2006 Draft ....... profiles

[TheMightyDons2]

LH15, in your opinion what are the differences between Hansen and McKenzie. It seems from your write up that they are incredibly similar players, so why do most people have Hansen in the top 3 and McKenzie in the teens? Who do you prefer and why?

I guess I'm interested in this because this is the type of player (along with Hansen) that Essendon really need and could heavily influence who they pick with #2. I.e if they feel McKenzie will around at 18, they could go for Gibbs/Selwood at 2. Any chance of him lasting that long?

 

[LukeHodge15]

LH15, in your opinion what are the differences between Hansen and McKenzie. It seems from your write up that they are incredibly similar players, so why do most people have Hansen in the top 3 and McKenzie in the teens? Who do you prefer and why?

I guess I'm interested in this because this is the type of player (along with Hansen) that Essendon really need and could heavily influence who they pick with #2. I.e if they feel McKenzie will around at 18, they could go for Gibbs/Selwood at 2. Any chance of him lasting that long?

Always a chance that McKenzie could slide, being defenders generally do but i severely doubt it.

Both pretty similar in the speed department
Both read the play exceptionally well
Both have big motors
Both players natuarl positions are at CHB .. imo
Hansens kicking i have ?? marks on, McKenzie kicking better
Hansen a better contested mark than Mckenzie

Some people think Hansen could still go forward and have a career, i have big doubts on that myself. Thus maybe why Hansen rated higher than McKenzie.

 

[divvydan]

LH15, great write-ups, enjoying reading them.
With regards McKenzie, his beep test result of 14.7 at the WA screening is certainly impressive for his size. Does this make much of a difference to where or how he will play in the future?

Link to WA Screening thread:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277496

 

[LukeHodge15]

RYAN ANDERSON

CLUB - Northern Knights - Marcellin College

HEIGHT - 175 cm - 5ft 9 in

WEIGHT - 72 kilos

SPEED - 20 m - 2.9 approx = Very Quick

AFL LIKE - ???

CHAMPIONSHIP POSITION - BP - HBF - Rover

AFL POSITION

- Rover - To short really for a HBF - HFF. Maybe BP but his size will be a real worry for recruiters.

KICK

- Right - 8/10 - 45-50 - Good technique and Good penetration with his preferred foot
- Left - 5/10 - Adequate with being anything to write home about

HANDBALL

- Average - Nothing bad but nothing to write home about here

POSITIVES

- Awesome pace means recruiters have to look at him.

- Massive drive from down back at the champs, Outstanding Carnival.

- Reads the footy and whats happening around him exceptionally well.

- Handballs or kicks to first option and takes off to provide an option upfield for him teammates. Can be very damaging player and can provide good hurt factor to opposition teams that dont man him up.

- Massive numbers racked up at under 18 level, but that clearly doesnt translate to taking the next step into AFL ranks. Many many kids can testify to that.

- Great closing speed, chased down many opponents with sheer pace at the champs.


NEGATIVES

- AFL Position, where does he fit in. To short for a HBF role, maybe back pocket........ but could still see sides trying to exploit his lack of size by manning him up and leaving him 1 out with a tall quick marking option. In reality his only real likely position is as a rover at AFL level. ( be it a very quick one at that ) To make it at AFL level at rover u need to be one class unit.

- 72 Kilos, can he put on enough weight to stop him getting pushed off the ball at AFL level. Hawthorn learnt the hard way by drafting short people a fews back, Ries-B.Johnson-Greene-Miller-Clarke etc (Mummys boys article)........ they get pushed off the ball to easy and lose 2 many conetested ball situations. U only have to look at the last couple of years of drafting by the Hawks to see a significant change in agenda.

186cm Lewis
187cm Ellis
192cm Birchall
189cm Muston
188cm Tuck
191cm Kennedy

- At 175cm and under, players need to be extra special at something to get the call draft day, or its off to the rookie draft where they have to prove themselves at Reserve level. At least he brings some exciting speed to the table and some good diposal. Was a big fan of Danny Nicholls last year and he slipped to late 1st round in the rookie draft.

DRAFT POSITION

Pick 40-Rookie Draft

 

[thenextbigthing1999]

great job on mackenzie can u do one on ben reid for me plz mate these are great

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Both pretty similar in the speed department

Hansen's pace is better over the first 5-10m, which is arguably more important.

Both read the play exceptionally well

Agree, but Hansen does it better - Has a better idea of when to run off his man.

Both have big motors

Again, agree, but Hansen's appears to be bigger.

Both players natuarl positions are at CHB .. imo

True, but irrelevant to quality.

Hansens kicking i have ?? marks on, McKenzie kicking better

I disagree. McKenzie's kicking might be longer at this stage, but Hansen's skills are very neat, and he's not prone to many kicking errors.

Hansen a better contested mark than Mckenzie

By a considerable margin - Hansen and Gumbleton are the two best sets of hands in the draft by a fair way.

Some people think Hansen could still go forward and have a career, i have big doubts on that myself. Thus maybe why Hansen rated higher than McKenzie.

Hansen isn't likely to make a career purely as a forward, but he will always be the kind of backman that can move forward and net 2-3 goals in a quarter to swing a game.

Not trying to pick your opinions apart, but I'm just trying to point out why Hansen is rated considerably higher than McKenzie - There is a big gap in ability.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Hansen's pace is better over the first 5-10m, which is arguably more important.

AGREE

Agree, but Hansen does it better - Has a better idea of when to run off his man.

HANSEN AN EXCEPTIONAL READER OF THE FOOTBALL FIELD, AGREE

Again, agree, but Hansen's appears to be bigger.

DISAGREE, MCKENZIE RAN A 14.5 + BEEP TEST AT STATE SCREENING

True, but irrelevant to quality.

THEY BOTH WITH FORGE CAREERS AT CHB IMO

I disagree. McKenzie's kicking might be longer at this stage, but Hansen's skills are very neat, and he's not prone to many kicking errors.

DISAGREE, HANSEN KICKING HAS ??? MARKS, MCKENZIE A MUCH MORE RELIABLE KICK.

By a considerable margin - Hansen and Gumbleton are the two best sets of hands in the draft by a fair way.

DISAGREE, U MISSING PROBABLY THE BEST CONTESTED MARK IN THE WHOLE DRAFT

Hansen isn't likely to make a career purely as a forward, but he will always be the kind of backman that can move forward and net 2-3 goals in a quarter to swing a game.

MAYBE

Not trying to pick your opinions apart, but I'm just trying to point out why Hansen is rated considerably higher than McKenzie - There is a big gap in ability

DISAGREE .

And thus we have the enjoyment of having our own opinions.

If everyone was the same what a boring place we would live in.

 

[Lingsface]

ERIC MCKENZIE

SPEED - 20 metres - approx 3.09 = Average
Does run this better pre season I think ran close to under 3

AFL LIKE

Hard to compare has the athletic ability of a Franklin type but plays like a solid backmen tough and runs straight and hard, maybe and athletic leppitsch.

KICK

- 8/10 Right ..... Good sound technique and long
- 6/10 Left.......Gets the job done, above average

And a very long kick as well


POSITIVES

- Injurys - havent got any knowledge of a previous history. TICK. But like i said be4 im an amateur at best and my sample size is miniscule compared with what the big dogs have.

Did have OP almost the whole of the year

Ran a 14.7 in the state screening as well was sick at draft camp so did beep test again so draft camp results arent as good as they could be.

could a smokey to rise up to even as high as 5

 

[Muji]

LukeHodge15 most people agree Hansen > McKenzie I think your a rare occasion but you've got good stuff happening here.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

LukeHodge15 most people agree Hansen > McKenzie I think your a rare occasion

After his thoughts on Xavier Ellis last year, I think he might be biased against Gippsland Power players

 

[[ToTTi]]

i hope McKenzie slips to 17........!!

 

[LukeHodge15]

After his thoughts on Xavier Ellis last year, I think he might be biased against Gippsland Power players

LOL. I'll pay that

Ellis is a gun whatta u talking about

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

LOL. I'll pay that

Ellis is a gun whatta u talking about

I'll agree - He is a gun...

Just not as much of a gun as his teammates, Thomas and Pendlebury

 

[big bomber]

LH i am very interseted as to weather you will be doing a profile of scott gumbleton as he is a distinct possibility at pick 2. PS your other profiles are very good

 

[sinepari]

There are 15 million profiles on Gumby, just look.

 

[sydney eagle]

i hope McKenzie slips to 17........!!

I think that that is unlikely. He won't go lower than 16 and probably well before that in my opinion!

 

[Bombers41]

Hansen supposed bad kicking skills have got me a little bit worried would still like to pick get him come draft day but if we went for Gumby instead I wouldnt be dissapointed.

Anyone that actuallly watches/knows what there talking about think that Hansen's kicking ??? could see Gumby as a better player (want best available player not postion) dont need another Mark Bolton!! The thought of it just scares me. Cant afford to waste another top pick.

 

[Deledio2Conca]

Does anyone think McKenzie could go to the Pies with one of their top 10 picks? While Collingwood's Key Backman are not neccessarily old, except for Wakelin, I can't really see any coming through the ranks, he would be a great pick up for you guys and we won't be around for your second round pick!

 

[Jeffers]

i hope McKenzie slips to 17........!!

If he slips to 15, the Swans will get him.

 

[burner1]

Two questions,
Why didnt jetta blistering pace and agility show up at draft camp?
And have you had time to write a full profile on josh kennedy yet?

 

[Lynch drops a mark]

Two questions,
Why didnt jetta blistering pace and agility show up at draft camp?
And have you had time to write a full profile on josh kennedy yet?

2 schools of thought

1. his pace is highly overrated

2. on field pace is a completely different thing to a basketball court (Luke Ball was faster over 20m than Chris Judd (state Screening) at draft camp)

 

[Deledio2Conca]

He was injured as well.

 

[Wollongong Represent]

There's no way McKenzie will make it past the Swans at 15.

 

[thenextbigthing1999]

i think collingwood will go for a versatile player at 10 maybe a mackenzie or a reid as they are 2 of the most versatile i think and i also think they will take a quick mid at pick 8

 

[Upgrayedd]

Two questions,
Why didnt jetta blistering pace and agility show up at draft camp?

he was fairly ill and didnt even do half the tests