03-04

[scmods]

Originally posted by nicko18
IMO perth is heading the same way as bellerieve. im sure their crowds have dropped over previous years

That certainly explains why I couldn't even get in this year...

If you look at aggregate, Perth looks bad in recent years but that's because so many of our Tests have been three day affairs. NZ is the only one I can remember going the distance in the last decade.

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by scmods
That certainly explains why I couldn't even get in this year...

If you look at aggregate, Perth looks bad in recent years but that's because so many of our Tests have been three day affairs. NZ is the only one I can remember going the distance in the last decade.

i'm talking about day figures, not test aggregates. and i said that perth crowds were better than i thought (if you call 12,000 good). the reason you couldnt get in was not because the ground was jam packed, there were problems with the gates.

 

[Yianni]

'3' refers to the new 3G mobile phone network that has just been rolled out.

Like Lethal said, all the video stuff will be on the 3G network. Orange is still around, they are owned by Hutchison Telecoms, of whom 3 is a brand.

 

[Chiz]

Hobart has bad numbers, so they shouldn't get a test.
I don't see why Sydney should get 2 tests ahead of Melbourne though - Melbournes numbers have always been better. Sydney only get sellouts because they hardly have any seats to fill.

 

[GoEagles]

Originally posted by nicko18

as for perth having similar crowds, IMO perth is heading the same way as bellerieve. im sure their crowds have dropped over previous years and if the perth public do not get behind test cricket then they don't deserve to have that test in preference to sydney or melbourne. having said that Perth's crowds are nowhere near as pitterful as Hobart's.

The last Ashes test in Perth was a total sell-out for the 3 days the test was played for. The year before that they sold out the first 2 days play dispute many patrons missing Glen McGraths hat-trick because of ticketing problems at the Barry Shephard gates.

 

[scmods]

Originally posted by nicko18
i'm talking about day figures, not test aggregates. and i said that perth crowds were better than i thought (if you call 12,000 good). the reason you couldnt get in was not because the ground was jam packed, there were problems with the gates.

I couldn't get in because I didn't pre-buy a ticket. Had I done that I would have got in eventually.

And 12,000 isn't a bad crowd for a place the size of Perth.

The thing I can't work out is what they did with the ground renovations last year. They removed seated areas, returning them to the old grass banks, and made the playing area slightly smaller. Somehow, this reduced the ground capacity from 30,000+ to about 20,000. How does that work?

 

[Mr Q]

Originally posted by nicko18
as for perth having similar crowds, IMO perth is heading the same way as bellerieve. im sure their crowds have dropped over previous years and if the perth public do not get behind test cricket then they don't deserve to have that test in preference to sydney or melbourne. having said that Perth's crowds are nowhere near as pitterful as Hobart's.

Send us one of the interesting test matches, and we turn out in force in Perth (ie the Ashes). Most years we get whatever rump test match Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide don't want. Play Zimbabwe in Melbourne on Boxing Day and you'll probably find the numbers are half the normal as well.

And put it back to November at least. A test in the first half of October is hardly waiting for the cricket season to get going - that certainly won't help the crowds either who'll half still be in football mode.

Originally posted by nicko18
i said it about 5 years ago there will be a time where a five test series is played at brisbane, adelaide, melbourne, sydney, and the 5th one alternates between either melbourne or sydney. a 6 test series could see melbourne and sydney host 2 tests. the compromise could be to move one day games to the smaller cities, who seem to be into their pyjama cricket moreso.

Perth is nearly 400,000 people larger population wise than Adelaide and nearly comparable to Brisbane. Hardly a "smaller" city. Inertia has kept the good games going to Adelaide rather than Perth and Brisbane.

Originally posted by nicko18
another alternative would be to rotate the 5th or 6th test between Darwin, Perth, Canberra and Hobart.

Yeah, that's a really good suggestion.....

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by Mr Q

Yeah, that's a really good suggestion.....

as opposed to sticking with sub 3000 crowds in hobart?? i would think so.

 

[Mr Q]

Originally posted by nicko18
as opposed to sticking with sub 3000 crowds in hobart?? i would think so.

Go and read my post - it never mentioned Hobart.... I'm talking about your advocating removal of Test Cricket from Perth.

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by Mr Q
Go and read my post - it never mentioned Hobart.... I'm talking about your advocating removal of Test Cricket from Perth.

FOR THE RECORD: about face!! perth should hold test matches. there was a period in the late 90's where i initially developed my impression that perth wasnt interested in tests. thankfully theyve turned up in recent years

 

[Still Crowing]

Originally posted by Mr Q
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Perth is nearly 400,000 people larger population wise than Adelaide and nearly comparable to Brisbane. Hardly a "smaller" city. Inertia has kept the good games going to Adelaide rather than Perth and Brisbane.

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Adelaide people, after having their Australia Day test taken away (apparently, tradition only counts if it's Boxing or New Years Day), have responded brilliantly in the last 3 years with great crowds in an attempt to ensure the ACB doesn't have an excuse to screw us again. One of the reasons the redevelopment of the Adelaide Oval is going ahead is to try to head off at the pass the attempts by Brisbane to acquire more games at the 'gabba. One cannot rely on commentators overusing the word 'picturesque' to ensure we keep a minimum of 1 test match and 2 ODI's.

Cheers,

Kasey

 

[clucas91]

The Gabba is a very underrated venue, we should get more up here than we do, our 1 test is fine, but wouldn't mind at least one more LOI, nice to see the 3rd final (which is rarely required) here though.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by clucas91
The Gabba is a very underrated venue, we should get more up here than we do, our 1 test is fine, but wouldn't mind at least one more LOI, nice to see the 3rd final (which is rarely required) here though.

The Gabba gets as many ODIs as any venue this season.

 

[Mr Q]

Originally posted by DaveW
The Gabba gets as many ODIs as any venue this season.

Sydney and Melbourne get three each (2 in the normal series + 1 final each). Brisbane gets two and only a third if the third final is required.