2012 draft

[NZ_Tiger]

#9 Oliver Wines
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Nathan Hrovat
#50 Tom Lee
#68 Kyle Martin

Hope Hrovat is till there for us. Same size as Kennedy but without the elite pace, better ball user and player though. Could be the next Foley.

 

[wart101]

I don't know what any of the 2012 draftees are like.

 

[THE_GUN]

Starting to get a little concerned with the amount of ''average/low profile/fringe players'' we are being linked too to be perfectly honest.
Whilst untill this year so far our drafting has been good and our targeted 1-2 players from other clubs have worked out pretty well,Im just a little worried we are going over board and and hardwick and co are feeling pressure to perform next year and recruiting depth players.

have we abandoned our rebuild

 

[Tigez 4 Life]

Starting to get a little concerned with the amount of ''average/low profile/fringe players'' we are being linked too to be perfectly honest.
Whilst untill this year so far our drafting has been good and our targeted 1-2 players from other clubs have worked out pretty well,Im just a little worried we are going over board and and hardwick and co are feeling pressure to perform next year and recruiting depth players.

have we abandoned our rebuild

our problem is we have just about no depth whatsoever so IMO they're trying to speed up the development of our list

 

[Riskingheadandshin]

Starting to get a little concerned with the amount of ''average/low profile/fringe players'' we are being linked too to be perfectly honest.
Whilst untill this year so far our drafting has been good and our targeted 1-2 players from other clubs have worked out pretty well,Im just a little worried we are going over board and and hardwick and co are feeling pressure to perform next year and recruiting depth players.

have we abandoned our rebuild

I think we got found out and exposed all over the park (forward/Vickery middle/foley back/grimes etc) when these guys and more got injured. Thank God Maric held up in the ruck. Our best 22-25 are good, after that it falls away massively. Some of our youngsters are not up to it yet so all blokes being chased are all targeted for specific roles. Getting Chaplin fills a big hole, the others are to fill a spot Knights/lead up half forward, Thomas/inside mid.
Back the club in I reckon Gun, if our youngsters develop than they will earn their spot in the 22. If not, these guys come fairly cheap and give us some service.

 

[Magic17]

Starting to get a little concerned with the amount of ''average/low profile/fringe players'' we are being linked too to be perfectly honest.
Whilst untill this year so far our drafting has been good and our targeted 1-2 players from other clubs have worked out pretty well,Im just a little worried we are going over board and and hardwick and co are feeling pressure to perform next year and recruiting depth players.

have we abandoned our rebuild

Think you're paying to much respect to media and forum speculation.

 

[Tigez 4 Life]

Starting to get a little concerned with the amount of ''average/low profile/fringe players'' we are being linked too to be perfectly honest.
Whilst untill this year so far our drafting has been good and our targeted 1-2 players from other clubs have worked out pretty well,Im just a little worried we are going over board and and hardwick and co are feeling pressure to perform next year and recruiting depth players.

have we abandoned our rebuild

take what you hear on the forums and media with a grain of salt, it's 90% speculation and 10% fact until trade week where the truth comes out

 

[MightyTiger]

perfect draft would be:
#9 Oliver Wines
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Liam McBean (see him as a poor man Griff sort of like a Keeffe from Magpies)
#50 Jacob Ballard

Don't reckon we'd use any more picks with the projected trades and free agents

First 3 picks will be used on midfielders.

 

[bananatigz]

Menzel only needs a reco on his PCL not his ACL, same thing as push-up has had done, 8-12 weeks
If he slides to #29 would you want him?

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Menzel only needs a reco on his PCL not his ACL, same thing as push-up has had done, 8-12 weeks
If he slides to #29 would you want him?

yes I would

 

[Tigerbob]

Menzel only needs a reco on his PCL not his ACL, same thing as push-up has had done, 8-12 weeks
If he slides to #29 would you want him?

Hmmmm.

He won't but yes, in that case I think I would now. It's a damn risk, his brother shows how it can backfire but gee what a talent. You'd be getting a top 5 talent at Pick 29. Can you turn it down?

 

[_DBF_]

Menzel only needs a reco on his PCL not his ACL, same thing as push-up has had done, 8-12 weeks
If he slides to #29 would you want him?

yes.

 

[Infamy]

Menzel only needs a reco on his PCL not his ACL, same thing as push-up has had done, 8-12 weeks
If he slides to #29 would you want him?

Given we also have Pick 31 (hopefully we still have it after trade week) I'd say yes, he'd be in the Top 10 of the draft if not for injury so I think we can take the punt.

 

[Damo80]

Strikes me as the sort of guy you might take, not expecting to get 250 games from him due to recurring knee issues, but you may well get 150 really high quality games. Worth the punt at 29, but reckon someone will pull the trigger earlier than that.

 

[tigs2010]

Would take him at 29 without blinking. Just read his knee issues are nothing like his brothers. Both have been unlucky impact injuries as opposed to his brother whose knees just gave way.

 

[Riskingheadandshin]

Would take him at 29 without blinking. Just read his knee issues are nothing like his brothers. Both have been unlucky impact injuries as opposed to his brother whose knees just gave way.

This is why we would be extremely lucky to get him at #29. Most saying top 5 talent and with this last knee injury not as serious clubs will go for him.

 

[Vitalogy]

Why aren't we giving players like this rookie spots?

His only 24. He booted 157 goals in 2010 and 130 last year and enters tomorrow’s grand final with 160 this season and in sight of the record for the most goals in a BFL season. I don't care what league you are in booting 160 goals is unbelievable and the Bendigo league, is a pretty high standard of football.
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/348847/bags-of-goals-all-in-a-weeks-work-for-grant/?cs=79

 

[Damo80]

Why aren't we giving players like this rookie spots?

His only 24. He booted 157 goals in 2010 and 130 last year and enters tomorrow’s grand final with 160 this season and in sight of the record for the most goals in a BFL season. I don't care what league you are in booting 160 goals is unbelievable and the Bendigo league, is a pretty high standard of football.
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/348847/bags-of-goals-all-in-a-weeks-work-for-grant/?cs=79

I have heard that he's knocked back a rookie spot before. Only interested in going onto a main list because he is running a farm and making a considerable amount more than the rookie wage... or something along those lines. While, if this is true, I can appreciate where he's coming from, I'd rather target someone who would kill for a chance at AFL, rather than someone who would knock back a rookie list spot in preference to continuing farming and making some $ on the side playing in the BFL.

Edit: he even says in the article he is not interested in playing AFL, and if he was he'd be playing in the VFL still. Takes more than talent alone to make it in the AFL... if he's really that disinterested in an AFL career, I doubt he's going to have the drive and motivation required.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Hope Hrovat is till there for us. Same size as Kennedy but without the elite pace, better ball user and player though. Could be the next Foley.

Foley has elite pace.

 

[MR]

Wow! Just watching Jetta, it really shows how important a player like him is. However, watching Sydney, it also shows how much more important inside midfielders are because they are tearing Collingwood a new one. Just shows how much more important a player like Vlastuin/Wines is than Garlett. Wouldn't be disappointed either way! Haha.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

Foley has elite pace.

I always thought Foley was quick off the mark but not that much top end? I think Hrovat could train to get that quick acceleration and get clear of a stoppage.

 

[Tigez 4 Life]

I always thought Foley was quick off the mark but not that much top end? I think Hrovat could train to get that quick acceleration and get clear of a stoppage.

No, Foley is pretty quick going at full pace.

 

[Tigerbob]

Wow! Just watching Jetta, it really shows how important a player like him is. However, watching Sydney, it also shows how much more important inside midfielders are because they are tearing Collingwood a new one. Just shows how much more important a player like Vlastuin/Wines is than Garlett. Wouldn't be disappointed either way! Haha.

Sydney have always been a great inside team. Amazing what a guy like Jetta does to them. Makes them cutting edge. Gives them some bite. Makes opposition more worried.

Garlett is what we need.

 

[MR]

Sydney have always been a great inside team. Amazing what a guy like Jetta does to them. Makes them cutting edge. Gives them some bite. Makes opposition more worried.

Garlett is what we need.

Sydney won because of their inside skill. Not because of Jetta. We are nowhere near Sydney's proficiency on the inside hence we need to increase our stocks. Garlett would make a big improvement on the club but is definitely not what we need. We need a dead-set inside midfielder or two.

I'm sorry, I was sitting on the edge before but this game has completely convinced me. We should definitely not target outside players with our first pick.

 

[Tigerbob]

Sydney won because of their inside skill. Not because of Jetta. We are nowhere near Sydney's proficiency on the inside hence we need to increase our stocks. Garlett would make a big improvement on the club but is definitely not what we need. We need a dead-set inside midfielder or two.

I'm sorry, I was sitting on the edge before but this game has completely convinced me. We should definitely not target outside players with our first pick.

Well can you get classy outside players later in the draft or inside onballers?

You pick the better player early. Not a type. If you want inside onballers you can get them later at Pick 29 and 31. Won't be many Jetta's around then. But Boltons or Kennedy's a plenty.