Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[10571z]

Such strong words, that’ll show them!

 

[Markfs]

Such strong words, that’ll show them!

I'm sure trump will allow him to join in the bombing for peace...he might make it to end of the financial year

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Doggie-boy, I wrote that Trump didnt mind women who didnt take him on....he likes that quality in men too, but he seems to want to scold the women more if they ask questions that he doesnt like.

Especially ABC reporters

 

[Romeoh1]

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Such strong words, that’ll show them!

What would you like him to say?

 

[Markfs]

Especially ABC reporters

one for you doggie...you are a master!

 

[Home Alone]

Far left neo-Nazi extremism?

The loons are ****ing cooked.

it all makes sense now.

A centrist (apologies Crankyhawk - you are genuine in your beliefs) is somewhere between a neo nazi and current position of where the Abbotts, Credlins, Bolts and general SkyNews After Dark viewer perceive where the center is.

Anything left of a neo nazi and you are a full Pol Pot sympathiser (ignoring the fact that both have minimal regard for universities and education - no that education!!!!)

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I can't tell if The Age is posting juvenile Twitter level ragebait, by running with Hockey's insistence Albo should appoint Dutton to the position of US Ambassador or if it's just moronic propaganda.

https://archive.is/FnN3O

In what world should Albanese appoint a man who would work against the government and likely Australian interest in tandem with MAGA figures, for his own gain or that of the bizarre fascist project the US and various global reactionary governments and orgs seem to be persuing?

This cannot be a serious suggestion and no credible news organisation would or should be dedicating column inches to it. Most generous take is it's pathetic fishing for clicks, so enjoy the archive link.

Joe Hockey's greatest achievement as ambassador to the US appears to have been being photographed playing golf with the tangerine toddler.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

i've never liked Rudd, even when he became famous on the morning show. Has the lobby appointed someone new who better represents their interests? Josh Frydenberg would be perfect but he is slotted for Liberal leader....

Friedturd during covid showed so much leadership that he along with his shit campaigner government ran by the marketing shit campaigner abandoned their constitutionally required duties of quarantine.

Friedturd would be like the lib founder Pig Iron Bob, sell this nation out because an oligarch demanded it, but old friedturd its numerous lobbies.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

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We are a sub regional power at best, what should we do?

Send in the army? Fund insurgents?

Those 2 actions have gone very very well for western nations post world war 2.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

i wonder if anyone sees the irony in criminalising hate speech unless it comes from a holy book.

My only experience is with Christianity, which was inflicted on me as a child, and later at various weddings funerals etc. Maybe my memory has failed , but i can't recall anything i'd classify as "hate speech ". Yes i know what's in the bible, but , Christianity by its very nature focussed on the new testament. Though not familiar with it, i wouldn't expect that the vast majority of Islamic clerics would have sermons that differ wildly from the Articals of faith, or the Pillars of Islam. The main branches of Christianity are part of a very strict hierarchy. Any stand alone Christian branches, especially with radically different views to the main branches, would risk being labelled a cult, and would be subject to hate speech laws if they acted in that manner.

In the USA the Westboro Baptist Church is considered a hate group, not protected by its claimed right as a religion, but by the constitution. I'd like to think that if such a group existed in Australia, the types of laws being discussed would shut them down.

 

[NSWCROW]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah if i'm diutton or julie bishop, i wouldn't be clearing my calendar.

 

[NSWCROW]

If I was Albo, I'd nominate a pro-israeli jew as ambassador, who is reasonably aligned with the Labor party. It would give the person an insight into the workings of the Trump universe - an insider rather than an outsider. Obviously pro-palestinian australians wouldnt like it, but I havent seen anything in Australia's diplomatic position so far that has helped the palestinians. You could argue that an attractive middle aged woman would be an advantage too, as she wouldnt be admonishing Trump about anything and Trump seems to have a problem with women who take him on. On the other hand, he doesn't respect women's opinions, so the role would probably entail a lot of flattery. I certainly agree that boring old men would be a disaster and a know-all like Rudd is probably worst case scenario.

Good way to get sharri markson off tv lol

 

[Markfs]

My only experience is with Christianity, which was inflicted on me as a child, and later at various weddings funerals etc. Maybe my memory has failed , but i can't recall anything i'd classify as "hate speech ". Yes i know what's in the bible, but , Christianity by its very nature focussed on the new testament. Though not familiar with it, i wouldn't expect that the vast majority of Islamic clerics would have sermons that differ wildly from the Articals of faith, or the Pillars of Islam. The main branches of Christianity are part of a very strict hierarchy. Any stand alone Christian branches, especially with radically different views to the main branches, would risk being labelled a cult, and would be subject to hate speech laws if they acted in that manner.

In the USA the Westboro Baptist Church is considered a hate group, not protected by its claimed right as a religion, but by the constitution. I'd like to think that if such a group existed in Australia, the types of laws being discussed would shut them down.

Like islam, the majority of christians arent schooled in hate speech. However, it's not as if it doesnt happen. Israel Folau and his wife as members of a pentecostal church, stated that gays would go to hell, in the gay marriage debate a few years back. I know gays dont rate the same as jewish australians, but they probably felt unfairly targeted by these two and these churches havent gone away.

More traditional christian churches do tend to concentrate on Jesus and the new testament, but the newer churches like the old testament for the punishments and the retributions. The US are big players in this area, but I believe pentecostals are the churches getting most of the new members here in recent years.

 

[Markfs]

Good way to get sharri markson off tv lol

Sharri would try to undermine the australian gov't. I was proposing someone aligned to the jewish cause, who could use the position to keep australia out of trouble for the next few years.

 

[Saint]

Like islam, the majority of christians arent schooled in hate speech. However, it's not as if it doesnt happen. Israel Folau and his wife as members of a pentecostal church, stated that gays would go to hell, in the gay marriage debate a few years back. I know gays dont rate the same as jewish australians, but they probably felt unfairly targeted by these two and these churches havent gone away.

More traditional christian churches do tend to concentrate on Jesus and the new testament, but the newer churches like the old testament for the punishments and the retributions. The US are big players in this area, but I believe pentecostals are the churches getting most of the new members here in recent years.

I'm not expecting the US to ban Christianity any time soon....

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mississippi-synagogue-arson-suspect-hid-extremism-behind-scripture-backed-fitness-persona/

 

[Markfs]

I'm not expecting the US to ban Christianity any time soon....

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mississippi-synagogue-arson-suspect-hid-extremism-behind-scripture-backed-fitness-persona/

The US is an interesting case. In another universe, the attacks on jews there would more widespread, considering americans warlike approach to solving problems. Fortunately, the "judeo-christian" has been created, largely by the churches there based on questionable translations of the bible...I'm sure you've seen the ted cruz oath of loyalty to israel.

if this judeo-christian nexis is broken within the magas, all hell could break loose for jewish americans, although I know that the empire is trying to shut down the younger folk's communication networks and to re-program them through the churches.

On another matter, I was just browsing and found out that China has made religions illegal for under 18s. I read it in a christian rights report that appears reasonably reliable, although everyone lies these days. The reason the gov't used, it appears, is to allow young people to mature without the indoctrination (my summary). On first glance, I must say that I agree with the ban. We ban smokes for kids, alcohol, etc etc until they grow up. Why not religion? If adults want to take on a crutch to assist themselves with living, thats their choice.

This thought was sparked by a visit from two young jehovah's yesterday. I said to them, sorry, not interested, but I regret not speaking to them about whether they actually believe the crap, or are merely following what their community says.

 

[Rob R]

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What else should he say or do? It is not our region so who really cares and we shouldn't be wasting military assets or foreign aid there when it is needed to help our region develop so our neighbours can reach their potential, have a better standard of living and resist Xis increasing aggression for the next few years until the people of China do what the Iranians are doing now.

 

[NSWCROW]

Sharri would try to undermine the australian gov't.

Why quit now, amirite !

 

[Rob R]

He's a zero charisma loser, exactly the kind of person Trump would ignore or hate.

Honestly, Greg Moriarty is probably the sensible choice if we are purely looking at competence and qualifications.

Unfortunately it'll probably be Fitzgibbon due to pressure from various defence industry groups and lobbyists. He'd be a terrible choice given he's 100% about himself, and was generally a shithouse Minister. But industry love corruptible figures.

How about we send an experienced diplomat rather than using the position as a three year junket for an ex senior member of whatever party is in power.

 

[Rob R]

The US is an interesting case. In another universe, the attacks on jews there would more widespread, considering americans warlike approach to solving problems. Fortunately, the "judeo-christian" has been created, largely by the churches there based on questionable translations of the bible...I'm sure you've seen the ted cruz oath of loyalty to israel.

if this judeo-christian nexis is broken within the magas, all hell could break loose for jewish americans, although I know that the empire is trying to shut down the younger folk's communication networks and to re-program them through the churches.

On another matter, I was just browsing and found out that China has made religions illegal for under 18s. I read it in a christian rights report that appears reasonably reliable, although everyone lies these days. The reason the gov't used, it appears, is to allow young people to mature without the indoctrination (my summary). On first glance, I must say that I agree with the ban. We ban smokes for kids, alcohol, etc etc until they grow up. Why not religion? If adults want to take on a crutch to assist themselves with living, thats their choice.

This thought was sparked by a visit from two young jehovah's yesterday. I said to them, sorry, not interested, but I regret not speaking to them about whether they actually believe the crap, or are merely following what their community says.

Yet the CCP makes it mandatory to start school days praising Xi's policies and studying why they are so good. Fully agree we need our kids to have the opportunity to grow, learn and develop their own beliefs but most nations banning something do it in order to remove a potential rival to their doctrine.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

The US is an interesting case. In another universe, the attacks on jews there would more widespread, considering americans warlike approach to solving problems. Fortunately, the "judeo-christian" has been created, largely by the churches there based on questionable translations of the bible...I'm sure you've seen the ted cruz oath of loyalty to israel.

if this judeo-christian nexis is broken within the magas, all hell could break loose for jewish americans, although I know that the empire is trying to shut down the younger folk's communication networks and to re-program them through the churches.

On another matter, I was just browsing and found out that China has made religions illegal for under 18s. I read it in a christian rights report that appears reasonably reliable, although everyone lies these days. The reason the gov't used, it appears, is to allow young people to mature without the indoctrination (my summary). On first glance, I must say that I agree with the ban. We ban smokes for kids, alcohol, etc etc until they grow up. Why not religion? If adults want to take on a crutch to assist themselves with living, thats their choice.

This thought was sparked by a visit from two young jehovah's yesterday. I said to them, sorry, not interested, but I regret not speaking to them about whether they actually believe the crap, or are merely following what their community says.

You raise some interesting points. First "Judeo-Christian" wasn't created in America, it refers to the common roots of Judaism and Christianity, as well as shared values such as justice and human dignity, on which much of Western civilisation is based. Living here in Australia, nearly everything you believe in that is good comes from those roots, whether you are religious or not.

If Chinese kids are interested enough in the forbidden, which is what kids do, they will find out about religions and it will appeal to some, just like it appeals to some everywhere. Everyone needs something to believe in, and if it's not religion, there will be a cause, or a lifestyle. Or they find comfort in knowing they are part of a like-minded subset of society, no matter what it is. Radicalisation may be one subset; activism for saving animals could be another.

People adopt belief in something greater because it provides meaning, resilience, moral grounding, social cohesion and perspective.

I once invited a JW caller into my house for a chat. He was a nice bloke, Islander I think, and we talked about a few things but not much about religion. Communication is all that's needed. You could have asked your callers to explain what it was that attracted them to their beliefs. They probably have just found a place where they fit.

 

[Not Important]

gave in to zionist pressure would be my guess.



or kenneth roth

 

[Rob R]

Like islam, the majority of christians arent schooled in hate speech. However, it's not as if it doesnt happen. Israel Folau and his wife as members of a pentecostal church, stated that gays would go to hell, in the gay marriage debate a few years back. I know gays dont rate the same as jewish australians, but they probably felt unfairly targeted by these two and these churches havent gone away.

More traditional christian churches do tend to concentrate on Jesus and the new testament, but the newer churches like the old testament for the punishments and the retributions. The US are big players in this area, but I believe pentecostals are the churches getting most of the new members here in recent years.

It's scary how much hate groups (from all religions and cultures) are growing- largely because of social media and the need to find someone to blame - foreigners, Muslims, Jews, Christians, whites, blacks, Asians whoever is in the minority or is seen to have it better or easier.

 

[Not Important]

this:

 

[Rob R]

You raise some interesting points. First "Judeo-Christian" wasn't created in America, it refers to the common roots of Judaism and Christianity, as well as shared values such as justice and human dignity, on which much of Western civilisation is based. Living here in Australia, nearly everything you believe in that is good comes from those roots, whether you are religious or not.

If Chinese kids are interested enough in the forbidden, which is what kids do, they will find out about religions and it will appeal to some, just like it appeals to some everywhere. Everyone needs something to believe in, and if it's not religion, there will be a cause, or a lifestyle. Or they find comfort in knowing they are part of a like-minded subset of society, no matter what it is. Radicalisation may be one subset; activism for saving animals could be another.

People adopt belief in something greater because it provides meaning, resilience, moral grounding, social cohesion and perspective.

I once invited a JW caller into my house for a chat. He was a nice bloke, Islander I think, and we talked about a few things but not much about religion. Communication is all that's needed. You could have asked your callers to explain what it was that attracted them to their beliefs. They probably have just found a place where they fit

Most people don't realise how much in common core Jewish, Christian and Islamic beliefs have. The differences arise from the culture, situation and the leadership. Especially the latter.