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Thanks all.

 

[bzparkes]

Of what significance is this influence? What has Venezuela done, as a result of Irans influence, that it wouldn't have done anyway? This is such a disingenuous nothing of a position. They are united in not liking the US, but like the Axis in WW@, they do not extend that to actual cooperation. Anything Venezuela has done that the US dislikes is because Venezuela opposes the US, not because its taking direction from Iran.

Heavy Russian and Chinese involvement also. Maduro just met with a Chinese contingency hours before the USA snatched him.

And they removed Maduro, they didnt remove the whole government, so nothing actually changes unless they occupy the whole place.

You can't remove an entire government over night as what's left of a country will simply collapse. Will be interesting to see how they handle it after every bugled regime change in recent history though.

ps When are the rest of the now 5 million Epstein files coming out? Are they going to be able to find any of Joe, or Barack do you think?

Hopefully soon. I want the entire thing released unredacted and everyone involved in criminal activity punished to the full extent of the law. Blow everything up.

As I said numerous times earlier, I'm sure Trump is in those in a bad way, which is likely why it'll never happen. Not just him but many of the world's 'elites' also.

Someone has to properly leak them for them to get fully released IMO and that person needs to be a legitimate source.

 

[pjcrows]

An outcome here is that Trump's actions in Venezuela clear the political and moral path (in theory) for Xi to take Taiwan and Putin to take Ukraine without global war.

They're completely breaking decades-long international norms and rules-based order, to put off World War 3 a bit longer.

 

[Cooldude]

Bot farms in India and Bangladesh working overtime to defend this coup, gotta get that 3 dollars an hour somehow

 

[jatz14]

De Santos caught stealing up to $35 million form Florida hospitals. $35 million, what an amateur, no wonder he got thrashed by Trump. If you want graft and criminality, then go for quality.

 

[bzparkes]

Zelenskyy is corrupt and won't have an election, that is completely fair to say and does not mean you support Putin, obviously.

Zelensky can't have an election because the Ukrainian constitution prevents elections when the country is under martial law. He's already said he's willing to step down after the war and doesn't want to remain in power once peace has been achieved.

The US does not want to fully enter the Russian-Ukraine war for OBVIOUS reasons, they are giving Ukraine just enough to defend themselves. Also, the US doesn't have the money to give Ukraine unlimited amounts. This does not mean he supports Putin.

Europe are the ones who should be doing more in that regard IMO, it's on their doorstep after all.

 

[bzparkes]

De Santos caught stealing up to $35 million form Florida hospitals. $35 million, what an amateur, no wonder he got thrashed by Trump. If you want graft and criminality, then go for quality.

Rookie numbers compared to Tim Walz. Whilst all fraud should be punished, especially by state governors, at least DeSantis can't run for re-election.

 

[Financialpanther]

De Santos caught stealing up to $35 million form Florida hospitals. $35 million, what an amateur, no wonder he got thrashed by Trump. If you want graft and criminality, then go for quality.

Trump defrauded his own charity though remember - the graft takes time.

 

[GreyCrow]

Rookie numbers compared to Tim Walz. Whilst all fraud should be punished, especially by state governors, at least DeSantis can't run for re-election.

Can you post your source of Tim Walzs fraudulent activities

 

[Financialpanther]

Rookie numbers compared to Tim Walz. Whilst all fraud should be punished, especially by state governors, at least DeSantis can't run for re-election.

Did Walz steal money?

 

[Nikita Blue]

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com)

Donald Trump is now reposting videos on Truth Social suggesting that Minnesota Governor Tim Walz had Melissa Hortman assassinated. This is objectively evil, and calling it out should not be political.

bsky.app

Disgusting creature.

 

[pjcrows]

Can you post your source of Tim Walzs fraudulent activities

Did Walz steal money?

ChatGPT incoming:

"give me tim walz fraud"

 

[GreyCrow]

ChatGPT incoming:

"give me tim walz fraud"

Too scared to say Fox

 

[Financialpanther]

ChatGPT incoming:

"give me tim walz fraud"

Save you the time for more AI slop in word form - currently investigating social services fraud in Minnesota but not explicitly done by him or alleged to have.

 

[bzparkes]

Can you post your source of Tim Walzs fraudulent activities

Maybe he hasn't personally benefitted from it financially but he sure has with the votes he's receiving.

But true, like DeSantis, he hasn't been charged with anything.

 

[TheSunGod]

Bot farms in India and Bangladesh working overtime to defend this coup, gotta get that 3 dollars an hour somehow

Reading some of the comments on other news sites and I never realised how many different ways “President Trump is the greatest leader the world has ever known” could be written.

 

[GreyCrow]

Maybe he hasn't personally benefitted from it financially but he sure has with the votes he's receiving.

But true, like DeSantis, he hasn't been charged with anything.

So you acknowledge Tim Walz hasnt benefited from any fraud

Can you delete your post

 

[bzparkes]

So you acknowledge Tim Walz hasnt benefited from any fraud

Can you delete your post

Can the one saying DeSantis is a fraudster also be deleted, considering he's not convicted of anything?

 

[Satan]

De Santos caught stealing up to $35 million form Florida hospitals. $35 million, what an amateur, no wonder he got thrashed by Trump. If you want graft and criminality, then go for quality.

WA too

 

[Satan]

In the Panama intervention, for instance, an opinion by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel claimed Mr. Bush had inherent constitutional power to deploy the F.B.I. abroad to arrest a fugitive from U.S. criminal charges, even if such an operation violated international law. The opinion was signed by the future attorney general, William P. Barr.

Mr. Barr’s reasoning — when it later came to light — has attracted significant criticism by legal scholars. Brian Finucane, a former senior State Department lawyer, in a 2020 law review article, argued that Mr. Barr’s memo had mistakenly conflated two issues.

 

[Financialpanther]

Maybe he hasn't personally benefitted from it financially but he sure has with the votes he's receiving.

But true, like DeSantis, he hasn't been charged with anything.

But DeSantis has been actively implicated though...

 

[bzparkes]

But DeSantis has been actively implicated though...

Not convicted and now the feds are investigating Walz' administration.

I don't think it's fair to label one party of something they're not convicted of(yet) whilst demanding a post about another, who people are implicating at least having knowledge of said fraud, is deleted.

 

[Financialpanther]

Not convicted and now the feds are investigating Walz' administration.

I don't think it's fair to label one party of something they're not convicted of(yet) whilst demanding a post about another, who people are implicating at least having knowledge of said fraud, is deleted.

Thats not the issue, one is investigating incompetence and the other direct fraud. I'm not labelling anything other than the comparison is false on a number of fronts regardless of which team you support.

 

[GreyCrow]

Can the one saying DeSantis is a fraudster also be deleted, considering he's not convicted of anything?

This is a source

DeSantis admin diverted child welfare and medical funds for consultants, ads

During the fight to defeat Amendments 3 and 4 last year, Gov. DeSantis’ administration spent at least $36.2 million in taxpayer funds.

www.tampabay.com

TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration diverted more than $35 million in taxpayer funds — an amount far greater than previously known — as part of a brazen agenda last year to defeat two ballot amendments he staunchly opposed, a Tampa Bay Times/Miami Herald investigation has found.

Much of the state money was intended to assist needy Floridians, including children. Instead, it paid for political consultants, lawyers and thousands of advertisements that helped DeSantis and his supporters win at the ballot box.

 

[GreyCrow]

Can the one saying DeSantis is a fraudster also be deleted, considering he's not convicted of anything?

You had the opportunity to respond asking for a source but you just whatabouted Walz and directly said he had defrauded more than $35m

In your desire to whatabout you tie yourself up in knots

Now delete the post as I know Ghost Patrol and Gethelred really hate claims without sources

 

[76woodenspooners]

Come on now. Don’t play games.

He’s called Zelenskyy a dictator (helpful word in this context, if Russia was to try and remove him) and blamed him for the war.

The US has immense military strength, and is only using a tiny fraction to support Ukraine, whilst his apparatchiks continue to speak negatively about Ukraine and/or positively about Russia.

Alternatively, consider how Trump speaks about literally anyone that annoys him or goes against him. The Zelenskyy tweet/“truth” post demonstrates that. Where is that fire and disdain for Putin?
We can conclude from that that Trump most certainly tolerates, and most likely supports, Putin.

Do you think Trump genuinely wants to end the war in Ukraine?

I think he does.

He campaigned on ending it. He’s been sending his envoy back and forth between the two countries. He’s met with Putin in Alaska. He’s met Zelenskyy numerous times in the White House.

So assuming Trump wants to end it, how would he have any chance of mediating a peaceful outcome unless he treats Putin with respect?

Trump doesn’t have to treat Zelenskyy with respect because Zelenskyy doesn’t have any choice of leaving the negotiating table.

By contrast Putin can tell Trump to GAGF if he wants to.