List Mgmt. List Management 2026-27

[PeacefulWarrior]

Sav, Aliir, BZT, Ramm - should be enough to get you a solid defence.

If we’re going into games with that backline next year and beyond then heaven help us all

Add in Jones and it’s Benny Hill territory

 

[Windy Cindy]

Crows are throwing 7 years for $10 million. You would think Port will have to offer a little bit more considering where we are and where they are regarding their list.

we absolutely have to get this guy, if nothing else but to stop the crows..

hes a gun and proven big game player coming into his prime.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

we absolutely have to get this guy, if nothing else but to stop the crows..

hes a gun and proven big game player coming into his prime.

7 years for 11 million? Extra million will do wonders if a player is looking to get setup for life post footy in this current climate.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I love Butters and want him to stay but if we are rebuilding or if he leaves, I want three first rounders in 2026 to help getting Cochrane and some top midfielders and tall timber defenders.

Then doing our best to grab Pilot, Salopek, Rodan, Tambe in the next year.

Still got a ways to go though.

 

[Addy23]

Whether Port win from a Butters trade or not hinges on if they get Bailey. I know that it is independent of each other but, if we flip Butters for 3 first rounders (that are inside top 15) and Bailey, I think Port will be better off compared to simply keeping Butters.

 

[240volt]

Whether Port win from a Butters trade or not hinges on if they get Bailey. I know that it is independent of each other but, if we flip Butters for 3 first rounders (that are inside top 15) and Bailey, I think Port will be better off compared to simply keeping Butters.

Honestly he’s a two time premiership winner and All Australian.
What would be the attraction of coming to a Port side that’s going to struggle.
Honest question as I haven’t heard one thing to give me any confidence he would come to us.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Honestly he’s a two time premiership winner and All Australian.
What would be the attraction of coming to a Port side that’s going to struggle.
Honest question as I haven’t heard one thing to give me any confidence he would come to us.

Why did Dawson and Rankine go to the crows when they were pretty much shite? Players choose clubs for all sorts of reasons, not least being they think they can make a side better.

I had heard last year that Port did some heavy lifting on Bailey that was sidetracked by Wanganeen-Milera becoming a possibility. The crows aren't the only ones into Bailey and they may not even be the first date.

 

[240volt]

Why did Dawson and Rankine go to the crows when they were pretty much shite? Players choose clubs for all sorts of reasons, not least being they think they can make a side better.

I had heard last year that Port did some heavy lifting on Bailey that was sidetracked by Wanganeen-Milera becoming a possibility. The crows aren't the only ones into Bailey and they may not even be the first date.

We know Dawson was a big crow fan growing up and I think Rankine was also, not sure.
So there was something there to attract them to the Crows.
I’ve just never heard of a reason that would attract him to us.
Be great if we could get him.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

We know Dawson was a big crow fan growing up and I think Rankine was also, not sure.
So there was something there to attract them to the Crows.
I’ve just never heard of a reason that would attract him to us.
Be great if we could get him.

Rankine was a Crows supporter growing up.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Rankine was a Crows supporter growing up.

Of course he was

Has “massive flog” written all over him

 

[Wargreymon90]

I love Butters and want him to stay but if we are rebuilding or if he leaves, I want three first rounders in 2026 to help getting Cochrane and some top midfielders and tall timber defenders.

Then doing our best to grab Pilot, Salopek, Rodan, Tambe in the next year.

Still got a ways to go though.

I don’t know how anyone would be happy with this outcome.

Brisbane didn’t need to lose Mcluggage lever player to secure the ashcrofts, fletcher etc.

Bulldogs didn’t need to lose Bont to get all their academy/father sons.

I understand we are going to be screwed by the new bidding rules, but If we lose our best player and only get capital to get players we are entitled to, that would be nothing short of a disaster.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I don’t know how anyone would be happy with this outcome.

Brisbane didn’t need to lose Mcluggage lever player to secure the ashcrofts, fletcher etc.

Bulldogs didn’t need to lose Bont to get all their academy/father sons.

I understand we are going to be screwed by the new bidding rules, but If we lose our best player and only get capital to get players we are entitled to, that would be nothing short of a disaster.

The cards we are dealt because AFL, Koch and Stinkley.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I don’t know how anyone would be happy with this outcome.

Brisbane didn’t need to lose Mcluggage lever player to secure the ashcrofts, fletcher etc.

Bulldogs didn’t need to lose Bont to get all their academy/father sons.

I understand we are going to be screwed by the new bidding rules, but If we lose our best player and only get capital to get players we are entitled to, that would be nothing short of a disaster.

This is going to happen to us, and then the AFL are going to realise the rules are too stringent and loosen them back off.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

This is going to happen to us, and then the AFL are going to realise the rules are too stringent and loosen them back off.

And the vic media will chuckle it away and move on

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I don’t know how anyone would be happy with this outcome.

Brisbane didn’t need to lose Mcluggage lever player to secure the ashcrofts, fletcher etc.

Bulldogs didn’t need to lose Bont to get all their academy/father sons.

I understand we are going to be screwed by the new bidding rules, but If we lose our best player and only get capital to get players we are entitled to, that would be nothing short of a disaster.

You didn't read my post correctly at all.

If Butters leaves, I want the capital from a Butters trade to go into fresh, young talent outside of the Academy, Father Sons. My preference for 2026 would be Cochrane, stud midfielders and KPD.

In 2027, do our best without the Butters picks because we've already spent them and grab Pilot, Salopek, Rodan, Tambe, etc. with whatever draft capital we have.

 

[all seeing eye]

Pressure like this helps. Vics worried about poor crowds and linking it to the demise of the big Vic clubs and the despair of those supporters.

The numbers that reveal the AFL’s brewing problem​

By​

March 17, 2026 — 12.05pm





Part of article details Carltons predictment , hopefully AFL house feels some pressure and we indirectly benefit -

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The Blues have taken the right approach in their decision to step back to assemble a genuine contender – Jagga Smith and Harry Dean are foundations of the reset. Next year, they will be joined by father-son Cody Walker, a potential top two pick in the draft.

Unfortunately for the Blues, they will pay a far heftier price for Walker and Dean than the Lions did for Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher in 2022, when Brisbane landed both, plus Josh Dunkley

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, a scenario nigh impossible under the new draft rules for father-son and academy players (without losing, say Zac Bailey

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and another good player).

The clubs’ objections to Brisbane’s father-son jackpot and a few academy recruits – and to those of the Bulldogs, Collingwood and Gold Coast (academy only), thus, have rebounded on Carlton.

The Blues have been lobbying the AFL to spare them from the new rule – a delay to the change that would mean they must give up two genuine first-round picks for Walker, subject to where the bid for him lands."

 

[Gryllis]

Excellent. That's exactly what we need Carlton to do.

With how many Thursday and Friday night games Carlton get to start every season, the AFL will clearly listen to them.

Plus the AFL still gets to screw Port by bringing the changes in from 2027, which still feels too soon, which seems to be the main goal of rushing this. Just not quite as badly.

 

[philthy05]

Whether Port win from a Butters trade or not hinges on if they get Bailey. I know that it is independent of each other but, if we flip Butters for 3 first rounders (that are inside top 15) and Bailey, I think Port will be better off compared to simply keeping Butters.

3 top 15 picks for butters is a horrid deal for us in terms of what we lose versus likely gain with those picks… and it’s also very likely unattainable..

No team has 3 2026 1st rounders to trade to us.
Due to following expan drafts there’s gonna be very few top 2026 1sts available. Plus other teams will want them for their ngas / f/s ie Carlton.

The odds of getting a top 15 2027 pick is incredibly slim. Thanks to Tassie having dibs on a bunch of the top 15 even before compo picks are added, you basically land what would have been pick 5 would end up pick 15. The odds of somehow getting one the the top few 2027 1st rounders included in a deal when butters will be looking at contending teams is very low.


This is why we need a team to have quality players on the table. We need to be making noises now that any team interested is gonna have to be willing to part with quality players or he can go to the cellar dweller. Players dont have to come to us can go in a 3 way trade ie sanders to crows or whatever if that unlocks better picks for us.

You didn't read my post correctly at all.

If Butters leaves, I want the capital from a Butters trade to go into fresh, young talent outside of the Academy, Father Sons. My preference for 2026 would be Cochrane, stud midfielders and KPD.

In 2027, do our best without the Butters picks because we've already spent them and grab Pilot, Salopek, Rodan, Tambe, etc. with whatever draft capital we have.

I’m not sure how we can guarantee we’re getting picks to use outside of nga’s when nga costs are going sky high and 2027 and 2028 draft picks are gonna be worth half their value ie 2026 dogs 1st rounder could be pick 18 , 2027 1st could be pick 30 something.

The gws expan draft 2nd round started at pick 29 from memory, and there was fewer picks being pushed back then. Far fewer.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Although Tassie hold a huge handful of the early draft picks for 27, one of their requirements is that they have to use some of them in trades and not take them to the draft.

5,7,11 and 13 are on the table for trades for 2027. The Dogs or any club wanting Butters, will have to work out a way to get minimum 1 but maybe 2 of those picks of they are to offer a reasonable price. That will likely require them parting with a player or two and upping their F1 position.

 

[PatientMental]

Although Tassie hold a huge handful of the early draft picks for 27, one of their requirements is that they have to use some of them in trades and not take them to the draft.

5,7,11 and 13 are on the table for trades for 2027. The Dogs or any club wanting Butters, will have to work out a way to get minimum 1 but maybe 2 of those picks of they are to offer a reasonable price. That will likely require them parting with a player or two and upping their F1 position.

They dont enter the trade until 2027 though

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

They dont enter the trade until 2027 though

Dammit, forgot that subtle detail…

 

[Long live PAFC]

If we’re going into games with that backline next year and beyond then heaven help us all

Add in Jones and it’s Benny Hill territory

It’s not that bad. Aliir was AA, Sav and Jones can be elite if they get a consistent run at it. Ramm is still developing and BZT is serviceable. Add Dougie Cochrane and get Marshall’s intercepting up to scratch and it’s a good group.

The crows, pies, hawks, - all have built elite defences with a varying level of quality players. Guys like Frost, Frampton, Butts, Murray, Keane, etc - didn’t start out as elite but have come to play a very high level role. Sydney got to a GF with one ok defender in McCartin. There are a handful of elite defenders, a few more very good defenders and mostly average backs. The set up and midfield effort is far more important.

 

[melanChronic]

They dont enter the trade until 2027 though

It's yet another reason to not change the bidding rules until after Tassie come in... half the (actual) first round picks for 2027 aren't on the table until that year's trading period. Clubs have very limited scope to prepare or respond to the changes.

 

[Wargreymon90]

You didn't read my post correctly at all.

If Butters leaves, I want the capital from a Butters trade to go into fresh, young talent outside of the Academy, Father Sons. My preference for 2026 would be Cochrane, stud midfielders and KPD.

In 2027, do our best without the Butters picks because we've already spent them and grab Pilot, Salopek, Rodan, Tambe, etc. with whatever draft capital we have.

Apologise. My post is a general statement then

 

[Peninsula Boy]

3 top 15 picks for butters is a horrid deal for us in terms of what we lose versus likely gain with those picks… and it’s also very likely unattainable..

No team has 3 2026 1st rounders to trade to us.
Due to following expan drafts there’s gonna be very few top 2026 1sts available. Plus other teams will want them for their ngas / f/s ie Carlton.

The odds of getting a top 15 2027 pick is incredibly slim. Thanks to Tassie having dibs on a bunch of the top 15 even before compo picks are added, you basically land what would have been pick 5 would end up pick 15. The odds of somehow getting one the the top few 2027 1st rounders included in a deal when butters will be looking at contending teams is very low.

This is why we need a team to have quality players on the table. We need to be making noises now that any team interested is gonna have to be willing to part with quality players or he can go to the cellar dweller. Players dont have to come to us can go in a 3 way trade ie sanders to crows or whatever if that unlocks better picks for us

I’m not sure how we can guarantee we’re getting picks to use outside of nga’s when nga costs are going sky high and 2027 and 2028 draft picks are gonna be worth half their value ie 2026 dogs 1st rounder could be pick 18 , 2027 1st could be pick 30 something.

The gws expan draft 2nd round started at pick 29 from memory, and there was fewer picks being pushed back then. Far fewer.

Young players with a lot of potential or high draft picks. Whatever. I would prefer draft picks because it means Carr can pick and choose what he wants.

Vic teams have plenty of time to be able to work their magic and try and put a package together for Butters. He's a top 5 player and should demand 3 first rounders but who knows. The last time we had that kind of capital we nabbed Rozee, Butters and Duursma and they helped change the fortunes of the team.

Just depends on who Zak wants to play for. If he chooses the Hawks, we might get a fair bit as they will be desperate for him. There are plenty of ways to get picks, sell next year's picks, three way, four way deals, etc. Busslinger might want to go home and they get something for him.