2011 Drafting, Trading, List Management Thread

[yakka man]

Please help me out who's still out of contract??

Crowley, Bollenhagen, VB, Grover and Walters but I heard the last two have already been offered contracts and Crowley is required????

Pearce on the rookie list is also out of contract. With our success ratio out of the rookie draft I would consider delisting him and trying our luck.

 

[Nickos66]

Chris, you must be absolutely stoked with our 1st 3 picks. What's your thoughts on our draft strategy at this point in time?

 

[Chris25]

Very, very happy.

I don't care what people say, the top 30 is strong. The overall depth might not be as strong as other years, but there will be some very tempting players available late. I'll have a proper look later on this afternoon.

 

[Alfonz]

Don't really know where this belongs, but I would look to see if we can get Dempster in the PSD. Saints have salary cap problems and he is out of contract. We might be able to give him a better offer, without breaking the bank. He will be 28 before the start of next season, so I doubt the rebuilding clubs below us would be interested. Can play a very handy shutdown role in defence/midfield, and I reckon Lyon would love the way he goes about it.

 

[free at last]

Very, very happy.

I don't care what people say, the top 30 is strong. The overall depth might not be as strong as other years, but there will be some very tempting players available late. I'll have a proper look later on this afternoon.

Bondy must be thinking the same too.
Chris would you go best available with picks 16 & 20?

 

[Dudley Leopard]

Can one of you punters tell me if Nick Lower is already promoted to the main list?

cheers

 

[Lach72]

He can't be officially until the draft

 

[Chris25]

Assuming Pavlich is moved onto the veterans list, we have 6 vacancies on our senior list. And three rookies we have to make decisions on. Obviously Lower will be elevated, but what about Sibosado and Pearce?

Personally I would delist them both. Sibosado just doesn't deserve a spot on a senior list, and I really doubt we're going to get anything else out of Pearce. He is a classic depth player at absolute best, and I'd much rather to try my luck on someone new - especially as there are better mature aged players out there.

 

[Dudley Leopard]

Assuming Pavlich is moved onto the veterans list, we have 6 vacancies on our senior list. And three rookies we have to make decisions on. Obviously Lower will be elevated, but what about Sibosado and Pearce?

Personally I would delist them both. Sibosado just doesn't deserve a spot on a senior list, and I really doubt we're going to get anything else out of Pearce. He is a classic depth player at absolute best, and I'd much rather to try my luck on someone new - especially as there are better mature aged players out there.

Don't forget that we may still delist Crowley and/or Bollenhagen. Personally I would shed them before Clancee and Casey.

 

[Clay Davis]

I'd have shed Sibosado six weeks ago.

 

[Nickos66]

I'd be inclined to give Bolly 1 more year, he's only been here for the draftee contract period of 2 years and in that time he's debuted in his 1st year and kicked goals, he went backwards this year but who didn't. See if Lyon can bring his best out of hi mbefore discarding him so quickly. Likewise with Crowley, the worst case scenario being we can replenish from the superdraft next year if these guys don't turn out.

 

[Chris25]

Bollenhagen is at least a chance of becoming something. Clancee is nothing but a name and a $5 haircut. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him on the rookie list, but we can't. So the choice has been made as far as I'm concerned.

Sibosado has had 3 years to get fit. And it's yet to happen.

 

[free at last]

Bollenhagen is at least a chance of becoming something. Clancee is nothing but a name and a $5 haircut. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him on the rookie list, but we can't. So the choice has been made as far as I'm concerned.

Sibosado has had 3 years to get fit. And it's yet to happen.[/

Has Hayden busher nominated for the ND?

I read a really positive article about busher.
His coach commented that he is really professional about the way busher goes about his Footy & getting his body right.
Sounds very dedicated.

 

[Palmervich]

Missing out on Clarke may just save Sibbo. I wouldn't mind seeing what Lyon can do with him. If he isn't training his arse off in the off season/pre season then get rid of him.

 

[george2]

In regards to our first 3 picks in the draft, i would be stoked if with our first 2 picks we got fraser mciness and shane kersten, if one of them wasn't available then Jackson Paine. with our third pick i would go midfielder maybe someone like Nelson will slide a bit or even Devon Smith??? ahhh don't you just love this time of the year nothing else to do but dream about getting every player n the draft you possibly can.
What are your thoughts on my predictions/ suggestions chris?

 

[DOCKERZ]

I'd give Sibo a 1 yr contract, make or break under Lyon.

Clancee, I wouldn't be offering a Primary List spot to him, considering I don't think there would be much interest from other clubs.
We could re-rookie him tho, simply as back-up for injuries, however there are probably other options in State leagues that may have more upside, eg. Silvagni/Barlow/Mz.

 

[Undertaker]

Missing out on Clarke may just save Sibbo. I wouldn't mind seeing what Lyon can do with him. If he isn't training his arse off in the off season/pre season then get rid of him.

He's probably up at Lombardina getting stuck into the turtle meat right now,

 

[Palmervich]

He's probably up at Lombardina getting stuck into the turtle meat right now,

Turtle meat is pretty fatty, hopefully goanna or roo.

 

[Dudley Leopard]

Chris25 - whatever happened to James Craig - that promising kpp drafted by the Crows a couple of years back?

I ask because there is talk of him being delisted. Also does Jimmi Savage still play in SA?

 

[Chris25]

This was Adelaide's review of Craig's year...

We finally got him on the paddock in the latter part of the year. He had a really tough run with that hamstring injury, but our medicos and fitness guys have said James' character was unbelievable throughout. He's held his head really high to get himself to a point where he's up and playing, so at least that's given us an opportunity to assess him. We'd like to think with all things being equal that he fits a need we've got at the moment in terms of the ruck and talls because we've lost a few.

Injuries have held him back, and he hasn't really been developed into a full time KPP. Still plays as that undersized ruckman, part time KPP.

And Savage did return to Norwood from GWS earlier this year. Has been playing with the U18s but hasn't really set the world on fire. Bit disappointing considering he showed promising signs in the NAB Cup.

 

[Nickos66]

Didn't Adelaide delist another highly touted KPP recently? One that you may or may not have been talking up 12 months ago? Can't remember his name but I was surprised to see it in their list of delistees.

 

[Chris25]

Jake von Bertouch.

He spent the season playing in the SANFL reserves, and was never really settled into the one position. Adelaide haven't really shown a lot of patience lately, which I don't understand because they mentioned how he would take time when they drafted him. Maybe he didn't make the required step up in terms of training, but to dump a KPP after one season is never a good decision in my book.

 

[Nickos66]

It's strange to see this happen in recent times ie. Houghton, realistically they wouldn't have expected a senior berth from them but something must've really been telling for these guys not to get longer than their initial drafting contract.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Jesus, it's a good thing they had so much depth with their talls, or they'd be even further up the creek. Then again, that's probably why half of them have done a runner.

 

[new breed]

Callum Wilson has been delisted by WCE , being a Fremantle junior , Wilson might be of interest as a rookie at Freo . Wilson lacked opportunities but still young and is a strong / long kicking forward !