Training Pre-season 2026

[Groupie_]

Yep.

the stand rule era premiers are all asterisks

the league has been on hiatus since 2021

clown league until the stand rule is removed

 

[beema limapep]

the stand rule era premiers are all asterisks

the league has been on hiatus since 2021

clown league until the stand rule is removed

And no dynasty since.

 

[Groupie_]

And no dynasty since.

bears were gonna stand rule era three peat but louie neale rooted his wifes friend in the gabba car park

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Its all about individual AA players in his book. Punt road is Less stars/ more role players.

Yep, shifting the test from which teams were more successful to which teams were more successful in getting Cornes' stamp of approval for AA selection due to home and away exploits. In his opinion.

So in other words, Kane thinks his opinion of how individual players performed in home and away matches is a better delineator of how good a team is than those teams' actual performances in finals.

Makes sense only if you are totally inskane.

 

[beema limapep]

bears were gonna stand rule era three peat but louie neale rooted his wifes friend in the gabba car park

Do ya reckon this track got a run in the Camira?

 

[Lord of the Wings]

bears were gonna stand rule era three peat but louie neale rooted his wifes friend in the gabba car park

Not the first trouser snake to end a Premiership era unfortunately.

 

[Groupie_]

Do ya reckon this track got a run in the Camira?

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he was playing motley crew's "im gonna cut your lunch"

 

[beema limapep]

he was playing motley crew's "im gonna cut your lunch"

Or too fast for love

 

[Muddiemoose]

He is trolling, but nevertheless, it is worth underlining how ludicrous his ranking of Richmond 2017 & 2020 is.

1. the 2017 team smashed the other 3 teams who finished top 4 in the finals series by a minimum of 6 goals. They won the Grand Final by 48 points against a team who had dominated their 2 finals in that series. Richmond conceded 22 goals in 3 matches in that finals series, opposed only by top 4 teams. The best opposition teams in the competition could not come close to coping with Richmond's defence, or Dusty. In 2017 Richmond lost only 1 of its last 13 matches, v Geelong at Geelong.

2. the 2020 team needed to overcome all sorts or tribulations in order to win the flag. Nankervis, Edwards, Houli, Astbury and Prestia all missed around half the season or more. Lynch missed the first final altogether. That final and the Preliminary were played against teams on the opponent's home ground and the Grand Final was played against the Cats on their temporary 2020 home ground. Once Lynch returned and the long term absences had at least a couple of games each, the team performed exceptionally well. The Grand Final win was ultimately dominant, and had the game been played out over the normal duration, all indications were it would have been a 10 goal+ margin.

Premiership teams who won 3 flags and a minor Premiership in a 4 year period are not going to be in the bottom few flag teams within a quarter century period, that is patently ludicrous. But to really show how ridiculous it is....

- The 3 Richmond flag teams conceded the equivalent of 7.8 goals per final they played, and this is after adjusting for the shorter duration 2020 matches. This is the lowest of the AFL era and probably the lowest in history barring eras where grounds had no drainage when there was heavy rain. Remember that is 7.8 goals per game conceded v teams that finished 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4, 4, 6, 6 on the home and away ladder. All matches were played in good conditions. These were the best teams in the competition, who between them could not manage to average 8 goals per final against these Richmond teams. There is every chance this Richmond defence would have broken any team in the AFL era.

- Richmond's dynasty Grand Final percentage, 222%, is the highest in the history of the competition for any team to play in multiple Grand Finals within a 7 year period. No other team has even come close to that in 128 years of history.


When people rate Premiership teams retrospectively, they tend to rate them according to how those teams were expected to perform in finals, rather than how they actually performed.

A lot forget that Adelaide went into the 2017 final as healthy faves as well after finishing minor premieres

We will never know but it would be interesting to know how they would of rated the crows in retrospect if they had won it

 

[Lord of the Wings]

A lot forget that Adelaide went into the 2017 final as healthy faves as well after finishing minor premieres

We will never know but it would be interesting to know how they would of rated the crows in retrospect if they had won it

Exactly. Plus we hadn't beaten Geesook in a long time and knocked them off in the Qualifying final in our first finals break through for 20yrs.

 

[Roachy8]

Its all about individual AA players in his book. Punt road is Less stars/ more role players.

As is evidenced by Korn listing Shane Edwards amongst his list of Tiger role players during our era - sure we had a few role players (who are critically important in a successful team) but Shedda was far from a role player.

Triple premiership, AA 300 plus game players are 100% elite A graders....

 

[Yze does it]

A lot forget that Adelaide went into the 2017 final as healthy faves as well after finishing minor premieres

We will never know but it would be interesting to know how they would of rated the crows in retrospect if they had won it

2017 Adelaide topped the AAs with 3.
equal with Essadon 3 AAs WCE 3 AAs

2018 peak RFC AA performance with 4. Including Edwards.

Hawks, WCE 3 AAs,

5 Dees in the 2021 AA.

Personally I rated the Lions Aker, Voss Lions era as the best teams. F this All Australian crap anyhow. A team that never plays.

 

[Morro]

As is evidenced by Korn listing Shane Edwards amongst his list of Tiger role players during our era - sure we had a few role players (who are critically important in a successful team) but Shedda was far from a role player.

Triple premiership, AA 300 plus game players are 100% elite A graders....

I feel like the role player line gets over played so much nowadays. Everyone of those so called role players played elite football for their positions pretty ****ing regularly.

 

[LTT]

Let me guess Cornes has 2004 Premiership team ranked no 1

I wonder if Kane mentions that Port had a home QF and an extra day break before the GF even though Brisbane finished higher than them and should have had that advantage. Plus, Brisbane was a team of walking wounded when Port beat them.

 

[tiger_tough]

I feel like....

Stopped reading here...

 

[THE THIN MAN]

A lot forget that Adelaide went into the 2017 final as healthy faves as well after finishing minor premieres

We will never know but it would be interesting to know how they would of rated the crows in retrospect if they had won it

Don't forget they had already booked a first class seat for the premiership cup.

 

[Muddiemoose]

2017 Adelaide topped the AAs with 3.
equal with Essadon 3 AAs WCE 3 AAs

2018 peak RFC AA performance with 4. Including Edwards.

Hawks, WCE 3 AAs,

5 Dees in the 2021 AA.

Personally I rated the Lions Aker, Voss Lions era as the best teams. F this All Australian crap anyhow. A team that never plays.

Agree

AA is nice and all but it’s still really subjective every year there is at least one howler of a selection and that’s before we even talk about how the team would actually line up (midfielders on the flanks and wings) and never look a picking a viable ruck support option

 

[sante]

What does any of this have to do with pre season?

 

[DickieKnee]

A lot forget that Adelaide went into the 2017 final as healthy faves as well after finishing minor premieres

We will never know but it would be interesting to know how they would of rated the crows in retrospect if they had won it

Wel Crows have done SFA since making the 2017 GF, we went on to win 2 more flags.
Then again maybe we totally broke that club.

 

[DickieKnee]

What does any of this have to do with pre season?

Pre season banter.

 

[Dr Tigris]

For such a good kick, he turns it over a lot. He tries dinky shit options and doesn’t just commit to one option. That stuff looks flashy at junior level which is where he seems to have peaked.

2nd half last season Sonz started to regularly hit targets and stop doing those weird crap kicks. He also did a lot of hard physical grunt work around stoppages etc. I really wonder if they see a potential A grader with his talent, but attitude and ability to do the grunt stuff was too poor. So get his head switched on and see if he can take if from there. if he can take that grunt hard work and add in his silk he can be very good.

Someone without his skill would be long gone by now. Interesting year for Sonz, he knows he either steps up of he is on the goodbye list. I reckon he does enough stuff that is elite to work out. But taking that flash here and there to regular play is often a huge step. Lot of guys with immense talent just never quite make it.

 

[Ralll]

We had something like 18 AA squad members during the Hardwick reign and 14 were premiership players.
No doubt squad members < final team but still shows how highly talented the premiership teams were.

 

[Groupie_]

We had something like 18 AA squad members during the Hardwick reign and 14 were premiership players.
No doubt squad members < final team but still shows how highly talented the premiership teams were.

imagine the aa's if the same team wore navy hoops

 

[THE_GUN]

And no dynasty since.

Brisbane Lions will win their 3 peat in 2026

 

[THE_GUN]

Not the first trouser snake to end a Premiership era unfortunately.

Whilst your typing Tyler Sonsie is at your place cutting your lunch