Mega Thread 2012 List Management: Part II

[Carbine Chaos]

needs more beef for mine.
Hooker is contracted, you'd have to come up with something better to pry him loose.
Stevens + 38 is alot closer to the mark, but i feel like we'd want an established talent, or conversely a draft pick in the 20's

This is all dependent on whether Brown leaves.

If he did, I'd be happy to give up Stevens and 38 for Hooker.

 

[Zach Package]

This is all dependent on whether Brown leaves.

If he did, I'd be happy to give up Stevens and 38 for Hooker.

Indeed it is, have heard that saints have offered their goddard compo and been knocked back. If that deal did go through would you still go after hooker, and would that compo pick be on the table?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Indeed it is, have heard that saints have offered their goddard compo and been knocked back. If that deal did go through would you still go after hooker, and would that compo pick be on the table?

If the compo pick was Pick 13? I doubt we'd entertain the idea of on-selling that for Hooker. Would probably try to stick to the Stevens and 38 offer.

 

[Zach Package]

If the compo pick was Pick 13? I doubt we'd entertain the idea of on-selling that for Hooker. Would probably try to stick to the Stevens and 38 offer.

Yeah, thought so. Hooker and 32 maybe? just spitballing here because all indications are the the eagles want to keep Brown anyway.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Yeah, thought so. Hooker and 32 maybe? just spitballing here because all indications are the the eagles want to keep Brown anyway.

I don't think 13 would be available if we got it. We're generally a fair club to trade with so if push came to shove with Brown I'm sure we'd compensate you fairly for Hooker, especially given he is contracted.

 

[eaglespremiers]

13 would be overs for Hooker (but certainly is overs for Brown as well).
Though St Kilda are desperate I'm not sure they are so desperate to give us this.
However, Cripps + 24 is a real possibility (unless they spend it on one GC ruckman).
I'm sure 24 + Stevens would certainly be enough to get Hooker if Essendon were interested in trading him.
Other West Coast fans will howl me down but to get Cripps + Hooker for Stevens + Brown is pretty good.
Just quietly I rate Hooker significantly ahead of Brown so I think we'd come out trumps.
Disappointing that our 1st active pick would be late 30s but happy that we managed to move players on who wanted to move without destroying our depth and recruiting someone who can legitimately replace Glass in a year or two and is more versatile than Brown.

 

[BrunoV]

I wonder whether we should be looking at Lucas Cook.

Sounds like he has heard the wake up call.

I like that, into his third pre-season, he is quite close to being ready to provide immediate depth for round 1 next year.

 

[BrunoV]

13 would be overs for Hooker (but certainly is overs for Brown as well).
Though St Kilda are desperate I'm not sure they are so desperate to give us this.
However, Cripps + 24 is a real possibility (unless they spend it on one GC ruckman).
I'm sure 24 + Stevens would certainly be enough to get Hooker if Essendon were interested in trading him.
Other West Coast fans will howl me down but to get Cripps + Hooker for Stevens + Brown is pretty good.
Just quietly I rate Hooker significantly ahead of Brown so I think we'd come out trumps.
Disappointing that our 1st active pick would be late 30s but happy that we managed to move players on who wanted to move without destroying our depth and recruiting someone who can legitimately replace Glass in a year or two and is more versatile than Brown/

Not that I support the idea but Stevens + 24 and you are probably guaranteed Hooker even if we aren't looking to trade him.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Not that I support the idea but Stevens + 24 and you are probably guaranteed Hooker even if we aren't looking to trade him.

I have a feeling that Hooker's value may be as low as we'll see it for a while.
So such a trade would benefit us now.
His 2nd half of the year is an anomaly and playing 2nd tall back to someone like Mackenzie will really see him shine.
I think he'd like the idea of taking on resting ruckman rather than power forwards.
My thinking is that he is 24 in two days.
As such I believe his upside in the next couple of years will be immense.

 

[Kong]

An opposition supporter that recognises Hooker's strengths.

Well, I never!

 

[Zach Package]

eaglespremiers

can you please repeat this to every essendon poster out there, it'll just make everything so much easier

 

[hollywood23]

13 would be overs for Hooker (but certainly is overs for Brown as well).
Though St Kilda are desperate I'm not sure they are so desperate to give us this.
However, Cripps + 24 is a real possibility (unless they spend it on one GC ruckman).
I'm sure 24 + Stevens would certainly be enough to get Hooker if Essendon were interested in trading him.
Other West Coast fans will howl me down but to get Cripps + Hooker for Stevens + Brown is pretty good.
Just quietly I rate Hooker significantly ahead of Brown so I think we'd come out trumps.
Disappointing that our 1st active pick would be late 30s but happy that we managed to move players on who wanted to move without destroying our depth and recruiting someone who can legitimately replace Glass in a year or two and is more versatile than Brown.

pick 24 and Stevens for Hooker would probably be the perfect trade for all parties I would have thought.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I know it seems to be almost accepted amongst many supporters, but to be honest, I’d be really surprised if either Hooker or Pears were traded.

1. Both are contracted.
2. I think both are actually reasonably highly rated by our coaches, form and injury aside.
3. Our so called “KPP depth” is a myth – we have Pears and Hooker, plus Carlisle and Hurley. Everyone else is either too young, consistently injured, not actually KPP size, or a ruckman.
4. I think the only thing that has ever come close to actually being “official” re trading either of these was Hooker for Caddy last year. Every other “trade” we hear about re these guys is either some attention seeking journo or a rumour off social media.

I expect the noise to continue, but I’ll be pretty surprised and disappointed if anything actually ends up coming of it. If anything happens, I think it'll be Gumby or nobody. He's uncontracted and apparently has been offered one year, which doesn't bode well for the coaches' faith in him.

 

[BrunoV]

WCE supporters are the right ones to ask given that Hooker and Carlisle put on a display or aerial dominance against them earlier this year.

 

[Kong]

Hooker also dominated Drew "The Decoy" Petrie in Round 1, but that didn't do anything for Norf supporters.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Hooker also dominated Drew "The Decoy" Petrie in Round 1, but that didn't do anything for Norf supporters.

And Fletcher then dominated him in our second match, despite never having played on an opponent in the previous 20 years.

 

[eaglespremiers]

1. Both are contracted.
2. I think both are actually reasonably highly rated by our coaches, form and injury aside.
3. Our so called “KPP depth” is a myth – we have Pears and Hooker, plus Carlisle and Hurley. Everyone else is either too young, consistently injured, not actually KPP size, or a ruckman.
4. I think the only thing that has ever come close to actually being “official” re trading either of these was Hooker for Caddy last year. Every other “trade” we hear about re these guys is either some attention seeking journo or a rumour off social media.

1. That's why we pay overs.
2. Yes, they are. But I think Carlisle and Hurley are rated higher by your coaching staff (assuming Hurley plays back).
3. Fair enough, still too many KPDs though. Plus Fletcher in whatever role he fits.
4. Consider this an "official" offer. I'm sure St Kilda would go for Cripps + 24, so let's say I tangibly have 24 right now. I'm sick of all this talk on these forums, let's do something official for once.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Terry Wallace on Trade Week Radio doesn't reckon Howlett is a walk up start .

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

1. That's why we pay overs.
2. Yes, they are. But I think Carlisle and Hurley are rated higher by your coaching staff (assuming Hurley plays back).
3. Fair enough, still too many KPDs though. Plus Fletcher in whatever role he fits.
4. Consider this an "official" offer. I'm sure St Kilda would go for Cripps + 24, so let's say I tangibly have 24 right now. I'm sick of all this talk on these forums, let's do something official for once.

Oh you're Craig Vozzo? Why didn't you say so earlier? I'm Adrian Dodoro.

Hooker and Pears are both required and contracted.

If, and only if, Cale wants to return home, then I would say that might be fair compensation.

However if not, the only way we would consider to nudge him in your direction is if you gave us Gaff.

 

[Zach Package]

Terry Wallace on Trade Week Radio doesn't reckon Howlett is a walk up start .

given him a fair dressing down on facebook for that one

 

[Bunk Moreland]

1. That's why we pay overs.
2. Yes, they are. But I think Carlisle and Hurley are rated higher by your coaching staff (assuming Hurley plays back).
3. Fair enough, still too many KPDs though. Plus Fletcher in whatever role he fits.
4. Consider this an "official" offer. I'm sure St Kilda would go for Cripps + 24, so let's say I tangibly have 24 right now. I'm sick of all this talk on these forums, let's do something official for once.

There’s a lot of talk amongst supporters about Hurley going back, I’m not really sure where it’s coming from. I guess because of Daniher. Still think he’s required forward at the moment.

Realistically, for round 1 2013, that leaves Hooker and Carlisle. Pears remains a very dicey proposition (his preseason will tell us a lot in terms of form, confidence and fitness). Fletcher can play on a key forward if required, but it’s definitely not where we get best value from him.

We’re one injury away from being in a bit of strife, even without trading anyone. And if there’s one thing we’re good at, it’s injuries.

I wouldn’t discount it if there was something out there that we were really chasing hard (like Caddy last year), but I don’t think Stevens etc (or late draft picks) fits that bill.

 

[BrunoV]

Hird said it after the Collingwood match.

 

[Kong]

"yeah look i think ben howlett might be in trouble with the acquisition of brendon goddard."

Terry Wallace on Trade Week Radio doesn't reckon Howlett is a walk up start .

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Hird said it after the Collingwood match.

Yep fair enough, forgot about that.

 

[Zach Package]

They read out my facebook post on TWR, unfortunately I didn't include lots of swares and digs at Terry Wallet and Damian 'Chasing Ambulances' Barrett.