Player Watch #11 Luke Trainor

[Tiger_4_Life]

I'll admit I've had some doubts about Trainor but I'm surprised to see the overwhelming negativity already. Hope he has a solid year and keeps building, he doesn't have to do it all.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

You're missing the point, aren't you? So you play players that have no future and leave a kid that was more than ok at HB but shifted to mid and forward because they wanted to accommodate a banks or short, and now finds himself in the VFL. Even types like Fow Ralf Sonz Ryan OHB getting games and expecting to improve is ridiculous. As for Balta Miller, I never mentioned them, and they play different positions than Trainnor.

What's wrong with adopting a policy where in a given role you have to be the best available player from the list to be picked in that role?

 

[wegetpumped]

What's wrong with adopting a policy where in a given role you have to be the best available player from the list to be picked in that role?

Ok on form banks short even brown are so much better than a kid in his first year was staring for the first 5 games, then moved on to other positions because the bank types were struggling. F me, even Tresise is getting gifted games at hb. I saw our starting 18 the other day and shook my head and said how the f we suppose to improve with this crap. If that's the form you're talking about, well, I can't argue.

 

[The Vaucluse]

Let’s not eat our own. Trainor is starting out on his career, plugged gaps in 2025, he’s brave, played every game and picked up a Rising Star nomination, which isn’t easy for a Tiger given Shifter Sheehan (Geelong Stooge) has the casting vote. Anyway, he has shown many AFL attributes and is being groomed to replace either Broad or Vlastuin. Before people crack on about his kicking, I’ve seen both Broad & Vlastuin miss many easy passes and they are both legends of our club.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Let’s not eat our own. Trainor is starting out on his career, plugged gaps in 2025, he’s brave, played every game and picked up a Rising Star nomination, which isn’t easy for a Tiger given Shifter Sheehan (Geelong Stooge) has the casting vote. Anyway, he has shown many AFL attributes and is being groomed to replace either Broad or Vlastuin. Before people crack on about his kicking, I’ve seen both Broad & Vlastuin miss many easy passes and they are both legends of our club.

I think he’ll end up being a good kick. Mechanics of his action appear good, it’s the decision making that can let him down and will improve with experience. He’s a confident kid and plays that way.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Let’s not eat our own.

No club supporters eat their own like Essendon supporters - they're god level.

But we're definitely in second place.

Look at that, I'm even starting to eat our own supporters

 

[Grockadoc]

He'll be solid with time, but his disposal is atrocious and needs serious work. Missing so many easy 25-30m kicks under no pressure is not god enough in an era where scores from turnovers are at an all time high.

 

[Grrr]

He'll be solid with time, but his disposal is atrocious and needs serious work. Missing so many easy 25-30m kicks under no pressure is not god enough in an era where scores from turnovers are at an all time high.

It comes with composure and confidence. We all remember the year Edwards couldn't hit the barn much less the door. I think Brown has a case of it at the moment. He can kick the lights out, but miss one or two and you don't want to mess up, so you stop backing yourself. Ross was kicking with great efficiency last season, before that missed a few and went safe.

How many times did Dusty kick a howler, but he was Dusty so he kept on doing it, and the howlers disappeared, mostly.

Kicking is largely between the ears and it takes a few seasons at the top level before. As mentioned Trainer has a good action so playing him in the VFL until his confidence rises and he doesn't miss will be good for him.

 

[Black Saab]

It comes with composure and confidence. We all remember the year Edwards couldn't hit the barn much less the door. I think Brown has a case of it at the moment. He can kick the lights out, but miss one or two and you don't want to mess up, so you stop backing yourself. Ross was kicking with great efficiency last season, before that missed a few and went safe.

How many times did Dusty kick a howler, but he was Dusty so he kept on doing it, and the howlers disappeared, mostly.

Kicking is largely between the ears and it takes a few seasons at the top level before. As mentioned Trainer has a good action so playing him in the VFL until his confidence rises and he doesn't miss will be good for him.

I still remember Rancey turning the ball over in very costly ways in his early years. The kind of incredible stuff the seemed beyond belief but he came pretty good.

 

[wegetpumped]

I still remember Rancey turning the ball over in very costly ways in his early years. The kind of incredible stuff the seemed beyond belief but he came pretty good.

We were very crap back in those days and perhaps he was trying much harder than he should. As they progressed together confidence came and end results well we all know. The other thing with rance he wasn't dropped much from memory maybe 2 times. Where this kid has and watching all the players going down can't even get a game so big diffence.

 

[SplintWhisky]

What's wrong with adopting a policy where in a given role you have to be the best available player from the list to be picked in that role?

I would say this ignores developing players a lot. Like for example, a Short or the like could be dropped for a Trainor to be able to develop.

Take the Sam Mitchell approach and basically say "For 3 years we will be shit as we get around 60 games into these kids, then they will blossom."

 

[Grrr]

We were very crap back in those days and perhaps he was trying much harder than he should. As they progressed together confidence came and end results well we all know. The other thing with rance he wasn't dropped much from memory maybe 2 times. Where this kid has and watching all the players going down can't even get a game so big diffence.

They aren't dropping in the backline. Miller and Balta locks. Broad and Vlastuin locks. Gibcus and Trainor fighting for the one spot, Gibcus has been there longer, top 10 pick and deserves a good look at. Short is a lock, I wish he wasn't but he is right now. Banks and Brown and add Grjl. Bum fight for a spot. It won't hurt him to spend a few weeks in the VFL before he gets a shot.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I would say this ignores developing players a lot. Like for example, a Short or the like could be dropped for a Trainor to be able to develop.

Take the Sam Mitchell approach and basically say "For 3 years we will be shit as we get around 60 games into these kids, then they will blossom."

Shouldn't Sam Mitchell have been playing Mckenzie ahead of Morrison last year then?

A lot of very good players have developed playing plenty of games in the seconds over the years.

 

[captain cotch 9]

He will cement his spot when Broad retires.
Broad isnt a great kick either so it will be a logical swap IMO.

 

[TJTIGER]

He will cement his spot when Broad retires.
Broad isnt a great kick either so it will be a logical swap IMO.

I was just thinking & wondering about this issue. Who is the (if there is one?) Heir apparent? To the retirement of Nathan Broad... could it be Brown? Or is he better suited to elsewhere?

 

[Grrr]

I was just thinking & wondering about this issue. Who is the (if there is one?) Heir apparent? To the retirement of Nathan Broad... could it be Brown? Or is he better suited to elsewhere?

Broad plays tall and small, Brown pretty much small/medium. Trainor is more similar to Broad. Right now Brown has to raise his game as he is not really pro-active as a half back anywhere near what he could be. Not sure he is a lock with Grjl breathing down his neck, who is very pro-active.

 

[tiger_tough]

Kid will be a ****ing gun. Had a great first year. He will be better off developing in the twos for a bit.

 

[captain cotch 9]

I was just thinking & wondering about this issue. Who is the (if there is one?) Heir apparent? To the retirement of Nathan Broad... could it be Brown? Or is he better suited to elsewhere?

I think Trainors natural position and role is the one that Broad is playing at the moment.
3rd/4th tall that can play against talls or smalls.

 

[Morro]

I think Trainors natural position and role is the one that Broad is playing at the moment.
3rd/4th tall that can play against talls or smalls.

I didnt hate him on the wing, still think he could be a point of difference.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Reckon we have a winner here. Showed some absolutely amazing stuff last year. Played high exposure spots and did well. Given he is a KP size and skinny as he will mature into something pretty special.

3 years to get the size and fitness, learn how to AFL and he has shown more than enough to be a great pick up.

 

[Black Saab]

We were very crap back in those days and perhaps he was trying much harder than he should. As they progressed together confidence came and end results well we all know. The other thing with rance he wasn't dropped much from memory maybe 2 times. Where this kid has and watching all the players going down can't even get a game so big diffence.

Back on early days Rancey, I can't remember who we were playing but it was a night game at the G and the game was a good contest.

We won the ball at full back and were moving on the rebound, the crowd riding the momentum switch, growing in guttural voice at the prospect of exciting opportunity.

It gets looped to Alex who had the field in front of him at half back. He holds up turns 90 degrees to face the opposite flank and launches a pass attempting to swap flanks. Instead of going straight across the base of the defensive side of the centre square he shanks the kick backwards into the 50 and finds some sap on the other team jogging back on the transition about 40 metres out who takes the uncontested grab, goes back and kicks the goal.

Look, this is a disembodied memory. I cannot recall who we were playing or what our season was like contextually or if we won or lost that game.

I remember Richmond supporters getting stuck into Rancey because that wasn't the first time he'd turned over a crucial ball. I remember myself thinking "this guy is so unreliable."

Yeah, disembodied memories ay?

 

[Calcium Man]

We were very crap back in those days and perhaps he was trying much harder than he should. As they progressed together confidence came and end results well we all know. The other thing with rance he wasn't dropped much from memory maybe 2 times. Where this kid has and watching all the players going down can't even get a game so big diffence.

The only afl games he’s missed since joining the club was due to him being managed. He didn’t play vfl during those 2 weeks.

 

[partycorolla]

What's wrong with adopting a policy where in a given role you have to be the best available player from the list to be picked in that role?

Why are you advocating for a policy that is biased against Shorty?