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Player Watch #1: Nick Vlastuin

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Here's hoping Nick Vlastuin gets through this season without another concussion.

 

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When he ran straight into Danger's elbow with his chin...I wondered why he didn't raise his own elbow for protection...as you would!
Lucky he didn’t hurt dangerflogs elbow
 
Lucky he didn’t hurt dangerflogs elbow

I still reckpn there were 2 motions. But Danger is protected. If he was a normal player it'd be a few weeks cause he knocked a man out. Anyway, that Danger eneded up basically i the 'he played?' category is stupendous and makes me so happy. Especially Dusty's last goal which made Dangerfield look more like Superfilop.

And Vlas' loss in teh GF screwed us for at least a quarter. Major major impact on the team. reckon we would have steamrollered them if he'd stayed on fit.
 
I actually forgot until this thread refreshed me that he was knocked out early.
Man, we did well to win that game. Vlastuin out and we were trailing by a decent amount, that was a huge fightback.
I still feel for Nick that he probably doesn't even remember a lot of the night.
 
I actually forgot until this thread refreshed me that he was knocked out early.
Man, we did well to win that game. Vlastuin out and we were trailing by a decent amount, that was a huge fightback.
I still feel for Nick that he probably doesn't even remember a lot of the night.
Yeah not much was made of it in the media. Imagine if Vlas had knocked Dangerflog out like that. Whately and the Geelol flogs would still be whinging about it.
 
Yeah not much was made of it in the media. Imagine if Vlas had knocked Dangerflog out like that. Whately and the Geelol flogs would still be whinging about it.
I don't blame Danger, might possibly feel differently if we lost, but I don't believe there was genuine malice in his action. Once he punches the ball there's less than a split second before Vlas comes in and he's within rights to protect himself.

The greatest KO of the night was when Dusty destroys Danger in the last for one of the goals of the year.
 
I still don't know about the Dangerfield KO. I don't think he was targetting Vlastuin, but equally I can't recall ever seeing a 'backhand' punch of the ball like that - it's not the normal action of tapping it to a teammate. It looks like he was protecting himself from the collision before the ball (and Vlastuin) got to him, which put him in an awkward position. Instead of 'protecting himself' he was fending off, rather than going for the ball.

But usual Grand final tribunal rules apply (basically anything goes). You can guarantee if some poor no-name does the same thing in Round 1, he'll get weeks - and plenty.
 
I still reckpn there were 2 motions. But Danger is protected. If he was a normal player it'd be a few weeks cause he knocked a man out. Anyway, that Danger eneded up basically i the 'he played?' category is stupendous and makes me so happy. Especially Dusty's last goal which made Dangerfield look more like Superfilop.

And Vlas' loss in teh GF screwed us for at least a quarter. Major major impact on the team. reckon we would have steamrollered them if he'd stayed on fit.

agree, Lynch got reported for far less , that wasnt even looked at by the MRO
 
was there on the night, watching the replay afterwards BT and his mates were more concerned for garrys shoulder, and later on when the scats guy was knocked out they were all concerned with his welfare, bunch of conceited arseholes
 

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I actually forgot until this thread refreshed me that he was knocked out early.
Man, we did well to win that game. Vlastuin out and we were trailing by a decent amount, that was a huge fightback.
I still feel for Nick that he probably doesn't even remember a lot of the night.

Houli was ****ed early as well.
 
But Danger is protected. If he was a normal player it'd be a few weeks cause he knocked a man out.

Agree. And even if you made the argument that it was "unintentional" and not reportable, I still don't understand how a raised arm/elbow to the head didn't even warrant a free kick for Nick.
 

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How many weeks did Dusty get for elbowing the gws pest that played out the game and had no injury. Low impact hit but high. Have a week off dusty.

Danger knocks vlas out with his chicken wing. Play on.

Ridiculous.
I’ll play devil’s advocate
Dusty’s hit was behind play where Dangers was during a passage of play

Game would be a lot better if we didn’t call for some one to be suspended every time someone took a big hit even if it’s our boys on the other end
 
I’ll play devil’s advocate
Dusty’s hit was behind play where Dangers was during a passage of play

Game would be a lot better if we didn’t call for some one to be suspended every time someone took a big hit even if it’s our boys on the other end

totally true. But consistency would be nice. Someone else does it, free and penalty. Danger does it, nothing to see here no penalty.
 
I still reckpn there were 2 motions. But Danger is protected. If he was a normal player it'd be a few weeks cause he knocked a man out. Anyway, that Danger eneded up basically i the 'he played?' category is stupendous and makes me so happy. Especially Dusty's last goal which made Dangerfield look more like Superfilop.

And Vlas' loss in teh GF screwed us for at least a quarter. Major major impact on the team. reckon we would have steamrollered them if he'd stayed on fit.

spot on, it was two actions. Split second decision to make contact wth his head.
anyome who has played sport at high level would know this if they looked carefully at the footage.
 
spot on, it was two actions. Split second decision to make contact wth his head.
anyome who has played sport at high level would know this if they looked carefully at the footage.
Maybe watch the footage again in real time instead of the ultra slow mo

The bloke must have super human reflexes to make that judgment call than act on it in a fraction of a second
 
Maybe watch the footage again in real time instead of the ultra slow mo

The bloke must have super human reflexes to make that judgment call than act on it in a fraction of a second

Nobody else moved his knee and elbow into the positions they were in, they were the result of actions controlled by Dangerfield alone. You are just simply not allowed to protect yourself by raising an elbow and knee in a ground ball contest like that. This has never been allowed in our game.

If that had been the other way around and Vlastuin knocked Dangerfield out there would still be endless discussions about red cards in Grand Finals etc.

The way this was waved through was laughable. At the very least the Tribunal should be examining that forensically.
 
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(from the HeraldSun)

David King says Nick Vlastuin is the only Tiger who can fill the void left by the injured Alex Rance
March 27, 2019

It is universally agreed that an injured Rance cannot be replaced and that the “system” is the sole reason Richmond can still win the 2019 premiership.

But the problem is that the “Richmond system” became what it is because of Rance.

ROUND 2 TEAMS: WHO COMES IN FOR RANCE?

RANCE DOWN: CAN TIGERS STILL WIN FLAG?

The superstar defender has won the football back for the Tigers on average 200 times a season over the past five years — this is 180 intercepts more than the AFL’s second-best rated player. A large portion of those intercepts happen when Rance is assisting one of his fellow back six defenders.

In my opinion there’s only one man at Tigerland who can bridge this intercepting gulf and that man is Nick Vlastuin.

Put simply, Vlastuin must become Luke Hodge in his prime if Richmond is to win this year’s flag.

Vlastuin possesses Hodge-like courage and composure, and has all the tools to become Richmond’s elite interceptor.
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With Alex Rance out, Nick Vlastuin has become more important to the Tigers than ever. Picture: Michael Klein
Dylan Grimes and David Astbury are tremendous defenders but more classically suited to one-on-one contests.

Vlastuin’s point of difference is his speed to cover the ground, giving him the capability to assist fellow defenders more often.

The Tigers rely on an aggressive forward-half press to score which runs the risk of getting exposed out the back by an opponent’s counter punch.

The Tigers recent successful period is based on the bedrock of scoring from forward-half intercepts at a greater rate than any other team — about six goals a game over the past two football seasons.

But is this level of forward-half aggression (and reward) still sustainable without Rance?

The basic mechanics of Richmond’s defensive method is about each defender controlling the oppositions’ leading lanes.
They do this by positioning themselves in front of their opposing forward, denying an easy lead/mark opportunity.

They’re always at a consistent distance from each other, almost top and tailing each opposition forward.

Some clubs refer to this method as a “one-and-a-half defence”, which is where one defender can influence multiple contests from this starting point.

It’s a game of cat and mouse but on a larger scale.

The danger is that when the “one-and-a-half defence” fails, the opposition can then play leapfrog and stroll into goal.

Rance’s “one-and-a-half defence” separation or space that he allows his opponent is greater than most.

But his speed to close in on other contests is quicker than most and he is without peer in his ability to get back to his direct opponent when he’s guessed incorrectly.

The challenge of orchestrating a defensive unit that can forge forward without Rance falls on the shoulders of the Tigers defensive coach Justin Leppitsch.

Leppitsch’s reputation as the “key-defenders whisperer” will be an ongoing watch throughout the year.

Rance learnt the lion’s share of his defensive craft under the tutelage of Leppitsch during his first stint at Tigerland.
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Alex Rance is likely to miss the entirety of 2019. Picture: Michael Klein
Noah Balta and Ryan Garthwaite will undergo a similar education process but given their lack of experience and genuine know-how it would be a stretch to expect immediate impact let alone excellence.

Can Richmond continue its aggression from clearances given the Alex Rance safety net is no longer there?

Do they need to alter their method to cope?

It may just be suck-and-see for the next three to four weeks. If it doesn’t work, tinkering or wholesale change is required.

Since the start of 2017 the Tigers have lost the clearance battle by an average of three clearances a game, which is the AFL’s worst return.

Their midfield still creates a positive clearance scoring profile, one that has outscored their opposition by an average four points, rating sixth in the AFL.

Damien Hardwick and his coaching crew clearly have assessments to make over the next month or so and time will tell as to the enormity of change required, if any.

Rance cannot be replaced.

The significance of replacing him cannot be underestimated but Richmond’s team defence needs a focal point interceptor to become a standout elite contributor.

If Vlastuin cannot become a Luke Hodge-esque figure, then Richmond won’t be winning this year’s Cup.

Richmond will still win loads of home-and-away matches but at the pointy end of the season all flaws are identified and exposed.

Tonight, Mason Cox or the Magpie clearance game just may highlight the chasm between Richmond with Rance versus Richmond without Rance.

Number one in 2020 for intercepts... Floss

Big Liam Baker 6th
 

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