News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[Grasshopper17]

This east-west orientation business... Is that the direction of the pitch or the direction of the goals? Because if they want it to be like the MCG and Perth it can only be one or the other.

 

[Perrip]

This east-west orientation business... Is that the direction of the pitch or the direction of the goals? Because if they want it to be like the MCG and Perth it can only be one or the other.

Direction of the goals. An East West orientation will ensure the longest measurement of the field will go from the east side of the stadium to the west side of the stadium rather than the south side of the stadium to the north side of the stadium. Similar to Optus Stadium.

 

[Perrip]

Victoria Park to be totally fenced off within 10 weeks for new stadium

The National Aquatic Centre was also planned to be built at Victoria Park, adjacent to the existing Centenary Pool.
“Watch this space,” Bleijie said of the NAC.
“Our principal architect [is] to be awarded next month and GIICA will take over that site, at the old Centenary Pool, in September this year and start early works.”

 

[Hollow Knight]

Remember when we were going to get QSAC with temporary stands?

LMAO. What a ****ing disaster that would have been.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Remember when we were going to get QSAC with temporary stands?

LMAO. What a ****ing disaster that would have been.

Read something somewhere recently where someone said ALP figures knew Miles' QSAC plan was as much of an election gambit as the LNP's "no new stadiums" line.

 

[Section 5]

I have been for a walk through Vic Park a few times over the last year or so, I'm trying to get my bearings though, anyway you could mark where the current driving range is S5... and the proposed Olympic pool location?

Orange X - New Pool
Red - Driving range
Pink - Approximate E- W
Green - Approximate New Stadium

Looks like they or someone else may intend planting a lot of trees in the barren grass areas.

 

[Billy ray]

 

[Grasshopper17]

Victoria Park to be totally fenced off within 10 weeks for new stadium

Well obviously this cannot happen. It's completely untenable. UNTENABLE. I mean where will all the protesters be able to protest?

 

[Perrip]

Well obviously this cannot happen. It's completely untenable. UNTENABLE. I mean where will all the protesters be able to protest?

Honestly the best bit about any Stadium news is getting an insight into their alternative reality. They still haven't talked about Crooks' comment on the testing results from December last year

Olympic venue delivery partner announced, as Victoria Park testing wraps up

 

[notliondown]

Honestly the best bit about any Stadium news is getting an insight into their alternative reality. They still haven't talked about Crooks' comment on the testing results from December last year
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Olympic venue delivery partner announced, as Victoria Park testing wraps up
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If we can build some of the tallest skyscrapers in the world on reclaimed swampland and bottomless sand, then digging a stadium that has a massive footprint and little concentrated weight into the ground is going to be the least of this projects worries... in fact the more of the structure in contact with the soil either under it or "beside it" the less the bearing load becomes.

Using the topography of the park makes this an easier build in a lot of ways so they may need to find another straw to clutch...

 

[notliondown]

Architecturally, it's a bit uninspiring from the inside. Also transparent/translucent roofing is pretty shit in our climate - anyone who's sat underneath a dodgy patio with polycarbonate roofing know how hot it can still get.

I'm not suggesting drastic changes by the time it opens but I'll be hugely surprised if the design we see at the start of the project is identical to the one we see at the end.

I'd reckon this will be the starting point to get the major aspects of the build underway with "hardpoints" locked in but I think budgets, stakeholders, timelines and a million other things (price of energy for a timely example) will cause some of the details to be revisited over and over.

Hopefully by the end this thing is unique enough that people won't be able to compare the 2 stadiums too easily.

 

[Section 5]

 

[Perrip]

I'm not suggesting drastic changes by the time it opens but I'll be hugely surprised if the design we see at the start of the project is identical to the one we see at the end.

I'd reckon this will be the starting point to get the major aspects of the build underway with "hardpoints" locked in but I think budgets, stakeholders, timelines and a million other things (price of energy for a timely example) will cause some of the details to be revisited over and over.

Hopefully by the end this thing is unique enough that people won't be able to compare the 2 stadiums too easily.

Yeah, in the announcement today GIICA describe it as an "early concept design"

 

[Black Panther]

Rockhampton confirmed by World Rowing

International bodies publicly back Rockhampton Olympic rowing venue

It comes as the Queensland government reveals the preferred course options for a controversial central Queensland river chosen as a venue for the 2032 Olympic Games.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Dalions]

Well obviously this cannot happen. It's completely untenable. UNTENABLE. I mean where will all the protesters be able to protest?

All 50 of them, or are they dwindling?

 

[dlanod]

Well obviously this cannot happen. It's completely untenable. UNTENABLE. I mean where will all the protesters be able to protest?

Time to hop on to Google Maps to find nearby green space for them to protest in...

Maybe there's a spot near Springfield, that's where we ended up last time I had to do this.

 

[Perrip]

Brisbane Stadium to be ‘sunk’ into Victoria Park to become ‘world’s best’

Sporting and entertainment fans will soon be asked to volunteer to help brief architects about designs to improve the fan experience.
For the design of Optus Stadium 25 fans helped road-test seats and tasked the catering.

 

[mighty_lions]

Designers of the stadium on the podcast

 

[mighty_lions]

The only question on venues remains the NAC, if Suncorp is in line for the 60,000 upgrade could they put a roof on it and then use it for swimming. You could have swimming in the second week like LA and still have soccer at Suncorp as it usually starts before it tight turn around but I think it would be possible

You could have approximately 35-40k in a 60k seat Suncorp venue that has a roof

The NAC could still be built just a scaled down version (which was happening after anyway) that would host diving and water polo

 

[Perrip]

Designers of the stadium on the podcast

Really insightful listen. Main takeaway is SVP is full of s**t and don't know what the arup masterplan will look like

• Knocking back a lot of the criticism from SVP that the park "will be destroyed"
• How Arup is focused on better connecting the park, and making it more accessible, to QUT, Herston, RNA, the CBD, Roma Street station & parklands, etc. Fundamentally wanting Vic Park to predominantly remain a park and improve it as a green space alongside the stadium. Improving the park as a greenspaece alongside the stadium. Not many people actually go through the park, they just use the perimeter of it.
• They don't think a new train station at Vic Park is worth having, primarily to push the crowds out around the park and enable them to get home via different exits around the park and not into a single area where the new train station is.

 

[mighty_lions]

Really insightful listen. Main takeaway is SVP is full of s**t and don't know what the arup masterplan will look like

• Knocking back a lot of the criticism from SVP that the park "will be destroyed"
• How Arup is focused on better connecting the park, and making it more accessible, to QUT, Herston, RNA, the CBD, Roma Street station & parklands, etc. Fundamentally wanting Vic Park to predominantly remain a park and improve it as a green space alongside the stadium. Improving the park as a greenspaece alongside the stadium. Not many people actually go through the park, they just use the perimeter of it.
• They don't think a new train station at Vic Park is worth having, primarily to push the crowds out around the park and enable them to get home via different exits around the park and not into a single area where the new train station is.

a good point they mentioned is theres no shade thats why no one goes there, you can only really walk through it, theres very minimal shade/areas to stay there

On the train station I agree with there point about walking a distance to a train station but its still going to need a lot of buses and I just don't see that as realistic, to me buses should be an addition to public transport for a stadium not the primary mode

 

[weevil]

a good point they mentioned is theres no shade thats why no one goes there, you can only really walk through it, theres very minimal shade/areas to stay there

On the train station I agree with there point about walking a distance to a train station but its still going to need a lot of buses and I just don't see that as realistic, to me buses should be an addition to public transport for a stadium not the primary mode

I think the stadium's new positioning makes the Ekka station a bit more viable. It’s almost in no-man's-land, not ideal, but it’s not terrible.

I can understand them being unsure about the need to spend stupendous sums on a new station.

 

[Perrip]

a good point they mentioned is theres no shade thats why no one goes there, you can only really walk through it, theres very minimal shade/areas to stay there

The designers actually being realistic about why Victoria Park is so poor and poorly used at the moment and what steps Arup can do to solve those faults was great. The BCC plan was great because it rewilded the underutilized green space, which the Arup masterplan will do too. But it failed to improve the connectivity & accessibility with the different precincts surrounding it, which is a fundamental issue with the park at the moment.

On the train station I agree with there point about walking a distance to a train station but its still going to need a lot of buses and I just don't see that as realistic, to me buses should be an addition to public transport for a stadium not the primary mode

Yeah, it's why I keep hoping we'll get information from Arup sooner rather than later regarding their draft master plan. It's impossible to fully know how long it'll take to walk to Exhibition station or Roma Street without knowing what changes Arup is going to make to those areas connecting Vic Park & RNA and Roma Street.

 

[M Malice]

Designers of the stadium on the podcast

That was a fantastic listen, very confident we will end up with one of the best Stadiums and most aesthetically pleasing Precincts on the Planet, they are planning everything to the nth degree right down to the design of the cup holders, actually made me emotional at what Brisbane could be capable of, love it.

 

[Section 5]

The only question on venues remains the NAC, if Suncorp is in line for the 60,000 upgrade could they put a roof on it and then use it for swimming. You could have swimming in the second week like LA and still have soccer at Suncorp as it usually starts before it tight turn around but I think it would be possible

You could have approximately 35-40k in a 60k seat Suncorp venue that has a roof

The NAC could still be built just a scaled down version (which was happening after anyway) that would host diving and water polo

In my opinion Suncorp should not get any upgrade other than maintenance and what's needed for the media. That will be expensive enough. Same applies to The Gabba.
So that means a slight drop in Suncorp capacity.
Although The Gabba has arears that can be utilized for the media space needed. Not necessarily in the sections mentioned below. But utilize the space and move things around. Those being The Verandah and that huge advertising sign above the interchange bench blocking the view from existing seating. Both interchanges to come down too.

Any grand plans for Suncorp will have a big blowout effect on the minor venues budget which is under strain before anything has been built
Suncorp will be packed for the footy games which the venue is designed for.

What they are planning to do at Rocky will completely blow the minor venues budget to start with. No need to add Suncorp to the list. Getting all the other minor venues (new and upgraded) anywhere close to budget will be a huge effort

I don't see swimming going anywhere but where it's planned next to the Centenary pool.