EDFL Div 2 discussion 2026

[Turbos mail]

Most start at Boundary road in Coburg North and then head up the Hume.

So Auck do you approve of putting a young volunteer goal umpire out to do goals that is about 11-12 years old?? Parents should say “hey I will do it” as these kids get manipulated into a wrong home town decision and trouble will start..
Haddy doing an excellent job and I applaud them but one slip up and it all turns to quickly. All because of lazy parent group.
What’s your thoughts??

 

[Turbos mail]

The EDFL does it every week with field umpires

They are neutral league appointed umpires. FFS understand the discussion..

 

[Aucklander]

So Auck do you approve of putting a young volunteer goal umpire out to do goals that is about 11-12 years old?? Parents should say “hey I will do it” as these kids get manipulated into a wrong home town decision and trouble will start..
Haddy doing an excellent job and I applaud them but one slip up and it all turns to quickly. All because of lazy parent group.
What’s your thoughts??

As someone who has tried to get parents to help out, I say sometimes you just have to do whatever you can so the kids can have a game of footy.

 

[MYOB]

So Auck do you approve of putting a young volunteer goal umpire out to do goals that is about 11-12 years old?? Parents should say “hey I will do it” as these kids get manipulated into a wrong home town decision and trouble will start..
Haddy doing an excellent job and I applaud them but one slip up and it all turns to quickly. All because of lazy parent group.
What’s your thoughts??

When I was 14 ( a long time ago) I goal umpired my clubs thirds team every week.

You seriously are just looking for issues and see the bad in everything.

It must be a horrible way to live.

 

[Thing]

Parents should be putting their hands up, but it's not always that easy.
12 to 15 year olds make up regular league issued umpires, they have to start somewhere.
Field umpire normally makes the decision for goal, point, other, kid goal umpires typically just mark the card and wave the flags, which can be their biggest highlight of the day.
All clubs biggest priorities are teams on the ground and people having a great day, in a perfect world all of that would be done with 22 perfectly fit players, 7 league issued experienced umpires and an army of 50 volunteers.
Most days you make do with what you have. I for 1 would love to be able to get to games earlier and help out but life doesn't work that way for many.
Turbo your point isn't being ignored but when you take yet another swipe at Hadfield about poor leadership and then back pedal, you have to expect people to dismiss what you have to say with a pinch of salt.

 

[Turbos mail]

Parents should be putting their hands up, but it's not always that easy.
12 to 15 year olds make up regular league issued umpires, they have to start somewhere.
Field umpire normally makes the decision for goal, point, other, kid goal umpires typically just mark the card and wave the flags, which can be their biggest highlight of the day.
All clubs biggest priorities are teams on the ground and people having a great day, in a perfect world all of that would be done with 22 perfectly fit players, 7 league issued experienced umpires and an army of 50 volunteers.
Most days you make do with what you have. I for 1 would love to be able to get to games earlier and help out but life doesn't work that way for many.
Turbo your point isn't being ignored but when you take yet another swipe at Hadfield about poor leadership and then back pedal, you have to expect people to dismiss what you have to say with a pinch of salt.

I’m not back pedalling mate.

Goal umpires have to make decisions on goals and if ball out of bounds. Not just mark a scorecard

 

[Turbos mail]

When I was 14 ( a long time ago) I goal umpired my clubs thirds team every week.

You seriously are just looking for issues and see the bad in everything.

It must be a horrible way to live.

Mate thirds I understand as it’s social footy but I’ve seen things ignite before with this type of stuff. Surely the parents step up instead of sitting in cars as it’s to cold. Usually they have a roster if can’t get someone to do it regularly. It’s unacceptable sorry..

 

[callmecrazy]

Addam Maric played thirds on the weekend and kicked a lazy 11. Heard he is slowly building up and organising the side lines before he pulls the boots on in the seniors.

Maybe greenvale should take him back to play seniors

 

[get it done]

They are neutral league appointed umpires. FFS understand the discussion..

Go watch some junior games, some of the umpires officiate their own clubs, have friends at clubs they umpire, and if you dont think adults try to intimidate young umpires you are mad.
Plus ive seen adult goal umpires cheat for their own team.

 

[Turbos mail]

Go watch some junior games, some of the umpires officiate their own clubs, have friends at clubs they umpire, and if you dont think adults try to intimidate young umpires you are mad.
Plus ive seen adult goal umpires cheat for their own team.

Did you understand my post at all??

 

[stevesniff7]

Most start at Boundary road in Coburg North and then head up the Hume.

Spot on

 

[get it done]

Did you understand my post at all??

Do you understand your post?
You were inferring that a young kid doesn't have the capability to be a goal umpire, I simple pointed out that young kids are put in charge of games each week (by the EDFL) who are incapable. I have also seen grown adults abuse their positions as goal umpires so whether its a kid goal umpire, an adult, or a young edfl umpire there is always a risk. Or was your post (as someone else pointed out) to have a dig at Hadfield

 

[Turbos mail]

Do you understand your post?
You were inferring that a young kid doesn't have the capability to be a goal umpire, I simple pointed out that young kids are put in charge of games each week (by the EDFL) who are incapable. I have also seen grown adults abuse their positions as goal umpires so whether its a kid goal umpire, an adult, or a young edfl umpire there is always a risk. Or was your post (as someone else pointed out) to have a dig at Hadfield

FFS I know it’s div2 page and people don’t understand a lot of things.

Young EDFL umpires are neutral and doing it as a part of the progression path. If an Adult volunteer wants to cheat, that’s on him and a disgusting thing to do.

But putting out a young volunteer who could be biased, might listen to his friends playing and make an incorrect decision on peer group pressure is not right. And that will create other kids to ark up and then parents gets involved “ oh leave him alone is only young doing his best” and it has high potential to escalate quickly. Some clubs play that card yet they are actually the cause..
Why wouldn’t an adult parent do it is the big question?? It’s the leadership of that team that has to be questioned.

Let’s get better.. If anyone defends that and believes Adults are ok with sitting back on the fence, in cars etc and let a young kid ( who looks younger than the group playing) then you have NO idea and are the people who cause incidents in junior footy yet hide behind excuses all the time..

I’m finished on dealing with uneducated people who are purely only it for self interest and not in it for the sport itself…

 

[Gremlin77]

FFS I know it’s div2 page and people don’t understand a lot of things.

Young EDFL umpires are neutral and doing it as a part of the progression path. If an Adult volunteer wants to cheat, that’s on him and a disgusting thing to do.

But putting out a young volunteer who could be biased, might listen to his friends playing and make an incorrect decision on peer group pressure is not right. And that will create other kids to ark up and then parents gets involved “ oh leave him alone is only young doing his best” and it has high potential to escalate quickly. Some clubs play that card yet they are actually the cause..
Why wouldn’t an adult parent do it is the big question?? It’s the leadership of that team that has to be questioned.

Let’s get better.. If anyone defends that and believes Adults are ok with sitting back on the fence, in cars etc and let a young kid ( who looks younger than the group playing) then you have NO idea and are the people who cause incidents in junior footy yet hide behind excuses all the time..

I’m finished on dealing with uneducated people who are purely only it for self interest and not in it for the sport itself…

Turbo calling people uneducated, how’s the irony

 

[Turbos mail]

Turbo calling people uneducated, how’s the irony

You read the EDFL statement just put out by most clubs?

Cmon Grem, clubs like Haddy have done a lot to improve their football club on field and off field especially the senior department, and I applaud them, however only takes one thing/person to stuff things up and bring bad publicity back on a club like Haddy. Individuals who can totally wreck clubs..
Yes I’m sure they struggle for volunteer coaches etc but just don’t appoint someone for the sake of it.

 

[stevesniff7]

You read the EDFL statement just put out by most clubs?

Cmon Grem, clubs like Haddy have done a lot to improve their football club on field and off field especially the senior department, and I applaud them, however only takes one thing/person to stuff things up and bring bad publicity back on a club like Haddy. Individuals who can totally wreck clubs..
Yes I’m sure they struggle for volunteer coaches etc but just don’t appoint someone for the

FFS I know it’s div2 page and people don’t understand a lot of things.

Young EDFL umpires are neutral and doing it as a part of the progression path. If an Adult volunteer wants to cheat, that’s on him and a disgusting thing to do.

But putting out a young volunteer who could be biased, might listen to his friends playing and make an incorrect decision on peer group pressure is not right. And that will create other kids to ark up and then parents gets involved “ oh leave him alone is only young doing his best” and it has high potential to escalate quickly. Some clubs play that card yet they are actually the cause..
Why wouldn’t an adult parent do it is the big question?? It’s the leadership of that team that has to be questioned.

Let’s get better.. If anyone defends that and believes Adults are ok with sitting back on the fence, in cars etc and let a young kid ( who looks younger than the group playing) then you have NO idea and are the people who cause incidents in junior footy yet hide behind excuses all the time..

I’m finished on dealing with uneducated people who are purely only it for self interest and not in it for the sport itself…

Who hurt you turbo..

 

[MortlockWatcher]

 

[cacik]

Mate thirds I understand as it’s social footy but I’ve seen things ignite before with this type of stuff. Surely the parents step up instead of sitting in cars as it’s to cold. Usually they have a roster if can’t get someone to do it regularly. It’s unacceptable sorry..

turbo, sounds like you've just put your hand up to be the haddy goal umpire.
Youd stand there after 5 minutes and realise a young volunteer could do the same job

The Thirds comp at times can be the opposite of 'social' footy btw.

We just need people that can stop fires from igniting on the field.. it sounds like it's you, get your whites on brother. Show us the way.

 

[get it done]

FFS I know it’s div2 page and people don’t understand a lot of things.

Young EDFL umpires are neutral and doing it as a part of the progression path. If an Adult volunteer wants to cheat, that’s on him and a disgusting thing to do.

But putting out a young volunteer who could be biased, might listen to his friends playing and make an incorrect decision on peer group pressure is not right. And that will create other kids to ark up and then parents gets involved “ oh leave him alone is only young doing his best” and it has high potential to escalate quickly. Some clubs play that card yet they are actually the cause..
Why wouldn’t an adult parent do it is the big question?? It’s the leadership of that team that has to be questioned.

Let’s get better.. If anyone defends that and believes Adults are ok with sitting back on the fence, in cars etc and let a young kid ( who looks younger than the group playing) then you have NO idea and are the people who cause incidents in junior footy yet hide behind excuses all the time..

I’m finished on dealing with uneducated people who are purely only it for self interest and not in it for the sport itself…

I think you're focusing on the age of the person rather than the actual issue.

If the concern is that someone with a connection to a club might make biased decisions, then that concern applies equally to adults and juniors. Being over 18 doesn't suddenly make someone impartial. Every level of football has examples of adults making poor, emotional or biased decisions.

The EDFL itself trusts teenagers to officiate entire games as field umpires, often in situations where they may know players, coaches or clubs involved. If we're comfortable giving young people responsibility for controlling the whole match, it seems inconsistent to suggest a young goal umpire is automatically unsuitable because of their age.

More importantly, the biggest controversies and behavioural issues we've seen this season haven't been caused by junior officials. The EDFL was concerned enough about the conduct of adult officials, players and club personnel that it held meetings with presidents and senior club representatives to address those issues. That alone suggests the age of the official isn't the determining factor.

Everyone would agree that important roles should be filled by responsible and capable people. But responsibility isn't determined solely by age. There are excellent young officials and there are poor adult officials. The system should be about competency, training and accountability, not simply whether someone is 15 or 50.

And as for the suggestion that people in the Division 2 forum "have no idea", some of the issues that prompted league intervention this year came from Premier Division clubs. Poor behaviour and poor decision-making clearly aren't confined to any one division either

 

[Turbos mail]

I think you're focusing on the age of the person rather than the actual issue.

If the concern is that someone with a connection to a club might make biased decisions, then that concern applies equally to adults and juniors. Being over 18 doesn't suddenly make someone impartial. Every level of football has examples of adults making poor, emotional or biased decisions.

The EDFL itself trusts teenagers to officiate entire games as field umpires, often in situations where they may know players, coaches or clubs involved. If we're comfortable giving young people responsibility for controlling the whole match, it seems inconsistent to suggest a young goal umpire is automatically unsuitable because of their age.

More importantly, the biggest controversies and behavioural issues we've seen this season haven't been caused by junior officials. The EDFL was concerned enough about the conduct of adult officials, players and club personnel that it held meetings with presidents and senior club representatives to address those issues. That alone suggests the age of the official isn't the determining factor.

Everyone would agree that important roles should be filled by responsible and capable people. But responsibility isn't determined solely by age. There are excellent young officials and there are poor adult officials. The system should be about competency, training and accountability, not simply whether someone is 15 or 50.

And as for the suggestion that people in the Division 2 forum "have no idea", some of the issues that prompted league intervention this year came from Premier Division clubs. Poor behaviour and poor decision-making clearly aren't confined to any one division either

I said the could be easily influenced and with peer group pressure.
I know what happens it causes issues and then these clubs cry fowl and say oh we didn’t start it. It’s just stupid.
So my point is out of 20 sets of parents they can’t find a parent to do this job. That tells a very sad story!!

 

[stevesniff7]

I said the could be easily influenced and with peer group pressure.
I know what happens it causes issues and then these clubs cry fowl and say oh we didn’t start it. It’s just stupid.
So my point is out of 20 sets of parents they can’t find a parent to do this job. That tells a very sad story!!

you’d actually be the last person to put your hand up and volunteer but first to criticise someone else for not doing it. Give it a rest turbo no one else agrees with you

 

[Turbos mail]

you’d actually be the last person to put your hand up and volunteer but first to criticise someone else for not doing it. Give it a rest turbo no one else agrees with you

You’re an idiot. I’ve volunteered many times and even helped out a few times doing field umpire. More than you have ever done.

 

[stevesniff7]

You’re an idiot. I’ve volunteered many times and even helped out a few times doing field umpire. More than you have ever done.

Hahahaha yeah we don’t believe that at all! You’re to busy on here spitting rubbish constantly. Particularly about the clubs you don’t like, we all know what ones. I’m a life member at haddy and done my fair share. So clearly have done more than you moron

You’re an idiot. I’ve volunteered many times and even helped out a few times doing field umpire. More than you have ever done.

 

[PortVic]

Can’t believe I actually agree with Turbo here. Not ideal having a kid so young as a CLUB goal umpire. My son played in the next game, and the game in question was heated and close, it was 1st vs 2nd. Lucky there were barely any scores in the last quarter. There seemed to be enough Hadfield parents there to have one goal umpire. Kid could have ran water if he wanted to be involved. Let’s move on now. Stop playing the man.

 

[callmecrazy]

Can’t believe I actually agree with Turbo here. Not ideal having a kid so young as a CLUB goal umpire. My son played in the next game, and the game in question was heated and close, it was 1st vs 2nd. Lucky there were barely any scores in the last quarter. There seemed to be enough Hadfield parents there to have one goal umpire. Kid could have ran water if he wanted to be involved. Let’s move on now. Stop playing the man.

Good call! Respectfully points on both sides have been made. lets focus on the season and upcoming matches next week.