2004 Trade/draft period.

[Eggzoi]

Was just looking over things from the 04 draft and thought to myself, have we ever basically rebuilt a midfield before in one go? Thompson, VB and Knighta are all going to be great for the next 10 years and with M&M&G we're just about guaranteed 2 very good rucks.
That's a fair effort but have we ever done better?

 

[- PC -]

But James was useless apparently

Good pick up Eggz

 

[Crow Envy]

But James was useless apparently

Good pick up Eggz

Was that the same draft we ignored Pearce?

 

[- PC -]

Was that the same draft we ignored Pearce?

Everyone ignored him .. rookie listed

 

[Crow Envy]

Everyone ignored him .. rookie listed

Exactly, we didnt even take a punt on him in the rookie draft

 

[- PC -]

Exactly, we didnt even take a punt on him in the rookie draft

So blame 15 other Recruiting Officers as well...

 

[Mong]

We got Hinge in the Rookie Draft of that year too. Ok, he's got a lot to prove yet but he's still on our list and shows some signs he might make it.

 

[Cap]

Exactly, we didnt even take a punt on him in the rookie draft

so ? no one took a shot with Rutten, Mattner or Bock ?

i have when pesky supporters crap on about 1 player that wasn't picked up against a large number who were

seriously you can't pick up every good player/ smokey in the draft

 

[CarnCrows]

seriously you can't pick up every good player/ smokey in the draft

Spot on. Passing on players that turn out to be stars is not solely an Adelaide issue. It really gives me the ####'s especially things like the Pav debate. EVERY TEAM ignored him. EVERY TEAM ignored Pearce. EVERY TEAM ignored EVERY OTHER ROOKIE.

 

[RoosterLad]

Agree with everything in here. We missed some good players but also picked up good players which other clubs missed. No point having a cry over it.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

So can I say that Port's recruiting is crap because they didn't pick Rutten, Hentschel, Knights, Johncock etc

 

[Crow Envy]

You guys are so defensive. Pearce was a standout in the draft camp. He is also a local boy so we should have had the inside knowledge on him. Our team was/is yearning for some pace and we had a player staring at us in the face.

And not every club passed on him because Port picked him up. And my pet peave is hiding behind "well no other club picked him up". I dont give a stuff what another club did or didnt do, I am only concerned that we didnt.

It is ok to admit the club do stuff up once and awhile, it doesnt mean your not a supporter. Im sure even people at the club would admit we got that one wrong.

 

[- PC -]

It is ok to admit the club do stuff up once and awhile, it doesnt mean your not a supporter. Im sure even people at the club would admit we got that one wrong.

Ok lets backtrack to the 2 original posts

This board has had its fair share of James Fantasia detractors and I was responding to that memory, I think overall James did an ok job. Some bad decisions, some good , some bloody fantastic ones. Also noting the Coaches had the final say a lot of times. James puts names up, coach picks Angwin

Yes James got it wrong at times, but my 3rd point stands...so do all the other 15 clubs

 

[James23]

i think its more of an issue with pearce cos he was right under our noses attending our 'rookie camp' and didnt pick up on his talent there

 

[Southerntakeover]

You guys are so defensive. Pearce was a standout in the draft camp. He is also a local boy so we should have had the inside knowledge on him. Our team was/is yearning for some pace and we had a player staring at us in the face.

And not every club passed on him because Port picked him up. And my pet peave is hiding behind "well no other club picked him up". I dont give a stuff what another club did or didnt do, I am only concerned that we didnt.

It is ok to admit the club do stuff up once and awhile, it doesnt mean your not a supporter. Im sure even people at the club would admit we got that one wrong.

We might have overlooked him, but its foolish to start blaming the club for every gun player we dont get, especially when every other club also apparently had doubts about him.

Port DID pass on him, they picked him up as a Rookie. If theyd rated him so much, they would have taken him early in the real draft, rather than as an afterthought.

 

[- PC -]

i think its more of an issue with pearce cos he was right under our noses attending our 'rookie camp' and didnt pick up on his talent there

Matt Priddis Board

 

[Cap]

You guys are so defensive. Pearce was a standout in the draft camp. He is also a local boy so we should have had the inside knowledge on him. Our team was/is yearning for some pace and we had a player staring at us in the face.

And not every club passed on him because Port picked him up. And my pet peave is hiding behind "well no other club picked him up". I dont give a stuff what another club did or didnt do, I am only concerned that we didnt.

It is ok to admit the club do stuff up once and awhile, it doesnt mean your not a supporter. Im sure even people at the club would admit we got that one wrong.

no one is argueing that - but FFS why do we always have to bring up the ones we overlooked ? why do people like you need to remind the rest of us what we already know and have been over 100 times, its the same as the 6 billion threads on Pavlich - yes we know he could have come here but he didn't.

no offence but is your type of person is the one that sits at the football and complains about everything and avoid any discussion on the positive points, there is understanding clubs make mistakes and lingering on things that are in the past.

get the **** over it

 

[Crow Envy]

no one is argueing that - but FFS why do we always have to bring up the ones we overlooked ? why do people like you need to remind the rest of us what we already know and have been over 100 times, its the same as the 6 billion threads on Pavlich - yes we know he could have come here but he didn't.

no offence but is your type of person is the one that sits at the football and complains about everything and avoid any discussion on the positive points, there is understanding clubs make mistakes and lingering on things that are in the past.

get the **** over it

No offence but you dont know jack shit about me

 

[Cap]

no one is argueing that - but FFS why do we always have to bring up the ones we overlooked ? why do people like you need to remind the rest of us what we already know and have been over 100 times, its the same as the 6 billion threads on Pavlich - yes we know he could have come here but he didn't.

no offence but is your type of person is the one that sits at the football and complains about everything and avoid any discussion on the positive points, there is understanding clubs make mistakes and lingering on things that are in the past.

get the **** over it

No offence but you dont know jack shit about me

thats right - hence the people "like" you part

i can only draw from what i read

 

[Stiffy_18]

You guys are so defensive. Pearce was a standout in the draft camp. He is also a local boy so we should have had the inside knowledge on him. Our team was/is yearning for some pace and we had a player staring at us in the face.

And not every club passed on him because Port picked him up. And my pet peave is hiding behind "well no other club picked him up". I dont give a stuff what another club did or didnt do, I am only concerned that we didnt.

It is ok to admit the club do stuff up once and awhile, it doesnt mean your not a supporter. Im sure even people at the club would admit we got that one wrong.

He was a standout at the draft camp but what exactly does that tell you about his football ability?!

Sure we stuffed that up but FFS he got overlooked in the National Draft by every other club. Even in the rookie draft he was the last pick in the first round. So in other words, 16 clubs overlooked him at least 3 times and he was overlooked by 15 clubs at least 4 times.

He will not be the first one or the last one to slip through the cracks. I think overall we have done a sensational job in 2004 draft. Only Gibson is not on the list anymore and even he was a good punt at the time.

We pretty much rebuilt our midfield and rucks in one draft. That is a FANTASTIC achievement by anyone's standards.

And for the record, Rutten was 4th round pick in the rookie draft. You win some, you lose some. No use crying over spilt milk but anyone who can knock the club's work in this draft really has no ****ing idea just how difficult it is to pull of that sort of effort in one year.

 

[ams4crows]

Rutten absolute Gun!! can we please focus on the great ones we have picked up instead of the ones we missed!

 

[CrowHop]

He was a standout at the draft camp but what exactly does that tell you about his football ability?!

Sure we stuffed that up but FFS he got overlooked in the National Draft by every other club. Even in the rookie draft he was the last pick in the first round. So in other words, 16 clubs overlooked him at least 3 times and he was overlooked by 15 clubs at least 4 times.

He will not be the first one or the last one to slip through the cracks. I think overall we have done a sensational job in 2004 draft. Only Gibson is not on the list anymore and even he was a good punt at the time.

We pretty much rebuilt our midfield and rucks in one draft. That is a FANTASTIC achievement by anyone's standards.

And for the record, Rutten was 4th round pick in the rookie draft. You win some, you lose some. No use crying over spilt milk but anyone who can knock the club's work in this draft really has no ****ing idea just how difficult it is to pull of that sort of effort in one year.

Quality post. It was a great draft for us, and people are still complaining we didnt pick up Pearce !

 

[Stiffy_18]

Quality post. It was a great draft for us, and people are still complaining we didnt pick up Pearce !

And then when you consider that we also got Hinge AND Griffin in the rookie draft that year, well.... its just a bloody BRILLIANT effort by the club.

 

[betterthanu]

.................................Picks Still Active Games Ave Games(Since Drafted)
National .......................34 .........20 .......753........... 22.1

National 1st Round.......... 7 ..........6 .........88 ...........12.6

National 2nd Round.......... 5 ..........3 .........46............ 9.2

National 3rd Round........... 7......... 4........ 163 ...........23.3

National 4th Round+ ........15......... 7........ 456.......... 30.4

Pre-Season.................... 6........... 2.........199......... 33.2

Rookie.......................... 31......... 11........ 407......... 13.1

Total............................ 71........ 33........ 1359 .........19.1


amazing that we've done better in the later rounds in regards to games played than early. **** you angwin and watts.

2nd rounds been a black hole for us. C'mon Tippett.

 

[Stiffy_18]

.................................Picks Still Active Games Ave Games(Since Drafted)
National .......................34 .........20 .......753........... 22.1

National 1st Round.......... 7 ..........6 .........88 ...........12.6

National 2nd Round.......... 5 ..........3 .........46............ 9.2

National 3rd Round........... 7......... 4........ 163 ...........23.3

National 4th Round+ ........15......... 7........ 456.......... 30.4

Pre-Season.................... 6........... 2.........199......... 33.2

Rookie.......................... 31......... 11........ 407......... 13.1

Total............................ 71........ 33........ 1359 .........19.1


amazing that we've done better in the later rounds in regards to games played than early. **** you angwin and watts.

2nd rounds been a black hole for us. C'mon Tippett.

vB was a 2nd rounder