or never married, most were bitter AF. Then there was myself and the two other "Liberal" council members, all happily married, with multiple assets and a secure future. Anyway this has been fun, but off with the Mrs to look at a new Rolex and discuss our next investment property (12 and counting..)

Owning Monopoly houses doesn’t count.

 

[Chief]

Just answer the question.

If you're against foreign military intervention by a USA president, you're presumably against all of it, right?

I mean, I don't disagree with that sentiment myself.

False equivalence. False dilemma. False presumption. Whataboutism.

Just address these logical fallacies in your posts.

 

[Satan]

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com)

FLASHBACK—Trump in 2023: When I left, Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken it over, we would have gotten all that oil.

bsky.app

The oil is crap thou

 

[DaTBird187]

His predecessor(Hugo Chavez) changed the entire election system, rewrote the constitution, eliminated term limits, eliminated political opponents and neutralized the Attorney General and other monitoring bodies so any legal challenges to his authority could be dismissed and all electoral disputes would be ruled in his favour.

If you think Maduro was democratically elected then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Says the person who believes the U.S is some kind of expert on South American regime change.

I've got a bridge to steal from you.

 

[bzparkes]

Global politics isn't sports teams for a lot of people. You're exposing how dense your point of view is

You're right, it's not.

Yet for some reason the people in here slamming Trump for a 3 hour raid on Venezuela never called out Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns during his presidencies, as far as I'm aware.

I actually agree that you shouldn't take sides but it takes 5 minutes of poking around in this thread to see the pure hypocrisy of those who loudly oppose Trump in here.

 

[bzparkes]

Says the person who believes the U.S is some kind of expert on South American regime change.

I've got a bridge to steal from you.

I mean, are they not an expert on SA regime change, considering the amount of times they've done it?

None of it good btw.

 

[pjcrows]

Just answer the question.

If you're against foreign military intervention by a USA president, you're presumably against all of it, right?

I mean, I don't disagree with that sentiment myself.

You're against military intervention by a US President, but you're all good with this current move by Trump in Venezuela? Come on mate. You don't have to lie. Hold the line!

 

[DaTBird187]

I mean, are they not an expert on SA regime change, considering the amount of times they've done it?

None of it good btw.

But this time will be different right?

 

[jdisc]

You're right, it's not.

Yet for some reason the people in here slamming Trump for a 3 hour raid on Venezuela never called out Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns during his presidencies, as far as I'm aware.

I actually agree that you shouldn't take sides but it takes 5 minutes of poking around in this thread to see the pure hypocrisy of those who loudly oppose Trump in here.

you can be against both

hope that helps

 

[bzparkes]

You're against military intervention by a US President, but you're all good with this current move by Trump in Venezuela? Come on mate. You don't have to lie. Hold the line!

Did I say it was good?

I remember pointing out how the Venezuelans are celebrating it.

 

[Chief]

as far as I'm aware

Search function, n00b.

 

[bzparkes]

you can be against both

hope that helps

You sure can.

None of the anti-Trump people in here ever show me where they were critical of Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns 'in America's best interests' though.

I'm curious as to what they thought about the USA's involvement in removing Gaddafi?

 

[pjcrows]

You're right, it's not.

Yet for some reason the people in here slamming Trump for a 3 hour raid on Venezuela never called out Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns during his presidencies, as far as I'm aware.

I actually agree that you shouldn't take sides but it takes 5 minutes of poking around in this thread to see the pure hypocrisy of those who loudly oppose Trump in here.

1. I can only speak for myself, but you've made sweeping assumptions about the people's opinions that you're engaging with.

2. Your automatic "But Obama!" and "But Biden!" is textbook instinctive partisan response so no, you don't think we "shouldn't take sides".

3. "A three hour raid". He bombed a foreign country, and extradited it's president and flew him back to the US on charges of drug trafficking and guns, using the US Constitution to do so. Don't try to minimise it now! It's a huge deal, and unprecedented. If you support that, just say it.

 

[pjcrows]

Did I say it was good?

I remember pointing out how the Venezuelans are celebrating it.

Ah so now you've devolved it into a debate about semantics.

Geez this is textbook

 

[troybe]

When Diet Coke just won’t quench that thirst. One needs a full bodied viscous liquid to satiate the palate.

 

[jdisc]

You sure can.

None of the anti-Trump people in here ever show me where they were critical of Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns 'in America's best interests' though.

I'm curious as to what they thought about the USA's involvement in removing Gaddafi?

It's not really up to people to try and demonstrate their opinions on a presidency that happened a decade ago to you to try and assure you of their consistency on the issue

A lot of people that were pro-Obama initially were for his progressive message he ran on, not the president he became.

It's interesting that you bring up Libya, because I distinctly remember the citizens celebrating Gaddafi's removal, yet you somehow view it as different when it's Venezuelans celebrating.

 

[ferball]

Dealing coke or Crack?

By the gram or by the key?

Believe it or not Biden actually overturned his racist law that saw crack penalised more heavily than normal coke when he was president.

 

[bzparkes]

Ah so now you've devolved it into a debate about semantics.

Geez this is textbook

Did I say I supported it or not?

 

[ferball]

You honestly couldn't think of any other reason eh?

Let me ask you this.

When a low-level drug dealer gets let off a major charge, why do you think that happens?

They get shot by their mates for ratting them out usually.

 

[pjcrows]

You sure can.

None of the anti-Trump people in here ever show me where they were critical of Obama's relentless bombing and assassination campaigns 'in America's best interests' though.

I'm curious as to what they thought about the USA's involvement in removing Gaddafi?

You're the one making bold statements, mate! The burden of proof lies with you.

 

[bzparkes]

It's not really up to people to try and demonstrate their opinions on a presidency that happened a decade ago to you to try and assure you of their consistency on the issue

A lot of people that were pro-Obama initially were for his progressive message he ran on, not the president he became.

It's interesting that you bring up Libya, because I distinctly remember the citizens celebrating Gaddafi's removal, yet you somehow view it as different when it's Venezuelans celebrating.

No, I view Libya and Venezuela the same way.

I just hope it turns out better for Venezuela than it did for Libya.

 

[jdisc]

"OH you're anti-intervention in Venezuela? Didn't hear you complaining when the US government armed Kurdish fighters in the mid 70's!"

 

[pjcrows]

It's not really up to people to try and demonstrate their opinions on a presidency that happened a decade ago to you to try and assure you of their consistency on the issue

A lot of people that were pro-Obama initially were for his progressive message he ran on, not the president he became.

It's interesting that you bring up Libya, because I distinctly remember the citizens celebrating Gaddafi's removal, yet you somehow view it as different when it's Venezuelans celebrating.

This time it'll be different though