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Opinion 13 Premierships Shared Between Just 4 Teams in the Last 17 years
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Shane Heard
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Hawks got super lucky with draft picks …Swans got handed a golden ticket of concessions and handouts …Geelong are just a good club with a superb culture and no one ever leaves ..except lil Gaz*
Free agency does not help as despite what the AFL said would happen about bad clubs making godfather offers to the best players and getting them what we have actually had is players like Lynch, Frawley, Lake, Cameron and a host of others go from bad clubs to the best clubs, making the bad clubs worse and the best clubs even better.
hawkman
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Geelong got super lucky with Father Sons
Shane Heard
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Your super luckiness draft picks just pips Geelongs fs stuff
Along with good trading with Lake and a bunch of others I can’t be bothered looking up
But how about the development of some of those others guns like Bartel, Enright, Chapman, Johnson, Milburn, Ling, Kelly, Corey and many others
Not to mention we lost arguably the greatest midfielder of all time smack bang during his prime and could have won another couple of flags had he remained throughout 2011-2017.
COLA.
Sydney Swans academy.
Shane Heard
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The AFL orchestrated the Franklin move to help Swans and covered up his substance abuse problems and car crashes.
I think you got a good deal on that front.
Shane Heard
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Well that’s interesting..
But your club benefited big time while it was around did they not?
lol, yeh good on the AFL for setting an example all the while Buddy would tear the competition a new one for a 5-6 year span all the while single-handedly taking Sydney to multiple grand finals.
DanielLaneDC
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Put another way: "in the last 17 years" brings us back through to 2007 when there were 16 teams, 17 from 2011 and 18 from 2012, so an average of 17.5 teams - and in that time 8 different teams have won premierships. This equates to about 46% of the competition have won premierships in that timeframe.
I think the question behind the question though is around what constitutes the expected turnaround for a premiership for any given side. For about 50% of the competition to have won in about as many years as there are teams is not too bad for parity I would've thought.
There's something neat to this: In about as many years are there are teams, about half the competition have won one, and about half of those winners have won multiple. So there's a top 4, a 5-8 and a bottom 8.
I think the question behind the question though is around what constitutes the expected turnaround for a premiership for any given side. For about 50% of the competition to have won in about as many years as there are teams is not too bad for parity I would've thought.
There's something neat to this: In about as many years are there are teams, about half the competition have won one, and about half of those winners have won multiple. So there's a top 4, a 5-8 and a bottom 8.
hawkman
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No doubt Geelong developed their team well just like any other club that has been dominant over a period. However they also got incredibly lucky with FS selections, getting a Geelong team of the century forward and defender as well one of the best players of all time all for a few 3rd round picksBut how about the development of some of those others guns like Bartel, Enright, Chapman, Johnson, Milburn, Ling, Kelly, Corey and many others
Not to mention we lost arguably the greatest midfielder of all time smack bang during his prime and could have won another couple of flags had he remained throughout 2011-2019.
COLA.
Sydney Swans academy.
I wasn't going to cop from that post that we just got lucky with draft picks while Geelong were just built on a superb culture
Not really. It is when the Victorian clubs started dominating. Since 2007 non-Victorian clubs have only won 2 premierships, both winning them in the dying seconds so it could have very easily been no premierships.
Caligo
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I see you ignored the biggest free agent of them all, because he didn't fit your narrative?
Ablett would have gone pick 20ish as he was not a standout in junior footy. Certainly displayed enough brilliance to warrant a first round or early second round selection but people carry on as though he was a top 3 or 5 pick in the making.
You really want to know what turned our fate around, while Scarlett was an absolute rock in defense, we were a middle of the road side while he was making All Australian teams. It wasn't until the signing of Brad Ottens did all the pieces fall into place. For years, Steven King was injury-prone and Mooney had to play as the backup ruckman.
Bringing in Ottens for two picks in the teens (giving away Moloney who was rated at the time) was one of the best trades of the modern era.
Starting the year the AFL conducted an enquiry as to the dominance of interstate sides over a 7 year period.
Shane Heard
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Whisper in the Wind
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All things being equal, each team should win 1 flag in 18 years.
In the last 36 years, 10 teams have won two or more.
Four teams have won 1 (CARL / MELB / PORT* /WBD)
Four teams have won zero (STK / FRE* / GWS* / GCS*)
STK have played in three Grand Finals.
FRE & GWS have played in one.
*Have not been in the league for 36 years.
BOLD Played finals this year.
In the last 36 years, 10 teams have won two or more.
Four teams have won 1 (CARL / MELB / PORT* /WBD)
Four teams have won zero (STK / FRE* / GWS* / GCS*)
STK have played in three Grand Finals.
FRE & GWS have played in one.
*Have not been in the league for 36 years.
BOLD Played finals this year.
Shane Heard
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Bomber gives a great insight into the Ottens era in this long interview from the other week.
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